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Yesterday +1, Eden +1, Good Food HD, Good Food +1 and Dave HD did launch on an Friday but their was added to the EPG on the Tuesday before hand. |
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I kind of think this was BT's strategy all along - wait until the last minute so as to get as many BB subscribers as possible and then agree a deal for XL. As for Virgin, they might have actually been better off agreeing a standalone £12/£15 deal early on rather than losing a heap of customers. Perhaps BT didn't want to sell them that way (as they couldn't get personal details as they do for Sky customers). |
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I am no longer going to rant over this. VM are just playing with our minds, they should be doing what Smallworld Cable had the courtesy of doing.
It annoys me when a major company treats its customers with such poor mentality, l think it's appalling. I ain't saying anymore. I cannot see it being on the system by the time the PL starts - i will only believe things when l see a pink elephant land it my garden. |
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I would just like to say a big thanks to Media Boy and anyone else who provided information on new channels and changes.
I emailed Uktv at the end if July to be told that Virgin Media would not be carrying the new Drama channel anytime soon. Just shows that Media Boy and the likes know more and are good at keeping us updated so cheers. |
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This could be a serious coup for Virgin if we get the channels on XL. No additional subs & we get multiroom access to BT's channels.
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I can see Virgin getting BT Sport but can't see it being part of XL. It would make no sense unless Virgin increase the price of XL. Time will tell.
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I was quite impressed that it had some of the features of the TIVO, but what really got to me was the five channels to record at the same time and the 400TB - that's really nice! |
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tick tock, tick tock......:)
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I feel that Friday is gonna be a big day for us guys on VM :)
And gals :) |
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I'm hoping for all the football fans out there that VM are offering the whole package on XL (or even VIP). It would be a very good deal and one I have been hoping for since negotiations began. I am just glad that people are finally starting to accept that we will get the channels on Saturday. |
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(a virgin fueled tv :D) |
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I'll be happy if its announced tomorrow and included in the xl pack for no extra cost :)
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The other point to make about this is that if people really really wanted the channel they probably would have moved for it by now, or made other arrangements. If it's offered as a premium add on by Virgin there will likely be very low take up. If BT are offering it to Virgin they'll want a return on the deal, and I just can't see how subscriptions to premium channel will provide that.
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Just singing in the rain What a glorious feelin' We are getting BT Sports And l am happy again I'm laughing at clouds So dark up above The sun's in my heart And I'm ready for love Let the stormy clouds chase Everyone from the place Come on with the rain I've a smile on my face I walk down the lane With a happy refrain Just singin', Singin' in the rain Dancin' in the rain Dee-ah dee-ah dee-ah Dee-ah dee-ah dee-ah I'm happy again! We are getting BT Sorts And l am happy again I'm singin' and dancin' in the rain! I'm dancin' and singin' in the rain... [ADDITIONAL VERSE] Why am I smiling And why do I sing? Why does August Seem sunny as spring? Why do I get up Each morning and start? Happy and head up With joy in my heart Why is each new task A trifle to do? Because I am living A life full of you. |
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We must all accept by now people on the phone and retentions know nothing about BT sport. The only people who know are the people who've done the deal or people working on the channel launch.
Other than that it's constant lies, confusions and generic fobbing off |
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Heaven knows I'm miserable now. The Smiths.
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That said, I fancied 2-1 england, so still aways to go (and hope i am wrong :)) |
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Virgin Media are doing maintenance work in my street next tuesday 20th august 2013 there upgrading the services where i live so maybe bt sports might launch after then? Virgin Media sent me a letter today through the post this morning.
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What is the above..of course its a rant !! You really really really cannot get it into your head that negotiations are negotiations and commercial confidentiality dictates that neither side can't just go spouting their mouths of as to what is going on. Im surprised that the CEO's secretary's sisters aunt's best friend hasnt phoned/emailed you to tell you that. I'm still confident BT Sport will be in the VM line up by the weekend, if not, it soon will be, but Im not going loose any sleep over it or leave VM if it isnt. I will watch the games via other means. :) |
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Would Mr Stokes like some chips to go with his hat and pants?
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Next it will be that the water board is in my street, will the champagne flow :D ---------- Post added at 20:25 ---------- Previous post was at 20:24 ---------- Actually, if scotland win..it might just be champers :D |
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But saying that I did not know that HISTORY +1 was coming until launch. |
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If the rumour BT Sports deal has been signed why wait until Friday to launch it.
BT Sports are rumours as Testing on Virgin Media right now - been testing over an week. Channel 5 HD deal was signed the day before it was added on it launch day. My own view is the BT Sports deal being signed is one big lie. |
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Media Boy, Does your crystal ball tell you anything new about BT Sport and are you really aged 7 ?
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I will take that all in good faith (as I'm not going to check if they are crystal :D) |
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Media Boy brand is 7 - not it owner. |
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virgin agreed to it as they got a good deal for the channel at a good price. BT agreed and started an aggressive advertisement campaign stating it wasn't coming to virgin media to get subscribers to its new service. they haven't announced it to the stock markets as it hasn't officially been signed its all wink wink hush hush lol lol sort of thing. I don't think this will happen but it would match up with some of the random rumours which have been started and I refer to the legendary BomberAF (RIP) when I say this. If I was BT sport and had made this secret deal i'd leave it to the last possible day before the premier league started to get the panicking football nuts to leave VM for BT Just a theory. And i'm still very pessimistic about it launching. |
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Jammie is right, although Rooney was onside but Scotland the better side for much of that half. Now level I expect England to go on and win from here. So perhaps BT Sport isn't coming after all!!!
Back on topic I have always been impressed with how easily MB can recall channel launch dates and the circumstances surrounding them. I would suggest that nobody has more experience to draw on than he when it comes to this sort of thing, and so sure does he seem that he doesn't think this is happening, that I am myself starting to have doubts. |
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remember guys this is tv threat not a football one
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Basically, when Fries and the Liberty board was in London a few weeks ago, he said his whole time was pretty much spent dealing with the BT sports issue. He invited the BT and Sky bosses to meet the new VM and Liberty managment team. They had a chat, but they came to no agreement over sports rights. Fries thinks eventually BT will need to wholesale its channels to VM to recoup some of its costs, but in the short term BT have made it clear that this is not going to happen at the price VM want to pay. That's from the horses mouth. The webcast is on Liberty's site and anyone can listen to it. Perhaps the situation has changed since then, but I doubt it. |
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:) ..and to keep me on thread.. Media Boy's contribution is fantastic. I always head to his post first, to check on any updates. :) |
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Bt has spent a lot of money on sport. It wants to attract people to its platform not someone else's. But I agree with Fries, eventually BT will need to recoup that money and wholesale, but not yet. |
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Sorry Horizon but deals can be sealed very quickly nowadays and one suspects there have been top level talks on a day to day basis since those meetings and the result of that is a deal has now been agreed in my humble opinion.
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If it isn't on VM by the PL kick off then the value of the product on offer goes down IMO.
Anyone know how many people have the XL pack? If VM pay BT £3 per XL subscriber i'd bet that will bring in more than BT would get in subs from a standalone via VM (even tho i don't know the figure). |
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All I would add is that I would question what has changed between when the Liberty people met BT three weeks ago and now. Nothing, would be my answer. VM/LIberty know what price BT want for their stuff and I don't see that changing in the short term. |
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http://vmhd.blogspot.co.uk/ there were up a short time till pic started getting posted then taken down and also showed new channel numbers for ESPN |
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They can prepare all they want and have webpages ready, doesn't mean its actually going to happen. Why don't we all just wait until 12.45 Saturday? If BT Sports appears, then that is great for those people that like football. |
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All I will say is web page mock ups are done all the time by web design teams in every industry (i work in IT, heavily involved in development), to ensure that the CSS is right and doesnt screw the layout...and from time time, these mock ups are unfortunately released erroneously to a live environment. But it does lead to a shaft of light I suppose. :) |
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I think if bt launch on virgin media
it will be bt sports 1 536 bt sports 1 hd 537 bt sports 2 538 bt sports 2 hd 539 espn 540 espn hd 541 and virgin can launch a tv channels at any time they launched sky sports extra in 2004 at 3pm in the afternoon.... also with the screen shot on tv anywhere could the deal include free web stream |
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Even though I hate football, I always want more choice of channels than not. I hope BT sports appears, but the evidence says the complete opposite. I'm done on the subject now. Who wants to talk about whether (when) VM will replace tivo with horizon instead?...;) |
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ESPN was on 541. ESPN HD was on 542. BT Sports 1 was 547. BT Sports 2 was 548. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29w360z&s=5 Thanks to Jameseh at 1.11pm today http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35609699-post901.html |
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