Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35686708)

Will this be available from the store like 8.1 or from the normal Windows Update?

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35686167)

What do I do with my XP netbook (Samsung NC-10) which doesn't meet the minimum requirements.

Its not used a main machine, so I don't see any really problems, I have avast running and don't plan on accessing any potentially dodgy sites so should be ok.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35686177)

Yeah thats mine (I did upgrade it to 2GB RAM).

I ran the compatibility program, and it had issues.

Originally Posted by Pauls9 (Post 35686976)

Updates are published on the second Tuesday of the month (no idea what time), but bear in mind that it's Seattle time, so we don't get to see them till late Tuesday or Wednesday.

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35687064)

The Windows Blog says it's KB2919355 but that one hasn't come up when checking for updates on mine

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35687080)

Yeah that one came up with some other updates so I installed them but now it's saying no updates are available again hmmm

Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35687096)

according to some site which I cant remember the update is released at 10.00 PST which is about 8pm UK time but could be an hour later due to BST.

I haven't found it yet.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35687140)

it's live just seen it in mine even though I all ready had it

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35687153)

I thought the Start Menu was in this update :(

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35687157)

no they made it clear it in either another update to 8.1 or windows 9 next year most probably in a new update to 8.1 later this year

Originally Posted by Slyder (Post 35687163)

Eh? The official video on YouTube for the update clearly states they included a start menu in this update. I'm confused now then :(

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35687159)

why in Christs name is this not called a service pack? I already have windows 8.1 on my pc now they want me to install windows 8.1 update on windows 8.1 it makes no sense

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35687164)

no they said in build in a future update

---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:12 ----------

This post will focus mostly on the UI changes - there may be future AskPFE Platforms posts that dive into some of the other aspects of the Update.

Before we get ahead of ourselves, let's cover a few heads-up/FAQ comments:

•It will likely change your system's current behavior:

◦For starters, unless the device is a tablet, a system with this update will boot to the desktop by default
◾You can still choose one way or another but I was surprised when I rebooted and was taken to my desktop instead of my Start screen

◦See the chart further down in the post for a clear list of what default settings are changed and how

•It does NOT include the Start menu that you may have seen/heard about at the recent Build conference. That is some exciting near-future stuff, which demonstrates our on-going commitment to deliver on customer feedback (such as your comments on this very blog) •It is defined as an "Important – Security update" in our Windows Updates framework
•It is a cumulative update to Windows 8.1 that includes all previously released security and non-security updates

•It is a required update to keep your Windows 8.1 device current
◦Failure to install this Update will prevent Windows Update from patching your system with any future updates starting with Updates released in May 2014 (get busy!)


•Windows 8.1 is a prerequisite (vs Windows 8 RTM)
◦Windows 8.1 media/WIMs/TechNet ISOs/Store bits/etc will be slipstreamed with this Update in the near term

•KB2919442 is a pre-requisite update - released in March 2014 – you'll need this before 2919355 will be recognized

•Additional info can be found in the KB – which obviously, you should read
◦http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2919355


•The Assessment and Deployment Kit (ADK) has been updated to accommodate the changes to Windows with this Update

Originally Posted by Slyder (Post 35687170)

Well that's a bit of a let down. :(

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35687169)

I think it's that apart from XP SP2 which really should have been called XP.1 or something, Service Packs haven't really introduced new functionality - they are supposed to be security patch roll ups only

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35687172)

that being the case then it should be 8.2

and service packs by definition add updates features and enhancements so it is a service pack

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35687173)

Microsoft said after 7 service pack 1 they be no more service packs

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35687179)

End of the day, Microsoft can call them whatever they like. It's really not worth worrying about

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35687192)

Will this Win 7 work on my Samsung NC-10 (2GB RAM), or is a different version needed, and is a cheaper version required.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Microsoft-Wi...ords=windows+7

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35687286)

Of course the main reason for the update is that if you don't do it, you lose any future security updates for 8.1

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35687343)

sounding more and more like a service pack do you not think lol lol

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35687398)

I am still using Windows 8 on my laptop and use StartIsBack so I am assuming that I will need to sort out the original 8.1 before I can install this latest 8.1? Only considering doing this because of Ben's post above which mentions that " if you don't do it, you lose any future security updates for 8.1 "

Is there anything I need to know about/do to ensure a smooth install?

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35687400)

I have startisback running and the update did not conflict at all.

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35687403)

Cheers Sirius. Did you just leave it in place or did you disable it whilst you did the update?

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35687398)

Only considering doing this because of Ben's post above which mentions that " if you don't do it, you lose any future security updates for 8.1 "

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35687412)

Oddly, if you haven't yet installed 8.1 then security updates for Win8 will carry on until 2016

However, I'd personally say it's worth doing anyway - there is nothing in either update that makes Win 8 worse that it was ;)

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35687413)

Thank you Ben. I hate that I am so timid when it come to computers. Any sign of a blank screen or something taking too long and I start eying the gin bottle for courage. :D

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35687479)

Well an hour and a half later I have got the first 8.1 up and running. What a pain!!!!. lost my startisback and had to endure the tiles whilst I got it back. I may be a stick in the mud but without a touch screen I hate the tiles concept.

I will do the next 8.1 tomorrow so will probably be three sheets to the wind by tomorrow evening. <<<Reminder to me, buy more Gin.>>> :D

Originally Posted by damien c (Post 35687606)

Still using Windows 8.1 without a start menu replacement app.

The last time I had to use the start screen was when I actually installed Windows and that was only to create the shortcuts on the desktop and get, the 8.1 update.

I will be happy when the start menu is back but I can live without it and that is why I have not gone for something like Classic Shell.

It does take a few extra steps sometimes to get to some of the options on windows 8 compared to windows 7.

Either way I will continue to use windows 8 without a replacement tool, but I do hope that they introduce the menu back in to it like it is in windows 7 just to make getting to some options abit quicker and easier.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35687666)

the start menu will not be the windows 7 one when it comes back

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35691108)

According to new details from Wzor, Microsoft will roll out another update to Windows 8.1 (Update 2) sometime in September of this year, during the Autumn season. Microsoft may refer to this update as Windows 8.1 Update 2 or may even call it Windows 8.2, as there appears to be some sort of heated internal discussion on what to call it. Microsoft is expected to roll out the Start Menu, showcased during Build 2014, in this update.

http://www.winbeta.org/news/rumor-sh...-windows-cloud

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35691110)

they should just call it a service pack which it is lol lol

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35691111)

not if it different kernel :LOL: