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We use the main speakers for the upper range but a 100W sub-woofer gives the bass.

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Thanks for that.

There is more Dolby 5.1 content now, due the BBC recording in 4K.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Most people just go for the easiest option.

I'm perfectly content with the TV speakers, even though they annoy me occasionally.

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I can't locate the UHD version of Dynasties on the BBC iPlayer whether I go in via the app or direct from the red button. Can anyone help??

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Hasn't it expired ?

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Do you still need to enable the beta version from the settings menu at the top right, maybe?

Have you successfully watched iPlayer UHD before?

edit: This might help.

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The UHD versions appear to have been removed - only the HD versions remain.

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Thanks for the replies.

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That statement couldn't be any further from the truth!

I don't know how many TVs I've had since my first LCD in 2005 but my LG C8 OLED has the best sound I've heard on a TV (except that Sony OLED with speakers in the stand) I use a decent 5.1 setup with a 500W Monolith plus providing the bass but i'm still amazed on occasion with the sound this TV can produce, it's capable of kicking out a decent simulated 5.1 effect as well as a nice bit of bass, i don't think any flat panel I've owned has produced an acceptable level of bass.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

More UHD programmes coming to Virgin Media's UHD channel. It looks like the schedules will also be beefed up with some Smithsonian programming.

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...-schedule.html

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Aren't most of those Dramas already on Netflix?

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

The Get Down and House Of Cards are, not sure about the others.

The funny thing about many "Netflix" dramas is they often eventually end up on other broadcast channels because they are made by outside production companies (e.g. Orange Is The New Black on Sony Crime Channel). I used to wait until their DVD release and rent them. Amazon shows never seem to come to DVD to my knowledge, I'm not including those that are just Amazon exclusives in the UK, just those they commission themselves.

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Very true, I think Bloodline is on Netflix as well.

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Surprised the beeb haven't had a few FA Cup matches on a 4K UHD trial so far

They seem to have stalled on UHD since the world cup

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That's because I think they got most of the live trial results they needed for now from the World Cup and Wimbledon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/...d-8814c1511b4e

So I guess at the moment they're working out how to implement the improvements identified before they do any more live 4k trials.

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Well they are taking their time then!

Rubbish service really, bin off the licence fee - or split it between the companies that provide the service!

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Or are they waiting to see if UHD really does take off before throwing more money at it?
I think the majority of people aren't that bothered

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You may be correct, is it the next 3D fad?

Are these 'improvements' pushed by TV set manufacturers to sell more expensive tv's?

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More expensive TV's mean more profit for the manufacturers as it won't be long before something else new and jazzy comes along for which they will charge a premium price for..

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A large number of people do not have the money and/or the room and/or the inclination for TVs of 55 inches or even larger, without which I am told UHD makes no noticeable difference

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In our case we have simply not got the room for a 55 inch TV or bigger in our main room.

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And honestly, even if you do, it's not always obvious. I got a 55" Samsung TV last year - one of the non-QLED screens.

A lot of the time, good quality HD and 4K can be roughly the same. Even where you do notice it, you get used to it after a while - kind of like when you go to the cinema and get used to the screen size.

For me it's the combination of 4K and HDR that's really noticeable, rather than just 4K alone.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Don’t forget that decent 4K TVs upscale HD, which improves PQ.

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So the broadcasters may be better spending money on developing good quality HD rather than UHD with all the problems that seems to bring with it

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

There is a difference in making things in 4k and broadcasting in 4k.

So for me the move to 4k production is worth it. However 4k broadcasts and TVs need to settle on a set of standards that are consistent. Without that the end results will vary wildly.

But that's also one of the things the BBC are trying to figure out and the one of the reasons they haven't yet got a permanent 4k schedule.

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Well, if you go into John Lewis, the vast number of UHD TVs for sale may surprise you. Most of the sets displayed in our branch are now UHD. As people need to replace their existing sets for the main room, this really is the choice that there is.

I do think a great many people are interested in UHD and HDR - these will be the most common TV sets in the future. It's not the same as 3D - I could never see that taking off because of the need to wear those ridiculous glasses.

The next big thing will be 8K, and that is unlikely to be as popular because the picture improvement that goes with it is only noticeable on the really massive screens.

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Yes, it is, I enjoyed watching Bloodline.

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As Ben has said, there are advantages in having a good UHD/HDR TV even without UHD material broadcast to it

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There were quite a few people who thought that owning an HD screen was all they needed for HD in its early years, just as some thought owning an LCD slim screen meant they were watching digital TV, when they were watching analogue. Additionally those sets that upscaled to HD did often did a good enough job that their owners were already pleased, many just liked having proper widescreen for the first time as it coincided with them getting digital for the first time.

I know we were perfectly content with Pace/SA/Samsung cable boxes with SD through SCART such was the quality of the job of the upscaling my Sony HD screen did. We did notice the difference when we eventually got a V+HD but there weren't many HD channels, and that box upscaled SD well on all the other channels, as did the Tivo and now the V6. Most of the HD I saw for years was Blu-ray films via my PS3.

My point being many people bought HD capable screens because of they wanted slim screens, or larger screens, or widescreen, because they needed one with a digital tuner for switchover (and not with a HD tuner, only SD digital tuners were on the market). There was a long time where the market had virtually no HD channels, particularly free channels despite the shops being exclusively slim LCD televisions and yet people were still happy with the advances they brought.

Don't get me wrong I love the picture on these UHD store demos, but we don't have room for them, and hearing people saying you don't notice much unless you have a certain size and you have to be a certain distance to get any benefit, we're in no rush. We purposely didn't get a UHD screen when our last HD TV died as we didn't have any UHD equipment/sources, and there was no point buying into a technology with undecided standards i.e. HDR.

I wouldn't be surprised if most people with UHD TVs are quite content with the upscaling of HD, that's likely what most of their entertainment consumption is.

I would like a UHD screen eventually, but it would mainly for gaming.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

I've not been overly impressed with HDR so far if I'm honest in fact I've watched some in HDR on my TV's app and then tried the title in UHD on my Sky Q box and thought the picture better without the HDR.

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What TV do you have? Even with HDR just because a TV supports it doesn't mean it's very good at it!

I've got the Nu8000 from Samsung and it's OK for HDR. Not great but not rubbish. I think you really need a TV that's capable of full local dimming and that can get to 1500 nits or higher to get into great looking HDR.

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Sony XF90.

To be fair Ben its only Netflix and Amazon I've tried HDR content with.

Don't get me wrong the set provides a pretty damn good picture but I'm not blown away with the HDR I've seen so far.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

If you have the latest consoles then they support HDR and on my PS4 Pro it is fantastic.

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If you are not getting a massive difference when HDR is on - then the tv setup is is wrong.
But also some assets themselves will not have the 'wow' factor.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Many people are reporting Netflix HDR is to dark , one example is Ozark.

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ive got a samsung uhd tv and the HDR on amazon prime just looks dull.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Sound like your setup is wrong.

I have a Panasonic tv ad HDR on Amazon Prime and Netflix is amazing.

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Perhaps the Panasonic is a better tv than the Samsung?

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Must be a lot of us wth bad setups then as many have reported the same all over the web.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

judging by the number of people who fixed issues during the World Cup - I would say "yes - a lot of bad setups"

Could be a bad app on some brands. My old Samsing was bad.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

any advice as to how to set it up properly?

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World cup through my virgin tivo wasnt dull at all.

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Despite what Ozsat says there are issues with some of the Netflix HDR content and I've seen Amazon titles reported.

Ozark in HDR is particualry poor and I've tried this on numerous sets both OLED and LED and played along with settings. There are full threads about the darkness in this title.

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I'm not disputing that some titles may look bad - the OP seems to imply the app is bad.

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The beebs coverage of the FA Cup final today will have a limited number of slots available via the iPlayer to watch it in 4K UHD

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It would be interesting to see the viewing figures for the Virgin Media UHD channel. Although it broadcasts only during peak times, when it is on air, everything seems to be very watchable and there are no commercials at all. I've been watching Start Up, The Art of More, Shut Eye and some of the nature programmes on it, and it's very good. It's a shame that there is not more prominence given to the schedules, and made clearer that you don't need a 4K TV to watch it.

This is tonight's schedule.

7.10pm Great Parks of Africa
8.00pm Aerial America
9.00pm House of Cards
9.55pm Masters of Sex
10.50pm Peter Gabriel: Back To Front - Live at the O2
12.30am Paramount Movies Spotlights

Other good series on the channel this week include Legion, Bloodline and Absentia. Try as I might, I cannot find sufficient programmes of similar quality next week on Sky One that I would want to record. If I'm blunt about it, there is absolutely nothing on that channel worth recording at present.apart from Jamestown (which my wife likes, although it's a bit too sugar coated for me) and SEAL Team. I'm assuming that's good but haven't started watching it yet.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

I was slightly surprised when VM launched their Ultra HD channel that they didn't make it available to all their customers. I can understand wanting to have something exclusive to the higher packages, but I thought Box Sets are better in that respect. I'd quite happily watch it downscaled to HD.

I suspect the reason VM don't have LoveNature in 4K is so they can use its content on their own channel, I'm perfectly happy watching LoveNature in SD as it still looks good upscaled.

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Yes, in fact they could extend their programme hours with LoveNature programming earlier in the day. Hopefully they will increase the number of broadcast hours before too long.

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Managed to get into the beebs 4K coverage looking very good so far

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Yep - shame about the lack of 5.1 audio still

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Bar the lack of 5.1 audio that was a perfect UHD broadcast by the beeb on the iPlayer

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Is it not?

I often record BT Sports 4K and watch it down scaled to HD - I think the PQ is better, unfortunately recordings take 3-4 times the disk space

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Already posted this in the Coming Soon thread, but it's just as appropriate here in the 4K thread.

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The slate screen for the hidden BT 4K channel is now showing in the screengrab on DigitalBitRate. It confirms that 532 isn't showing on the EPG yet. Non-4K customers will just have to may do with HD on Channel 100.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

The V6 will downscale 4k channels to HD if needed.

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I probably should have written "non-V6 customers". :D

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Anyone having issues with the EuroSport 4K stream today on the V6 box

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Yes - it is all stuttery

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Cool good to know I'm not the only one ;)

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just checked mine yes it stuttery

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I'm not seeing it on Eurosport 4K (non HDR)

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Watching Liverpool FC streaming live on Youtube and the PQ is dreadful.:td:

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Just checked and all fine here on the Tennis.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

It is fixed now

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We will have to wait at least 2 years for ITV UHD, it seems. Rather unsatisfactory considering ITV is the second UK television station.

https://advanced-television.com/2019...uple-of-years/


UK commercial broadcaster ITV has said that UHD is high on their agenda. Tom Griffiths, ITV’s Director of Broadcast & Distribution Technology, explained to delegates at the SES UHD Conference in London that setting aside ‘regionality’ which was another quite separate challenge, was very expensive and might require a different approach to that currently in use. But for UHD it was “definitely in the planning stage” and would probably be available “in the next couple of years”.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

How long have we waited for DD5.1 on ITV HD?

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Maybe we will have better luck with Britbox.

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The BBC will show all Centre Court matches at Wimbledon in UHD via the BBC iPlayer and every match in HD for the first time also via the iPlayer

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They have been in HD before via the BBC Sport app in TiVo - but not directly accessed from the iPlayer itself.

Have you got a link the the Wimbledon 2019 info?

EDIT (found one): https://www.tvbeurope.com/production...don-live-in-hd

I wonder if HLG will also be used?

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Virgin Media is getting a good press about their Wimbledon coverage in 4K and HDR.

https://www.t3.com/news/virgin-media...hd-hdr-quality

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Here's the full details as to what the BBC are doing:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/l...ledon-2019-uhd

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Presumably all theory as Wimbledon hasn't started yet.

Time for plaudits is after a few days of coverage

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Using the V6 box, iPlayer is not showing the centre court in UHD - the option is not showing up. Yet on my smart TV, UHD is showing up and available on iPlayer. Any ideas, please?

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

go to all courts then centre court UHD should show it quality look great with HDR too not a fan of tennis but wanted to check quality

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What model tv do you have? You may need to set it to show you have HDR external devices via HDMI.

Does Netflix HDR work on your V6?

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Thanks for the replies. Went to all courts but the centre court 'icon' does not show UHD whereas it does on my TV.

I have an LG OLED TV which does show the V6 Netflix app in UHD

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

If you go into the iPlayer Settings screen on the V6 and the iPlayer Beta option, what UHD test do you see? Is it the same one as on your LG iPlayer app?

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

That's one thing I tried and there's no UHD test option showing on the V6 iPlayer but it does on the LG app.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Have you checked this menu? - https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmu.../#4f6932656786

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

What's your exact TV model and which HDMI port is the V6 plugged into?

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It's an LG OLED55E6V and the V6 is plugged into HDMI2

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I've just checked the Forbes link and switched HDMI2 Deep Colour to 'on' and it's worked - the UHD option for the centre court is showing on my V6 iPlayer.

Many thanks to you all for your help.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Glad it's working :)

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The 4k option for iPlayer isn't showing for me on the V6 box on my Sony android TV ��it's 4k am I missing something

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Does this option exist to try?

Press the HOME button on the remote control.
Select Settings**
Select External inputs in the TV category.
Select HDMI signal format and set to Enhanced format.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Those setting are already activated on my TV

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The 4k option isn't showing for me either on the Sony AF9 4k.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Finally some content from the Virgin TV Ultra HD channel has been made available in the Catch Up section, the new 'Virgin Media Original' series The Rook.

Hopefully in the future VM will put more of the programmes from this channel in On Demand.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

I think Arrow is in there too.

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I don't think Arrow is shown on the Virgin TV Ultra HD channel, last time I looked it was on Sky One and Paramount Network.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

No - just check and just The Rook there.

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The Rook is there for me but says subscribe. I'm on VVIP so I'm going to contact them tonight as I need a new remote also which I have been putting off for months so kill 2 rooks with 1 stone.....

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Maybe I'm wrong in this but I vaguely remember someone saying you can do something in the Settings menus to "refresh" what your package is on the box if something is not showing correctly.

If this is true, can someone please post the procedure as this would surely mean a call to VM's call centres wouldn't be necessary.

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I just noticed ozsat posted the procedure I was referring to above on The Rook thread.

So I'll just copy'n'paste what they put there.

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I have recently purchased the Sony AF9 4k TV to go with my V6 and an old Yamaha AV.All I did was unplug the hdmi cable from the old tv and plugged it into the Sony. Everything worked as it should do and the UHD content looked great.But when I pressed the info button on the Sony remote,it said it was 1080 only.Looking in the setting section of the V6,the video out said 1080 as well and 2160 was greyed out. Surely if the V6 thinks I can only get 1080 content,the UHD content would be greyed out. So my question is,is it possible to get 4k even though the V6 says it's 1080.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Are connected directly from the V6 to the TV or are you going through the AV kit?

To get 4k, everything in the HDMI chain has to support it

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Is the HDMI cable 4K capable?

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Thanks, Ben for your reply.

My AV doesn't support it.If I connect directly from the TV to the V6 it does say 2160, whether I'm watching SD/HD,is that because of the upscaling?

But surely,when connected via my AV,I should not be able to view any UHD content,but I can.BT UHD does/seem to look very good to me.If you say that you can watch UHD but it some how descales down to 1080,then I will have to get a new amp.This is so confusing!

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Yes, it is, as it works if I connect straight from the V6 to the TV.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

The V6 will downscale UHD if necessary.

Try connecting the amp to the 'ARC' HDMI socket on the TV, instead of going V6->amp->TV.
Alternatively, connect the amp by optical instead of HDMI.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Thanks for the info.I did not think it would downscale.Will try your idea tomorrow.Many thanks to everyone for your help.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Thanks, spiderplant, that worked and saved me some money.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Certainly does downscale UHD to HD - been watching BT Premier League via this method as it seems to give a better PQ.

2 downsides, the amount of disc space required for the UHD recording and you cannot watch a UHD recording over wifi connection from your 2nd v6 box.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

Your Amp is not 4k compatible then. I have the same issue. When I do get a 4k TV I will also need to invest in a new Amp.

Re: UHD on Virgin Media
 

I posted earlier in this thread as not getting the UHD option on the V6 iPlayer Wimbledon Centre Court. I solved this with your help by enabling Deep Colour on the TV HDMI port. However, comparing this option with using the iPlayer app directly on my LG OLED TV I've discovered that whilst UHD is working on the V6 iPlayer, HLG HDR isn't. Any ideas, please?