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More like Billy Eilish seeks more publicity. ;)

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You should also read it properly. :dozey:

The two months refers to her virus infection, nothing to do with porn or anything else.

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I did read it to the best of my ability.

A person's limitations due to disability should always be taken into account.

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As Tommy Cooper said, “Doctor I’ve broken my arm in six places.” Doctor: “Well don’t go to those places”

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The answer to offensive/discriminatory behaviour is for said behaviour to be appropriately dealt with.

If a wheelchair user went to a bar and was subject to abuse and offensive behaviour, the answer isn't to tell them not to go to that particular bar.

If the abuse was from a house on the street, the answer isn't for the disabled man to be expected to use another route or put in ear plugs.

This new legislation aims to set out the rules that we must all abide by, or face the consequences. By far, the vast majority of people won't need to make any changes as they already behave properly on the internet.

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Like watching porn at 11 years old :p:

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Or, you didn't read it correctly in haste to post on here something which you thought furthered your argument.

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Well ….it sort of is. Not excusing the behaviour but if I had a bad experience somewhere I am unlikely to go there again.

If they received abuse specifically because of their disability by the management of that establishment that’s different. If they received abuse by patrons that wasn’t dealt with they may also have a point, but either way, would you go back?

Well “on the street” is an issue and it also depends on the definition of “abuse”

Being “exposed” to something and something being “targeted” at you are two different things.

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Or they could read it several times to make sure they actually understood it, instead of making rash statements based on incorrect comprehension.

Its a perfectly valid answer, just one you dont want to hear.

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You clearly haven't got a clue what it's like to have a brain injury, even worse you don't even seem willing to try and understand. Let's hope you never have to find out the hard way.

If a member of a protected group is being unlawfully discriminated against, this behaviour must be stopped.

Anyone in business who displayed such a view is likely to face legal action or a visit from the police.

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You "haven't got a clue" about me, or my family, so yet another rash statement.

So now you're confusing "abuse and offensive behaviour" (which is subjective btw) with "unlawfully discriminated", two completely different things.

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Do you know what it is like to have a brain injury?

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Well no, but the street is public land.

People should vote with their wallets. Not specific to disabilities, but #metoo led to a number of venues essentially outed as routinely tolerating harassment/spiking drinks/etc. Yet many of the people making the claim were regular in attendance.

Utterly bizarre. Don't fund someone who isn't looking after you.

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If your disability makes you not be able to understand what you are reading correctly, maybe you should refrain from posting such links and quoting them?

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The irony is strong in this one.

I do. And I’m pretty much certain I share none of the OP’s negative traits.

Oh come on!! Next you’ll be asking Boris to stop lying!

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So do I. And because of this I have a level of understanding for the OP and do not target him when he posts as some do on this forum. Easy enough to ignore someone than target them for their issues which I believe is a form of bullying

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No one is targeting Richard. If we all want a level playing field on interacting in the world, having a two tier system were some people are off limits isn't the way to go. If Richard posts on the understanding that he might not understand fully the context of what he has posted, then that's down to him, not everyone else to tip toe around him by allowing him to post things that are potentially untrue. It's so far away from bullying, it's laughable that it's even mentioned.

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I refer you to post 919 in this thread.

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you see I post my point and the reply I get is it is laughable. You could have ignored my post or been at least polite in your disagreement but no you decided to post in a passive aggressive way. Guess you may well sit laughing at this reply too but you just proved my point.

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Isn't that what everyone does? Very few people here know each other in the real world. We all have our own biases

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In an ideal world we would all just be nice. I know a pipe dream but one can pray one day it will happen. And I do

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Not as much as one certain poster on here who is know for being Really Chronic for such behaviour.

As a side note they’re also well known for it on Digital Spy - I know one of the mods and this person is a often a thorn in the side for testing the patience of their team by posting the same kind of thing regularly.

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You call it bullying, I call it posting a reasoned reply. I'm not going to refrain from posting because you take things the wrong way, that's not the way forward.

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reasoned is not always the same as reasonable

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yeah I understand but it only becomes a problem because the individual allows to it get to them. As I said it can just be ignored or with a little humility accepted.

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Very true, but can easily/equally apply to either of both sides of a discussion. Something often missed when doling out the threats of legal action etc.

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It's also a reasonable reply.

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It becomes a problem when the poster posts provocative comments then threatens legal action (laughable) when anyone disagrees with them in any way.

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oh most definitely. I think the issues most desperately to get addressed though are those that cause real harm. I think those subjected should be kindly encouraged to report it to the site owners and the site owners obligated to investigate and where serious offences committed pass information forward.

When teenaged and push so far they feel so desperate they kill themselves then I am sure everyone on this forum agrees something needs to be done

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and you by posting this are targeting them. 2 wrongs do not make a right

This topic is a huge and important one yet no matter who is to blame it has turned into an Arthur is wrong everyone else is right thread

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in your opinion

By belittling my opinion by calling it laughable I therefore disagree with your opinion that it was reasonable

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So pointing out someone’s antisocial behaviour and silly threats of legal bullying is “targeting them”?

Have I got that right?

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Which is fine, until people try and take that opinion away from you.

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yes pretty much.

If you were in Tesco and someone with Tourette's starting swearing at you saying obscene things would that be antisocial behaviour or a symptom of their disability ?

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How would I know they had Tourette’s?

How would I know for certain that they’re not just milking it as an excuse? Genuine questions.

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As far as I am aware those with Tourette’s exibit a visible tick when they are having an episode

You are not to know but if you were to know the person had a disability one would make allowances knowing they have the issue

Say for example a close relative of yours who you know suffers from severe anxiety. You invited them to your birthday party and they said they were coming. Then on the day they did not show up. Would you see it as a slight or call them and make sure they are ok? The difference being you would have some form of understanding of the persons issues.

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And you don’t think such a ‘tick’ can be copied by anyone?

If I knew someone had such a disability, you’re right, I would make allowances.

But nobody on CF knows if anyone else has a disability for certain.

But either way, disability or not, I will not stand by and allow legal threats to go unanswered.

Let me tell you something. I’ve been part of this forum for 18 years (not so much the last 5 or so as I’ve been side tracked) and in all that time I can assure you that a grand total of zero people have accused me of bullying anyone.

If I had then I’m sure the mods/admins would have a chat with me.

No such chat has ever taken place.

I’m not bullying or targeting anyone unless it can be proven they have a “disability” or whatever as you say.

My inbox is open to any such evidence if anybody feels inclined to send it.

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What if your partner or wife (or someone on social media) posts a photo of themselves and asks if their arse look big and God forbid you give an honest answer of 'yeah it does, it's huge' and they don't like the answer is that being abusive or reasonable?

It applies to everything when it comes to social media, if you put yourself out there then expect negative comments, if you don't like it, don't put yourself in that position. Same applies to certain people on here.

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Well I for one would give the benefit of doubt. I understand peoples frustration. Even a mother sometimes gets frustrated with a crying baby, but she still carries love and kindness in her heart.

I try to carry love and kindness in mine. But same as everyone else get things wrong sometimes.

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Such innocence is rarely found these days. It’s almost quaint.

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I am not innocent, I have done and seen terrible things. But I have grown and changed

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I’m openly cynical.

I’m part of an online paedophile hunting group, I’ve seen and heard some truly horrific things.

I’ve seen such things blamed on someone’s “mental disability” but when it comes to court there is no mention of it, often been withdrawn as ‘evidence’ when a psych report was requested.

I am not suggesting anyone on CF is a paedophile.

However what I have seen elsewhere is people claiming to have all kinds of conditions when it actual fact, they don’t.

I even see online predators who later genuinely have conditions try to blame their actions on what these conditions are.

So yeah, when someone tries to blame their odious and anti-social behaviour on “disability”, excuse me (not really) if I remain sceptical until it’s proven.

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Fair play on being part of that. I would not like to be surrounded by that in my daily life.

I live on an opposite principle to you and yes it has caused me damage and pain but I trust people until proven untrustworthy. I struggle enough in life without having so much distrust in it

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The forum member in question has proven themselves to be untrustworthy numerous times.

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I will take your word for it. See what I did there haha

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There is no way to totally protect people with laws never has been and never will be it can protect upto a point but is most effective when a person exercised sound judgments. It would be great if everyone would be nice and polite but it just isn't going to happen and it cannot be acceptable to impact the majority for the sake of the minority as down that route lies madness.

Free speech no longer exists and we even have the beginnings of a thought police personally I'd rather hear the truth from people regardless of how unpleasant or offensive it may be as that enables me to strengthen myself in dealing with those things and those types of person. I've not been a member here very long but I've read a bit of Richard's postings enough to know he'd support the total shutdown of any expression of views he doesn't like or construed to be offensive another dangerous route to go down.

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People like Richard forget there is always a block/ignore button and what it for.

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So you think that the majority should always take precedence over the minority, good heavens! Thankfully society as a whole doesn't think like that.

Free speech certainly does exist and is a long held part of our British identity and culture. Free speech, however, does not mean that people can say anything that they like, now that would be a route to madness.

What you refer to as 'the truth', is often simply a matter of opinion, a personal (mis)judgement or simply a case of bullying/harassment/trolling.

I have no objection whatsoever to those with a different viewpoint to mine and never have had- isn't discussing.different viewpoints the whole point of a forum? No, my issues are with those who seek to make a debate personal, the use of lies, deliberately not taking a person's disability into account or questioning a person's disability and its affects thereof.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks, all the evidence has been submitted by our organisation and many others and it's now down to the politicians to decide how to proceed with this new legislation to protect vulnerable people on the internet. The first signs are that the committee currently scrutinising the matter don't think that the legislation goes far enough with regards to some things eg material online that encourages or drives someone to commit suicide.

Despite my own disabilities, I always strive to take into account the effects that physical or mental disabilities have on others. An autistic member, for example, is likely to view the world differently to others and truly believe that they are right. If their autism is aspergers, this can often lead to an obsession, particularly if they have other complex mental health problems/disabilities on top.

This obsessive behaviour can take many forms and can include people, hobbies, sport, personal fitness, animals etc as per this link:

https://healthtalk.org/life-autism-s...essions-autism

Regarding my own disability, those who are unsure of the effects of a serious brain injury may find this site informative:

https://www.headway.org.uk/about-bra...-brain-injury/

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Numerous allegations, yet nothing to support what you keep saying.

You may wish to withdraw your claim that an employee of Hearst UK has unlawfully passed on information about one of their members to yourself.

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Free speech means speech without control that people can say whatever they want we no longer have that and the number of things that people can no longer say is growing. I despise both extremes in politics but as much as I despise them they should be free to spout their ideology so I can oppose it and respond to it. No when it comes to speech the majority should be the deciding factor because minorities being minorities are too numerous and to placate them all could leave very little.

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where ?

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Which is exactly what you did when you accused me of laughing at your disability and when I asked for proof, you crapped yourself because you had none. You now try to sweep it under the carpet by saying it was dealt with by moderation.

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Click in the "User CP" (near top left hand corner)

About halfway down on the left hand side is "Edit Ignore List"

You then have the option to add a member to your Ignore List.

(nb - Admins and/or Mods cannot be added to an Ignore List).

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You may wish to withdraw your advice to someone who neither needs or requested it.

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:clap:

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What if they are posting as a normal member not on mod duty?

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Makes no difference. You can’t put a Mod or Admin on ignore.

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many thanks. What does the ignore actual do though? does it just mean I do not get notified or does it actually block them? I have notifications off except for messages anyway so if it does not block so I do not see what they post it does not help me

Just tested I never get to see their posts woohoo. Do they still see mine?

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They can still see your posts and you can still see theirs if someone quotes them in a reply.

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oh. Well the partial block will have to do then I guess. Still it will be a friendlier place for me now anyway

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Then under your definition of free speech the UK, and everywhere else, has never had free speech.

Are you suggesting that those who were traced after making racially abusive comments to those three football players should not have been dealt with for this? If so, thank heavens we don't have a 'say whatever you like' version of free speech.

You wouldn't be the only one to think like this though, Matthew Wright is on record as saying that he believes that free speech should have no controls whatsoever.

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This article looks at the call to get rid of online anonymity as a way to prevent inappropriate comments:

https://aeon.co/essays/curtailing-an...g-online-abuse

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Yeah then you can accuse anyone of rape live on TV with no chance of repercussions whatsoever

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Generally yes, its called majority rule, I think you'll find its quite common.
The cause of many issues now is the minority trying to 'take precedence'.

What you refer to as "bullying/harassment/trolling" is also a matter of opinion, as is your assertion its (mis)judgement.

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Being of that age remember being called names all my childhood ,can l sue someone please

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Also Mods do not put anyone on ignore much as we would love to.😉

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Exactly, which is why I don't think that complete freedom of speech is a good thing. We have the balance about right in this country.

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Majority rule is fine, as long as vulnerable or oppressed minorities are catered for, which is happening now.

Hopefully these new laws will make it clearer what is acceptable and what isn't ie freedom of speech within defined parameters of acceptability. People will still be able to speak freely, but will have to be mindful of the feelings of others. The use of tact and mutual respect goes a long way.

I'm also hoping that dealing with scammers will be a priority too, as they initially seemed to reject this request.

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I assume the role is voluntary and not a paid job? that being the case you obviously choose to be part of the team so therefore willingly accept the bad that comes with it.

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Yes they do get paid. Virgin give them free services to make sure the place is kept Virgin-friendly

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:angel:

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That would be the case with any mod on any forum.

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And all those free virgin flights and away days.

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Well I doubt anyone will disagree with that.

You assume correctly.
However, that does not not mean they have to "accept the bad".
Anyone breaking the rules [T&C's] will find their participation curtailed.

The link is at the bottom of every page : Terms and Conditions.

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Sky give out free services to moderators, but only on their own Community Forum.

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I see the terms breached on a regular basis by certain members who have been here a long time and they are still here. I also had Maggy herself in my in box warning me about 1 member. Go figure

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In your opinion, which to be blunt, doesnt count here.

I suggest you, and everyone else, get back to the subject.

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It’s the team’s decision on whether or not someone has breached any T&Cs. Their site, their rules, their interpretation.

Just as you (or anyone else) may see something you consider to be “trolling” does not necessarily make it so.

There is a report post junction on this site. If you see perceived “trolling”, report it and leave it to the team. Simple.

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Why would they give free services to mods on any other forum? That makes no sense.

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maybe they work quite hard on the forum ? I am sure it is often a godforsaken task

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Forgive me, but that is one of the most absurd statements I’ve read. Because you volunteer your time, for free, you should accept abuse?

I volunteer to referee kids football games, so I should accept abuse from parents? For example.

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PMs are private, imo if you share the contents in public the least you could do is have the courtesy to keep names out of it :shrug:,

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I full well know it is having been one, it's not much better now being an Admin.

#I was referring to Richards comment when he seemed it necessary to say it was only Sky forum mods that get free services and not any others.

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If you volunteer your time, you may be even less likely to tolerate abuse as it's easier to leave than paid employment.

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damn you quoted Pierre, not much use this ignore feature.

Maybe the first stage of dealing with trolls on this forum would be a working block feature I would be a lot happier with one.

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Buy you'd have to block yourself.

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:bsmack:

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:tu:

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:kiss:

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I was also a mod once in the gaming section of a large forum, also 'elected' as the spokesperson/ambassador/diplomat for dealing with any issues with other gaming 'clans' of the many online games we played.

All unpaid voluntary, no special allowances for what I posted as a mod (rules are rules) . . made lots of friends, made a few enemies, that's life ;)

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When we modded the original NTHellworld (when NTL owned it) one of the team successfully negotiated £200 a month plus the-then NTL staff services package for us all which meant we had the full internet, phone and tv package for something like £20 per month.

Happy days :D

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Dark forces orchestrating social media abuse claim:

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/new...-40176118.html

It appears that there could be an on demand industry devoted to this practice :shocked:

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TikTok star with spinal muscular atrophy talks about her online trolls:

https://londondaily.com/the-tiktok-s...y-myths-online

Do those who advocate complete and utter freedom of speech believe that this young woman should have to put up with this on top of everything else that she has to cope with, just so that others can amuse themselves?

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FFS go and give your head a shake, that is a wholly positive video showing a person with several physical challenges that has overcome them and is very successful.

She mentions she get some negative and hateful comments, briefly, but that would be the same for anyone.

For you to twist that into the narrative “you” are trying to push onto is us wholly disingenuous.

For someone who claims to be cognitively impaired, your showing very acute cognitive skills…..just saying.

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QFT & J

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And what expertise do you have to offer on the effects of a brain injury? If none, I provided a link the other day.

If you are able to remotely diagnose somebody without any training, I imagine that the NHS would snap you up.

Do you think that this young woman should have to put up with online trolls just so that the likes of you can have your free speech free for all?

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I don’t agree with you often but that’s the bullseye of the nail on the head.

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Has the original title heading been answered?

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I’d say not.

This thread began 5 years ago and I’m not aware of any attitudes significantly changing in that time.

Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 

Indeed, although there has been a significant rise in the 'dragging up' of things from many years ago, which probably makes it look like there's a difference :rolleyes:


oh, and comedy isn't funny anymore . .

Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 

You only have to look at the tragic case of Caroline Flack to see little, if indeed anything has changed in the last 5 years.

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I had to look that one up and I'm still confused.
Her death doesnt seem related to anything online ?

She was arrested for assulting her boyfriend.
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Its not really a question, just a statement.

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She took a brown-stuff storm of abuse online which is believe to have contributed to her suicide.

Surely the #BeKind campaign didn’t pass you by?

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-b1802514.html

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Anything with a # tag will totally bypass me.
I have no time or tolerance for so called social media.

The only thing I ever look at (about once a week) is Fakebook.
Its where a few friends and family post pictures, Im usually done inside 5 minutes.

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It was a huge thing at the time and the ramifications are still being felt today by some.

Given how much abuse she received it’s plain to see all these initiatives, statements and ideas etc that keep being linked to in this thread have had minimal if any effect.

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So ..
Did anyone seriously think that was going to work ?


So why does no one ever suggest the most obvious - dont use them ?
Just disable your account, or make it private (if such an option exists).

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I doubt it - a lot of people and companies felt they had to do/say something.

This sort of thing is exactly why another 5 years of this thread won’t change anything. Not suggesting nothing is done, I just can’t be bothered with a change of policy, campaigns etc just for the sake of being seen to do something, which is what I see the vast majority of the new links in this thread to be.

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It’s not always that easy for everyone. Some peoples’ jobs involve a social media presence for example.

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You can make an account private but when you interact in a public group then people can respond.

People should be allowed to go about their business without threat and fear of persecution though. Social media site owners have a responsibility to their membership to protect them from such

Where is the justice for the innocent with the "just not use them" approach? How is it right to punish the innocent and leave the guilty to continue doing as they please?

Should women not go to clubs so they cannot get date raped? should people stay in after dark so they cannot get robbed? no doubt it will be said that this is a stupid comparison, but is it? I personally do not think so

Plus on top of all that you are totally missing the whole psychological aspect of social media and the millennial there is an interesting video on it I will see if I can find it

Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 

Should we tell people to lock their doors at night in case they get burgled?

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Much like 'abuse', that's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and say.

In reality however, almost impossible to achieve.
Facebook has roughly 2.89 Billion active users.
Twitter has about 200 Million, Instagram just about 1 Billion.

Those things are not the same, so not really a valid comparison.
If you want to try and compare them, the same advice applies, if you think its unsafe, dont do it.

Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 

did you watch the video?

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Very true , but so many want others to think for them :erm: