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Osem 07-06-2017 13:53

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35902037)
According to my red top she was seen out on the street using her mobile 20 minutes after the interview would have started. Illness my arse.

Labour and the 'truth' have always been odd bedfellows.

Julian 07-06-2017 14:04

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35902037)
According to my red top she was seen out on the street using her mobile 20 minutes after the interview would have started. Illness my arse.

https://order-order.com/2017/06/06/d...s-womans-hour/

Lying old slapper.

Osem 07-06-2017 14:05

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35902037)
According to my red top she was seen out on the street using her mobile 20 minutes after the interview would have started. Illness my arse.

Labour and the 'truth' have always been odd bedfellows and we all know that all they're doing is planning to add £billions more to those they've already burdened us all with. Spend now pay later should be their party motto.

Ramrod 07-06-2017 15:19

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35902037)
According to my red top she was seen out on the street using her mobile 20 minutes after the interview would have started. Illness my arse.

Yep. There was a photo on twitter of her in a tube station not looking ill at all :D

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edit: That's the one :D
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35902043)


Damien 07-06-2017 15:32

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Predictions? I'm gonna go with 80-90 seat Tory Majority

Mick 07-06-2017 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35902044)
Labour and the 'truth' have always been odd bedfellows and we all know that all they're doing is planning to add £billions more to those they've already burdened us all with. Spend now pay later should be their party motto.

Exactly and to add to this, he and some of his gang, Mcdonnell and Abbott, has stood/supported/wished British defeat, on platforms with Terrorist organisations and not JUST ONE. Anyone who can support him, based off him and his cohorts history and fairly recent activity, is beyond contempt IMO.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35902054)
Predictions? I'm gonna go with 80-90 seat Tory Majority

I am going to go out on a limb and say, I think we are in Hung Parliament territory.

I think Exit polls will say the same tomorrow around 10pm.

I hope I am really wrong, but I got Brexit right and Donald Trump's election right, despite a lot saying Clinton had it bagged.

Sadly, it would seem a lot of people may have been bought, they are following the carrots and are leaning towards Labour.

They will be heavily disappointed and everyone else will be when things will start costing more because of tax increases.

Labour back in power will be a National Tragedy.

The way their activists speak of their manifesto, is like it's a 'New Testament.'

When you start to peel off the label to their manifesto book, it really reads, "How to screw the many, not just the few.' :rolleyes:

ianch99 07-06-2017 16:10

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I was thinking a majority of 100 but since, in the GE campaign, Jeremy has done far better than expected and TM has done far worse than expected, I am predicting a Tory lead of 27 seats.

denphone 07-06-2017 16:19

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35902054)
Predictions? I'm gonna go with 80-90 seat Tory Majority

Are you the bookie for Thursday night.:D

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35902055)
I am going to go out on a limb and say, I think we are in Hung Parliament territory.

I think Exit polls will say the same tomorrow around 10pm.

I hope I am really wrong, but I got Brexit right and Donald Trump's election right, despite a lot saying Clinton had it bagged.

Sadly, it would seem a lot of people may have been bought, they are following the carrots and are leaning towards Labour.

They will be heavily disappointed and everyone else will be when things will start costing more because of tax increases.

Labour back in power will be a National Tragedy.

The way their activists speak of their manifesto, is like it's a 'New Testament.'

When you start to peel off the label to their manifesto book, it really reads, "How to screw the many, not just the few.' :rolleyes:

Good grief a hung parliament prediction by the man who rightly predicted the American election result.;):D

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35902058)
I was thinking a majority of 100 but since, in the GE campaign, Jeremy has done far better than expected and TM has done far worse than expected, I am predicting a Tory lead of 27 seats.

Not a lover of Jeremy Corbyn full stop but anybody who thinks Theresa May has had nothing but a very poor election campaign is obviously looking through rose tinted glasses.

Prediction

Tory Majority of 65

Ramrod 07-06-2017 16:25

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I've programmed the car satnav for Beachy head on Friday afternoon if the worst comes to the worst :(

mrmistoffelees 07-06-2017 16:26

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35902055)
Exactly and to add to this, he and some of his gang, Mcdonnell and Abbott, has stood/supported/wished British defeat, on platforms with Terrorist organisations and not JUST ONE. Anyone who can support him, based off him and his cohorts history and fairly recent activity, is beyond contempt IMO.

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I am going to go out on a limb and say, I think we are in Hung Parliament territory.

I think Exit polls will say the same tomorrow around 10pm.

<snip>

Not often we agree, but I think you're right, I sincerely hope we're both wrong however. A hung parliament would be disastrous for this country

Damien 07-06-2017 16:37

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35902055)
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I am going to go out on a limb and say, I think we are in Hung Parliament territory.

I think Exit polls will say the same tomorrow around 10pm.

I hope I am really wrong, but I got Brexit right and Donald Trump's election right, despite a lot saying Clinton had it bagged.

Definitely, 100%, wrong I categorically say not gonna happen. :D

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It does come down to if YouGov are right though. For this to happen there was to be a massive increase in young people voting and the other demographics being correct. I don't see it. If anything I think Labour will pile up votes in places like Manchester and London but the Tories will pick up marginal after marginal anywhere else.

dilli-theclaw 07-06-2017 16:49

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After much research I've finally managed to make my mind up :)

TheDaddy 07-06-2017 18:10

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35902054)
Predictions? I'm gonna go with 80-90 seat Tory Majority

I think they'll win but not by as much as that

Sirius 07-06-2017 18:29

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I think this is one of the worst campaign's the Tory's have ever presented. i do not think May wants to win this election to be honest.

Mick 07-06-2017 18:35

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35902078)
I think this is one of the worst campaign's the Tory's have ever presented. i do not think May wants to win this election to be honest.

A few people have said that to me.

I wish we could have had Ruth Davidson.

GrimUpNorth 07-06-2017 19:01

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So who's going to be the first party leader to resign on Friday?

Cheers

Dave

Paul 07-06-2017 19:06

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35902072)
I think they'll win but not by as much as that

Ditto, I think they will pretty much remain as they are now, just a small majority.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35902078)
I think this is one of the worst campaign's the Tory's have ever presented. i do not think May wants to win this election to be honest.

As I said the other week, their manifesto read like they wanted to lose (a suicide note).

Damien 07-06-2017 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35902078)
I think this is one of the worst campaign's the Tory's have ever presented. i do not think May wants to win this election to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35902083)
A few people have said that to me.

I wish we could have had Ruth Davidson.

Worth waiting to see the actual results. The 2015 Conservative campaign was considered lacklustre but is now viewed as one of the great campaigns, so focused were they on their message and their strategy behind the scenes. It could be they know something we don't and will win a landslide with their focus on May and Brexit.

I don't think that's what is actually happening though. I think they've just run a rubbish campaign, their strong and stable slogan was undermined by the u-turns, the social care policy seemed to have sparked something and lost them a lot of Labour voters, and now they've flipped from putting May front and centre of the campaign to making it a more conventionally Tory campaign.

But I don't think it will matter. I think she'll win comfortably.

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35902085)
So who's going to be the first party leader to resign on Friday?

Cheers

Dave

Farron

Osem 07-06-2017 19:46

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Exactly how 'ill' is Abbott do we reckon?
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Diane Abbott has apparently been duped by the same email prankster who caught out Bank of England Governor Mark Carney and Barclays CEO Jes Staley. The prankster, in character as Seamus Milne, elicited concern from Diane about her role in future press coverage: “What is the situation about election night press?”
https://order-order.com/2017/06/06/d...ail-prankster/

Labour - the party of honesty... :rofl:

1andrew1 07-06-2017 20:37

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35902089)
Farron

Interesting prediction.

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35902087)
Ditto, I think they will pretty much remain as they are now, just a small majority.

As I said the other week, their manifesto read like they wanted to lose (a suicide note).

Ha ha. Anything the Conservatives can do, Labour can do better. They wrote a suicide note but nailed it by sealing it with a big kiss from Diane Abbott!

Ramrod 07-06-2017 21:02

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If Corbyn wins, the markets will be in full-scale panic
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Once global investors look at the implications of that, they won’t like it at all. Labour’s ‘Robin Hood’ tax will devastate financial services, one of our largest exporters and employers. It will do far more damage than leaving the EU. After all, why pay a tax on trading shares in London when you can simply side-step it by trading them elsewhere? Higher corporation taxes, and controls on executive pay, will drive companies out of the country, and probably to a far greater extent than leaving the Single Market. It may not be to everyone’s taste, but for forty years the UK’s key competitive advantage has been that it is a relatively low tax, lightly regulated place to base a company. If that is reversed, businesses won’t stick around. Finally, a massive splurge in public spending will end up being paid for with printed money, largely because all those ‘fully-costed’ tax rises won’t actually turn out to bring in much cash. And that will hit sterling, and share prices.

The historical record suggests far-left governments are terrible for the markets. The minority Labour government led by Harold Wilson from February and October 1974 – the one where Denis Healey famously promised to ‘squeeze the rich until the pips squeak’ – saw a 50 per cent fall in the London market (although, in fairness, all kinds of terrible stuff was happening to the global economy that year). Clement Attlee’s government of 1945 to 1951 might be lionised on the left for its creation of the welfare state, but there was not a lot of wealth creation going on to pay for it all. It presided over a 7.5 per cent fall in share prices, while the Dow Jones index in the US almost doubled in the same period.

Under Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell, what should we expect? In reality, there will be a sudden sharp correction, simply on the shock of the result, followed by a long, painful decline as the competitiveness is drained out of the economy.

Damien 07-06-2017 21:10

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I think what happens after will be interesting. Is there now a new divide in the country? Brexit seems to have settled but there seems to be a great deal of anger and division over issues like inequality and public services. Basically austerity.

It's something I don't think the Conservatives banked on when May called it and whilst they'll almost certainly win, and IMO with a nice majority, I think there will be lingering resentment over those issues and the way the campaign happened. May will win because of Corbyn but I see her becoming unpopular.

And will that mean May has to deal with the Brexit talks whilst contending with a backlash against Austerity? Is so does that impact upon the talks themselves?

1andrew1 07-06-2017 21:17

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35902104)
I think what happens after will be interesting. Is there now a new divide in the country? Brexit seems to have settled but there seems to be a great deal of anger and division over issues like inequality and public services. Basically austerity.

It's something I don't think the Conservatives banked on when May called it and whilst they'll almost certainly win, and IMO with a nice majority, I think there will be lingering resentment over those issues and the way the campaign happened. May will win because of Corbyn but I see her becoming unpopular.

And will that mean May has to deal with the Brexit talks whilst contending with a backlash against Austerity? Is so does that impact upon the talks themselves?

If there was another Labour leader who kept came across as more pro-British (for the army, NHS and Royal Family), kept Corbyn's popular policies (renationalise the utilities, railways and end austerity) and more strongly against immigration then I reckon we'd be seeing a huge Labour landslide. As it is, I see the Conservatives winning by 70 seats especially as the under 25s seem unlikely to start voting as much as the pensioners.

Osem 07-06-2017 21:32

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Too many people vote for what suits their short term interests rather than the long term good of fhe country, That's why our glorious leaders tend towards promising more whilst taxing us less.

Damien 07-06-2017 22:27

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35902106)
Too many people vote for what suits their short term interests rather than the long term good of fhe country, That's why our glorious leaders tend towards promising more whilst taxing us less.

Quite but it still might be that the government have misjudged how willing people are to put up with their own decline of living standards in the name of the long term especially when the burden isn't perceived to be shared and the long term goal rather abstract.

Chris 07-06-2017 22:34

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https://order-order.com/2017/06/07/f...e-lead-tories/

The average of tonight's polls puts the Tories 8 points ahead. Even Yougov has given them a lead of 7.

Gary L 07-06-2017 22:42

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All these predictions are a waste of time in this day and age.

they don't know who he and she are going to be voting tomorrow.
but they will be voting for the party that they feel has done them no wrong. hasn't brought poverty to this country. and isn't seen as nasty.

but what they should know is that people will be voting for a reason.
and that reason is up there.

Theresa doesn't want to win anyway. that's why she called the election.
she isn't strong enough. she's old and weak.

and very wobbly.

1andrew1 07-06-2017 23:08

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UK General Election polls: Tories set for landslide victory over Corbyn's Labour on eve of snap vote

Dave42 07-06-2017 23:31

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2017/06/11.jpg

1andrew1 07-06-2017 23:43

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lol

Paul 08-06-2017 00:03

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I guess that might be funnier if I had any clue who that [man] is.

Dave42 08-06-2017 00:05

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35902126)
I guess that might be funnier if I had any clue who that [man] is.

it Rupert Murdoch

1andrew1 08-06-2017 00:24

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This is the election humour moment!

“You’ll get accountability, with Conservative delivery/Make sure this time you get it right/Vote for Greg Knight”

http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/c...tridge-2084845

TheDaddy 08-06-2017 01:15

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35902126)
I guess that might be funnier if I had any clue who that [man] is.

That man is Theresa May....

The elderly looking puppet master is digger murdoch

Sirius 08-06-2017 05:56

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35902128)
it Rupert Murdoch

Who :)

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35902136)
That man is Theresa May....

The elderly looking puppet master is digger murdoch


Now i see :)

OLD BOY 08-06-2017 08:47

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I don't think anyone will disagree that Jeremy Corbyn has had a good campaign and that Theresa May has suffered following a major wobble on her social care policy.

However, when voters go to the polls, I hope they will consider who to vote for very, very carefully.

Jeremy Corbyn has attracted a lot of people because he is promising the Earth. Unfortunately, the economy is nowhere near strong enough to pay for such a spending splurge. Despite what Labour say about having their plans 'fully costed', just looking at the corporation tax proposal is all you need to know about their flaky understanding of economics. It has been proved already that lower taxes can increase revenue, and this has been proved already, with recent reductions in corporation tax providing a larger tax return, as well as a stimulus for businesses to settle in the UK. That surely shows that if you put up corporation tax, the reverse will happen.

For some reason, nationalisation of the railways and utility companies has suddenly become popular. Why? They were privatised so as to bring more investment into areas of the economy which were stagnating. Since privatisation, that investment has been forthcoming, with new rolling stock for the railways, cleaner trains, services more reliable than before, and so on.

The Labour Party say that they will rule for the many, not the few. However, I wonder if it will be the many or the few who will suffer when Corbyn's grand plan comes crashing to Earth within the first year of a Labour Government?

Labour would be a disaster for us and our economy, which remains in a parlous state. While we continue to have a deficit, our trillions of pounds of debt will continue to grow. Only the Conservatives have a plan to get that deficit down, albeit slower than they would like, due to the backlash against austerity measures. But be in no doubt, austerity will be back with a vengence with another Labour Government.

Those car crash Labour interviews show clearly that the Labour leader and his shadow ministers do not have a clue when it comes to finance. That should be the obvious clue to what to expect from them if you are thinking of voting for them.

Of course, Labour have some very popular policies. But we cannot afford them. That should be obvious to all.

Theresa May's campaign has not been a good one, but she is without doubt the most credible of all the candidates, and her party is the most competent. I know who I want to negotiate Brexit for us. Can you imagine what a pig's ear Jeremy would make of it? :shocked:

mrmistoffelees 08-06-2017 09:06

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35902154)
I don't think anyone will disagree that Jeremy Corbyn has had a good campaign and that Theresa May has suffered following a major wobble on her social care policy.

However, when voters go to the polls, I hope they will consider who to vote for very, very carefully.

Jeremy Corbyn has attracted a lot of people because he is promising the Earth. Unfortunately, the economy is nowhere near strong enough to pay for such a spending splurge. Despite what Labour say about having their plans 'fully costed', just looking at the corporation tax proposal is all you need to know about their flaky understanding of economics. It has been proved already that lower taxes can increase revenue, and this has been proved already, with recent reductions in corporation tax providing a larger tax return, as well as a stimulus for businesses to settle in the UK. That surely shows that if you put up corporation tax, the reverse will happen.

I agree, studies seem to back your statement above

For some reason, nationalisation of the railways and utility companies has suddenly become popular. Why? They were privatised so as to bring more investment into areas of the economy which were stagnating. Since privatisation, that investment has been forthcoming, with new rolling stock for the railways, cleaner trains, services more reliable than before, and so on.

Entirely dependant on the area of the country in which you reside. Certain areas are still running pacers despite promises they would be phased out, I think a few South Western passengers may disagree quite vocally regarding service reliability

The Labour Party say that they will rule for the many, not the few. However, I wonder if it will be the many or the few who will suffer when Corbyn's grand plan comes crashing to Earth within the first year of a Labour Government?

Speculation and conjecture with no supporting evidence.

Labour would be a disaster for us and our economy, which remains in a parlous state. While we continue to have a deficit, our trillions of pounds of debt will continue to grow. Only the Conservatives have a plan to get that deficit down, albeit slower than they would like, due to the backlash against austerity measures. But be in no doubt, austerity will be back with a vengence with another Labour Government.

All parties have a plan, you might not like it but they do. The conservatives also have a habit of changing things on a whim. Austerity hasn't gone away?

Those car crash Labour interviews show clearly that the Labour leader and his shadow ministers do not have a clue when it comes to finance. That should be the obvious clue to what to expect from them if you are thinking of voting for them.

Theresa May hiding from debate, turning up in places such as Guisbrough and not announcing the location until arrival, refusing to answer any question that was not pre submitted for scrutinisation. That should tell you something if you're thinking of voting for them.

Of course, Labour have some very popular policies. But we cannot afford them. That should be obvious to all.

We can, but we would all have an increased cost to burden, it comes down to if you believe personal success or the success of the community is most important and if the extra burden is worth it.

Theresa May's campaign has not been a good one, but she is without doubt the most credible of all the candidates, and her party is the most competent. I know who I want to negotiate Brexit for us. Can you imagine what a pig's ear Jeremy would make of it? :shocked:

Neither May nor Corbyn will negotiate Brexit. Neither May for Corbyn are credible and neither party is competent and there in unfortunately lies the rub.

From a still undecided voter......

figgyburn 08-06-2017 09:15

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Theresa may or may not.After her recent u turns she has disappointed me greatly.A leader has to stick to her beliefs and not fold at the first sign of pressure.Does not fill me with confidence of the forthcoming brexit talks(I'm a brexiteer)

Chris 08-06-2017 09:22

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We now have a new thread with an exit poll. Please continue all election discussion in the new thread.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33704990

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