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clinteastman 18-11-2010 13:22

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35123955)
Great point , that's what I was trying to say wouldn't it be better to have standard issue box as VHD with TIVo , then V+ HD (new build Cisco box say) with TIVO £75 then a Premium TIVO with all bells and whistles £150.

Many people want a PVR but don't want to pay £150 for the pleasure. Cable could lose customers here as Sky offer a free Sky+HD box now.

I'm guessing at some point we will just have "VHD with TiVO inside" and "V+HD with TiVO inside". VHD as the standard box for all and V+HD with a surcharge for people lower than XL, just like it is now. "VHD with TiVO inside" almost negates the need for a DVR.

mersey70 18-11-2010 13:28

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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35123958)
I'm guessing at some point we will just have "VHD with TiVO inside" and "V+HD with TiVO inside". VHD as the standard box for all and V+HD with a surcharge for people lower than XL, just like it is now. "VHD with TiVO inside" almost negates the need for a DVR.

Why would VHD with Tivo Inside 'almost' negate the need for a DVR?

Felim_Doyle 18-11-2010 13:29

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Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 35123947)
itv 1 +1 news

itv + 1 is going 2 start soon on freeview

Surely, as a public service provider, ITV would aim to launch on all platforms simultaneously as was the case with BBC1 HD, for example.

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35123949)
Yeah I noticed that last night, channel 35.

Was there something on Freeview channel 35 before or was it already reserved for ITV +1?

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35123949)
Baffling.

How so (or were you being facetious :rolleyes:)? If you pay extra for XL you get the + and HD features included. Simples!

When did meerkats become Christmas decorations? They're everywhere in the shops with Santa hats and all!

clinteastman 18-11-2010 13:31

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35123960)
Why would VHD with Tivo Inside 'almost' negate the need for a DVR?

VM are striking VOD aggreements with most the important players, couple that with the ability to stream web content then you almost don't need to record the content yourself.

nialli 18-11-2010 13:34

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35123963)
Surely, as a public service provider, ITV would aim to launch on all platforms simultaneously as was the case with BBC1 HD, for example.

But not ITV2 HD, ITV3 HD or ITV4 HD apparently.

muppetman11 18-11-2010 13:35

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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35123958)
I'm guessing at some point we will just have "VHD with TiVO inside" and "V+HD with TiVO inside". VHD as the standard box for all and V+HD with a surcharge for people lower than XL, just like it is now. "VHD with TiVO inside" almost negates the need for a DVR.

If I had VHD with TIVO inside and missed something on Discovery HD how would I watch it with no PVR

BenMcr 18-11-2010 13:38

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35123963)
Surely, as a public service provider, ITV would aim to launch on all platforms simultaneously as was the case with BBC1 HD, for example.

Not all of ITV's channels are covered by the PSB requirement as far as I'm aware, whereas all of BBC's are

chris9991 18-11-2010 13:43

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35123955)
Great point , that's what I was trying to say wouldn't it be better to have standard issue box as VHD with TIVo , then V+ HD (new build Cisco box say) with TIVO £75 then a Premium TIVO with all bells and whistles £150.

Many people want a PVR but don't want to pay £150 for the pleasure. Cable could lose customers here as Sky offer a free Sky+HD box now.

I think you'll find that Sky charge for their 1TB box - £249 according to their package builder

http://www.sky.com/quickbuy/build

mersey70 18-11-2010 13:46

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35123963)
Surely, as a public service provider, ITV would aim to launch on all platforms simultaneously as was the case with BBC1 HD, for example.

Was there something on Freeview channel 35 before or was it already reserved for ITV +1?

How so (or were you being facetious :rolleyes:)? If you pay extra for XL or VIP you get the + and HD features included. Simples!

I would guess ITV1+1 probably will be available on VM.

Sorry for being facetious in your rolled eyes.

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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35123964)
VM are striking VOD aggreements with most the important players, couple that with the ability to stream web content then you almost don't need to record the content yourself.

I don't agree sorry, personally I value my V+ service far more than on demand but that's just me.

muppetman11 18-11-2010 13:46

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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35123973)
I think you'll find that Sky charge for their 1TB box - £249 according to their package builder

http://www.sky.com/quickbuy/build

Were in my posts have I stated they don't but they do offer a free Sky+HD box to customers bar the install charge.

chris9991 18-11-2010 13:49

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35123953)
<OT>
Speaking of EPG, why does Living never have anything on the i-button for CSI (standard V Box)? You can't tell what episode it is.
</OT>

I sometimes have to press the 'i' button twice to get info on my V box - First time blank but if I close the info and press the 'i' button again I get the program details - I don't know if you've tried that

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35123976)
Were in my posts have I stated they don't but they do offer a free Sky+HD box to customers bar the install charge.

AFAIK Only TIVO box from Virgin will have 1TB drive - I'm sorry for misreading

clinteastman 18-11-2010 13:51

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35123967)
If I had VHD with TIVO inside and missed something on Discovery HD how would I watch it with no PVR

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35123974)
I don't agree sorry, personally I value my V+ service far more than on demand but that's just me.

Like I said ALMOST, for people that are willing to pay extra for a PVR then you have that option with V+HD.

BenMcr 18-11-2010 13:52

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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35123978)
AFAIK Only TIVO box from Virgin will have 1TB drive

The TiVo box at launch will have a 1TB, but that's all that's been announced.

I'm sure there will be more to come than just one box

alwaysabear 18-11-2010 13:53

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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35123964)
VM are striking VOD aggreements with most the important players, couple that with the ability to stream web content then you almost don't need to record the content yourself.

I agree, that is the whole point of VOD and when I had my VHD box fitted in April the techy said VOD is the future , PVR will not be required sooner or later.
I have my own PVR so decided not to go V+ as I can record more on that for the time being.

muppetman11 18-11-2010 13:56

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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35123978)
I sometimes have to press the 'i' button twice to get info on my V box - First time blank but if I close the info and press the 'i' button again I get the program details - I don't know if you've tried that

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AFAIK Only TIVO box from Virgin will have 1TB drive - I'm sorry for misreading

I wasn't comparing boxes , I was making the point with Sky if you don't want to pay top money for a 1tb box you can still have a PVR free were not many people will want V+HD boxes when they are not to be updated and the TIVO will probably be pricey at first.

Felim_Doyle 18-11-2010 14:51

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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35123964)
VM are striking VOD aggreements with most the important players, couple that with the ability to stream web content then you almost don't need to record the content yourself.

Certainly as things stand with VM's VoD, BBC iPlayer, ITV NetPlayer, 4 on Demand, Demand Five and a whole host of other ways to access programming, you are limited by copyright and contractual restrictions as to what you can watch, and for how long after the original airing date you can watch it. Without a PVR/DVR you can't set up a series to record and then watch it all, on demand, at your leisure, without download delays, for no extra fee.

Whilst I can see chargeable on demand streaming options being available to access some content, archives of every show or movie you ever wanted to see are unlikely to be available on TiVo for the foreseeable future.

That's a long way off being almost no need to record content yourself.

Having said that, I'm not sure what the current legal position is on keeping off-air recordings. IIRC there was a 48 hour limit originally when VCRs were introduced although these days the various on-line players generally allow you to download content for up to 30 days and play it for a week but that doesn't usually include films and certain other programmes.

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35123969)
Not all of ITV's channels are covered by the PSB requirement as far as I'm aware, whereas all of BBC's are

I realise that but I understood that ITV1 was covered and expected that ITV1 HD and the time-shift ITV1 +1 would be too. Wasn't there a big delay in the launch of ITV1 +1 due to advertising competition restrictions compared with the launches of ITV2, ITV3, ITV4 and their time-shift counterparts?

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35123974)
Sorry for being facetious in your rolled eyes.

The rolled eyes were a clue to use them if you are being facetious in order to avoid multiple, lengthy replies to a humorous point. Consider yourself admonished! ;)

alwaysabear 18-11-2010 15:00

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35123994)
Certainly as things stand with VM's VoD, BBC iPlayer, ITV NetPlayer, 4 on Demand, Demand Five and a whole host of other ways to access programming, you are limited by copyright and contractual restrictions as to what you can watch, and for how long after the original airing date you can watch it. Without a PVR/DVR you can't set up a series to record and then watch it all, on demand, at your leisure, without download delays, for no extra fee.

Whilst I can see chargeable on demand streaming options being available to access some content, archives of every show or movie you ever wanted to see are unlikely to be available on TiVo for the foreseeable future.

That's a long way off being almost no need to record content yourself.

Having said that, I'm not sure what the current legal position is on keeping off-air recordings. IIRC there was a 48 hour limit originally when VCRs were introduced although these days the various on-line players generally allow you to download content for up to 30 days and play it for a week but that doesn't usually include films and certain other programmes.[COLOR="Silver"]

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My understanding from my daughter who has a V+ box is that certain programs cannot be recorded on it due to copyright is this the case?

BenMcr 18-11-2010 15:04

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35124010)
My understanding from my daughter who has a V+ box is that certain programs cannot be recorded on it due to copyright is this the case?

Nope. However the are certain programmes can't be archived due to copyright issues

alwaysabear 18-11-2010 15:08

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35124011)
Nope. However the are certain programmes can't be archived due to copyright issues

So how long have you to view programs recorded if archiving is prohibited?

BenMcr 18-11-2010 15:12

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35124014)
So how long have you to view programs recorded if archiving is prohibited?

You can keep them indefinately.

alwaysabear 18-11-2010 15:21

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35124016)
You can keep them indefinately.

So what do you mean by certain programs cannot be archived due to copyright issues?

Felim_Doyle 18-11-2010 15:22

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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35123978)
I sometimes have to press the 'i' button twice to get info on my V box - First time blank but if I close the info and press the 'i' button again I get the program details - I don't know if you've tried that.

Yes, sometimes, especially just after you've changed channel, you get the information for the previous channel or no information at all. The problem I have has been going on for months and I've only observed it with CSI on Living and Living +1. It has gone off the screen now for today so I can't quote exactly but it says something like "Series about a team of Crime Scene Investigators." with no other useful information about the particular episode. The information for CSI: Miami on Living is fine and the information for CSI on other channels is too.

Anyway, that was a somewhat off-topic comment I attached to the end of a valid post so I won't carry it any further.

peterjcat 18-11-2010 15:27

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35124017)
So what do you mean by certain programs cannot be archived due to copyright issues?

Certain programs can't be copied off the V+ box due to copyright issues. They can all sit on the box for as long as you like -- in practice the 160GB limit on the box stops you from keeping programs for long.

alwaysabear 18-11-2010 15:40

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Originally Posted by peterjcat (Post 35124021)
Certain programs can't be copied off the V+ box due to copyright issues. They can all sit on the box for as long as you like -- in practice the 160GB limit on the box stops you from keeping programs for long.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Felim_Doyle 18-11-2010 16:37

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Originally Posted by DVD Cinema (Post 35120958)
Great to see Demand Five now on Virgin Media!

The Five DOG is off screen a bit though. It's set too far in the corner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ-SWITCH (Post 35121029)
If you ant got widescreen it looks nasty

I have a wide-screen CRT TV with a Pace Di4000-N V Box and the digital on-screen graphic is almost off-screen. I don't know what it would be like if the STB was switched to 4:3 or I connected my non-wide-screen TV.

Is Demand Five definitely setting the Aspect Ratio pin correctly on the SCART socket? When I was watching The Mentalist there was no obvious change in aspect ratio between the lead-in adverts ending and the programme starting and the DOG was right up against the top and left-hand edges of the tube. I assume that The Mentalist is recorded and broadcast in wide-screen and possibly even in HD where applicable.

windy 18-11-2010 17:08

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This is all getting a bit of topic now.:)

mattboothers 18-11-2010 17:32

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Originally Posted by windy (Post 35124050)
This is all getting a bit of topic now.:)

Maybe the MOD's should change the thread title to "Coming Soon To Virgin Media"

borrissey 18-11-2010 19:24

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Didn't think people had CRT tv's anymore!!

DJ-SWITCH 18-11-2010 20:11

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Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35124127)
Didn't think people had CRT tv's anymore!!

There old i ant add 1 of them seens the 90s

spiderplant 18-11-2010 20:26

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As far as I can tell, Demand Five is formatted correctly. They've just put the DOG really close to the edge of the 16:9 frame.

I bought a CRT in 2002. I reckon it's still got a good 10 to 15 years left in it. :)

1701-e 18-11-2010 21:17

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Originally Posted by peterjcat (Post 35124021)
Certain programs can't be copied off the V+ box due to copyright issues. They can all sit on the box for as long as you like -- in practice the 160GB limit on the box stops you from keeping programs for long.

Can you list those programmes because AFAIK any recording can be copied to DVD/VHS via SCART?

You cannot copy VOD programming on any STB.

kgollop 18-11-2010 22:01

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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 35124191)
Can you list those programmes because AFAIK any recording can be copied to DVD/VHS via SCART?

You cannot copy VOD programming on any STB.

Yeah can on at least some of the old V boxes. My mum used to record On Demand content to a hard drive recorder all the time before my parents got a V+.

borrissey 18-11-2010 22:50

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Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35124219)
Yeah can on at least some of the old V boxes. My mum used to record On Demand content to a hard drive recorder all the time before my parents got a V+.


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trickytree 19-11-2010 11:47

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Originally Posted by windy (Post 35124050)
This is all getting a bit of topic now.:)

It seems to me just delete all other threads and have this one as everyone seems to post what they want in here.
It seems to have gone from a thread talking about what channels will be coming soon or even going to a free for all for anything.

I think there should be a Tivo thread all of it's own but it seems it's just being bundled up in here.

Joedm45 19-11-2010 12:24

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...0455-tivo.html

Here you go, one TiVo thread for you. Unfortunately no one bothers to look in the V+ sub forum

trickytree 19-11-2010 15:15

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Originally Posted by Joedm45 (Post 35124394)
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...0455-tivo.html

Here you go, one TiVo thread for you. Unfortunately no one bothers to look in the V+ sub forum

Exactly and that is why no one has posted in there for nearly a month. It just seems the structure to this website seems to be going down the pan recently and particularly in the tv part.

You try searching for anything and most of the time it's in the coming soon thread so pick your way through pages of that.

I case it can only be encouraged by the admin/mods but I guess they are happy with how it is going.

toady 19-11-2010 17:44

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I'm happy that the news about Tivo is in this thread, its a pretty big event to Virgin TV

clinteastman 19-11-2010 18:44

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Originally Posted by toady (Post 35124478)
I'm happy that the news about Tivo is in this thread, its a pretty big event to Virgin TV

:clap: I'm with you, this may be THE best thing to happen to Virgin Media. Also there isn't really much in the way of channel news right now so, why not?

windy 19-11-2010 18:50

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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35124504)
:clap: I'm with you, this may be THE best thing to happen to Virgin Media. Also there isn't really much in the way of channel news right now so, why not?

Because it's called'coming soon to virgin tv' which means tv not the box its delivered to us by.

There are other threads about the tivo box.:)

mattboothers 19-11-2010 18:51

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Well I for one would like all the Virgin Media news posted in here as this is the only thread I read on Cable Forum

clinteastman 19-11-2010 18:57

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Originally Posted by windy (Post 35124506)
Because it's called'coming soon to virgin tv' which means tv not the box its delivered to us by.

There are other threads about the tivo box.:)

Hmmm, the new EPG will be on my TV.... So...... :angel:

windy 19-11-2010 19:18

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Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35124510)
hmmm, the new epg will be on my tv.... So...... :angel:

You know what i mean stop twisting.

BikeNutt 19-11-2010 19:54

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Originally Posted by mattboothers (Post 35124507)
Well I for one would like all the Virgin Media news posted in here as this is the only thread I read on Cable Forum

Same here...

muppetman11 19-11-2010 20:12

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No wonder the pay TV providers are getting jittery

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcas...witchover.html

The US networks aren't in favour of Google TV
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...-is-wrong.html

winkle 19-11-2010 21:26

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Regarding Premier Sports TV

read the last 2 comments

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...71334626229306

alwaysabear 19-11-2010 22:14

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Originally Posted by winkle (Post 35124547)
Regarding Premier Sports TV

read the last 2 comments

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...71334626229306

Interesting, I believe they show Hurling and Galic football ,I have missed that since setanta went bust.

EDtheRED03 20-11-2010 00:18

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35124560)
Interesting, I believe they show Hurling and Galic football ,I have missed that since setanta went bust.


Can someone post the comments as I'm a non facebook user.

I miss Blue Square Premier footie on Thursday night

WooLLsterQ 20-11-2010 00:21

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Gary Potter - And whats the latest with Virgin Media

Premier Sports - Just waiting. Offer on table.

:)

Felim_Doyle 20-11-2010 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by windy (Post 35124050)
This is all getting a bit of topic now.:)

How so? Okay, Demand Five has come to Virgin TV, so do we stop discussing it from now on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattboothers (Post 35124060)
Maybe the MOD's should change the thread title to "Coming Soon To Virgin Media"

No need on my account as Demand Five is still a Virgin TV feature, isn't it? Changing the title to "Coming Soon To Virgin Media" would imply that discussions on broadband and telephone were welcome here too. Anyway, the thread was started by Media Boy and the topic chosen accordingly. It is surely only he who should decide what his intended subject matter is for the thread and what the appropriate title should be.

If it is to do with a channel or feature of the TV delivery mechanism that is coming soon to a VM TV screen near you then it belongs here. Maybe, once something has been around a long time but still attracts a lot of discussion, it warrants it's own thread but, IMHO, I don't think that's the case with the new Demand Five just yet.

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Originally Posted by windy (Post 35124506)
Because it's called'coming soon to virgin tv' which means tv not the box its delivered to us by.

There are other threads about the tivo box.:)

Perhaps your comment was not targeted at my Demand Five post even though it was posted directly under it without out any quote to link it to another post.

Regardless, I still think that discussions on upcoming changes to the delivery mechanism be it NGTV, Nagra3, V+, V HD, TiVo, IPTV etc. are TV related and so valid topics for discussion here. Once they are established then maybe, as I said, they deserve their own thread for ongoing discussion and dissemination of further information (e.g. "hey, I found a new feature" or "how do I get it to do this?").

I refuse to post in the "Tivo" thread because the title is misspelled!!! :mad:

mattboothers 20-11-2010 13:37

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35124714)
How so? Okay, Demand Five has come to Virgin TV, so do we stop discussing it from now on?

No need on my account as Demand Five is still a Virgin TV feature, isn't it? Changing the title to "Coming Soon To Virgin Media" would imply that discussions on broadband and telephone were welcome here too. Anyway, the thread was started by Media Boy and the topic chosen accordingly. It is surely only he who should decide what his intended subject matter is for the thread and what the appropriate title should be.

If it is to do with a channel or feature of the TV delivery mechanism that is coming soon to a VM TV screen near you then it belongs here. Maybe, once something has been around a long time but still attracts a lot of discussion, it warrants it's own thread but, IMHO, I don't think that's the case with the new Demand Five just yet.

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Perhaps your comment was not targeted at my Demand Five post even though it was posted directly under it without out any quote to link it to another post.

Regardless, I still think that discussions on upcoming changes to the delivery mechanism be it NGTV, Nagra3, V+, V HD, TiVo, IPTV etc. are TV related and so valid topics for discussion here. Once they are established then maybe, as I said, they deserve their own thread for ongoing discussion and dissemination of further information (e.g. "hey, I found a new feature" or "how do I get it to do this?").

I refuse to post in the "Tivo" thread because the title is misspelled!!! :mad:

I was on about TiVo not Demand Five.

Felim_Doyle 20-11-2010 13:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mattboothers (Post 35124507)
Well I for one would like all the Virgin Media news posted in here as this is the only thread I read on Cable Forum

Quote:

Originally Posted by BikeNutt (Post 35124520)
Same here...

Are you serious? With apologies for the bluntness of my remarks but you're too damned lazy or inept to subscribe to the threads of interest to you so you expect us all to trawl through what are currently the contents of hundreds of threads and hundreds of thousands of additional posts to find what we want. Even all of the Virgin Media TV Service posts amount to the numbers I've quoted. Add in fixed phone, mobile phone, broadband, billing issues, e-mail problems etc. and I've severely underestimated how many threads and posts that comes to.

If it's coming soon or recently arrived to Virgin TV then it is valid to discuss it here. Otherwise search thoroughly to find an existing appropriate thread in which to research and discuss your topic or start a new thread for it.

clinteastman 20-11-2010 14:48

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Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35124735)
If it's coming soon or recently arrived to Virgin TV then it is valid to discuss it here. Otherwise search thoroughly to find an existing appropriate thread in which to research and discuss your topic or start a new thread for it.

So are you saying this is the right place for TiVo or not, as it's coming soon to Virgin TV? I would also like to point out that Media Boys first post has coming soon info for TiVo in it.

Maybe we should start a thread to discuss what we can discus in this thread?

mersey70 20-11-2010 15:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35124735)
Are you serious? With apologies for the bluntness of my remarks but you're too damned lazy or inept to subscribe to the threads of interest to you so you expect us all to trawl through what are currently the contents of hundreds of threads and hundreds of thousands of additional posts to find what we want. Even all of the Virgin Media TV Service posts amount to the numbers I've quoted. Add in fixed phone, mobile phone, broadband, billing issues, e-mail problems etc. and I've severely underestimated how many threads and posts that comes to.

If it's coming soon or recently arrived to Virgin TV then it is valid to discuss it here. Otherwise search thoroughly to find an existing appropriate thread in which to research and discuss your topic or start a new thread for it.

Have you been promoted to a moderator? Let them decide what is appropriate, they have also asked us time and time again not to embolden text as that would indicate a moderators edit or decision.

dsmuk 20-11-2010 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35124735)
Are you serious? With apologies for the bluntness of my remarks but you're too damned lazy or inept to subscribe to the threads of interest to you so you expect us all to trawl through what are currently the contents of hundreds of threads and hundreds of thousands of additional posts to find what we want. Even all of the Virgin Media TV Service posts amount to the numbers I've quoted. Add in fixed phone, mobile phone, broadband, billing issues, e-mail problems etc. and I've severely underestimated how many threads and posts that comes to.

If it's coming soon or recently arrived to Virgin TV then it is valid to discuss it here. Otherwise search thoroughly to find an existing appropriate thread in which to research and discuss your topic or start a new thread for it.

I agree. Would much rather a Tivo thread and all that news stuck in there. This thread has already been about what content was becoming available. If no new content is coming soon that let it drop down the forum, at least then I would know nothing new was coming.

As it is people discuss anything and everything in this thread.

(apologies for adding to the drivel in this thread!)

zantarous 20-11-2010 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35124774)
Have you been promoted to a moderator? Let them decide what is appropriate, they have also asked us time and time again not to embolden text as that would indicate a moderators edit or decision.

The MODs closed the TiVo preview thread because "it was already being discussed in the coming soon thread. "

Lew 20-11-2010 17:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Unless people wish to start receiving infractions these arguments need to stop now or move to PMs.

Felim_Doyle 20-11-2010 20:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clinteastman (Post 35124763)
So are you saying this is the right place for TiVo or not, as it's coming soon to Virgin TV? I would also like to point out that Media Boys first post has coming soon info for TiVo in it.

Maybe we should start a thread to discuss what we can discus in this thread?

It's Media Boy's thread so he should decide and, as you point out, he too makes announcements regarding technology such as TiVo in 'Post One'. So I am saying that, like a channel that is coming soon, TiVo can, IMHO, be discussed here. Admittedly some of the discussion so far has been detailed speculation on how it might work when it arrives but we've always had that.

If you mention a sports channel, we get discussion on footie, wrestling, american football, basketball etc. but nobody seems to complain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35124774)
Have you been promoted to a moderator? Let them decide what is appropriate, they have also asked us time and time again not to embolden text as that would indicate a moderators edit or decision.

I was simply stating my understanding of what constitutes 'Coming Soon to Virgin TV' and my opinion on what I believe belongs in this thread. There is nothing to suggest that it relates solely to channels (in the traditional sense) or content and, even if it did, as TiVo will bring new content in the form of channels, movies, archives, web content (e.g. IMDb, YouTube etc.) it is valid to discuss what and how it might deliver these. If you exclude TiVo on the basis of this thread being only for channels coming, going or changing, you would have to exclude On Demand, Search, HD, Red Button and a whole host of other things that are not related to plain vanilla TV channels.

I am not aware of any restriction on the use of the highlighting features of the forum software (e.g. bold, italic, underline or colour) in order to clarify a post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35124856)
Unless people wish to start receiving infractions these arguments need to stop now or move to PMs.

Lew, that isn't particularly helpful. People still don't know if they should or should not submit posts regarding TiVo. PMs will not determine whether or not the majority of people wish the advent of TiVo to be discussed in this thread. By all means please express your own opinion on the matter as a user or take a stance as a moderator and set up a poll thread to decide whether TiVo and other non-vanilla flavoured items like those I mentioned above are valid for discussion here.

As it happens, TiVo is a long way off for me so, for now, I'm just defending the right to discuss it's potential impact on our viewing experience in the future.

---------- Post added at 19:07 ---------- Previous post was at 18:57 ----------

Oh, and one more thing, if anyone just wants the succinct version of what and when things are happening there's always the Virgin Media Changelog to check on.

Lew 20-11-2010 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35124944)
Lew, that isn't particularly helpful. People still don't know if they should or should not submit posts regarding TiVo. PMs will not determine whether or not the majority of people wish the advent of TiVo to be discussed in this thread. By all means please express your own opinion on the matter as a user or take a stance as a moderator and set up a poll thread to decide whether TiVo and other non-vanilla flavoured items like those I mentioned above are valid for discussion here.

I'm pretty sure I was perfectly clear that I was referring to the bickering and arguments.

heavyside 21-11-2010 07:21

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I, for one, read this thread regularly and am very interested in everything related to Virgin Media TV - upcoming programmes, TiVo, picture quality and all the related stuff. Too often it's just a bunch of people complaining or slagging off Virgin. More info on everything and anything that's coming soon to Virgin Media, please!

johnasimmons 21-11-2010 09:28

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
:clap:

Henkesghost 21-11-2010 10:37

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Someone posted that the red button match choice option was coming to virgin in January, is that definate?

Oh and anyone heard anything about that Tivo thingy;)

richard1960 21-11-2010 10:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35125161)
Someone posted that the red button match choice option was coming to virgin in January, is that definate?

Oh and anyone heard anything about that Tivo thingy;)

Yes Red Button on sky sports is due in 2011 rumoured to be in january, although i hope as a cricket fan its more then just a football match choice option,its one of those things that will just turn up one morning i suppose although i think media boy did mention january.

As for TiVo i thought they were going to do a soft launch with a few customers this side of christmas, with a full rollout in the new year,as for the price well i think nobody knows what that will be as of yet.

Media Boy UK 21-11-2010 11:46

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Tivo to launch in March???

An insider told me over the weekend that new tivo boxes will be released in March.

muppetman11 21-11-2010 11:54

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125193)
Tivo to launch in March???

An insider told me over the weekend that new tivo boxes will be released in March.

March that's a while off .

Media Boy UK 21-11-2010 12:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35125202)
March that's a while off .

I think they was on about ''to launch'' on all areas.

howardmicks 21-11-2010 12:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125193)
Tivo to launch in March???

An insider told me over the weekend that new tivo boxes will be released in March.

It is new technology so its no point being rushed,Think 3 months to get in all areas is a result.Least then hopefully early teething problems will have been sorted,I want one but only when i know its in fully working order and of course the price is right

Media Boy UK 21-11-2010 12:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35123969)
Not all of ITV's channels are covered by the PSB requirement as far as I'm aware, whereas all of BBC's are

Where is BBC ALBA on the Virgin EPG then?

nialli 21-11-2010 13:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125251)
Where is BBC ALBA on the Virgin EPG then?

It has programmes in BBC iPlayer on Virgin I've noticed.

Media Boy UK 21-11-2010 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35125262)
It has programmes in BBC iPlayer on Virgin I've noticed.

I was on about an full channel launch like BBC One HD.

devilincarnate 21-11-2010 13:45

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125193)
Tivo to launch in March???

An insider told me over the weekend that new tivo boxes will be released in March.

Sounds intresting? Could they be launching it in the same areas as the 100meg BB at the same time:confused:

nialli 21-11-2010 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125265)
I was on about an full channel launch like BBC One HD.

Just posted it in case there were any out there looking for certain Alba programmes.

lawe 21-11-2010 13:54

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If the Tivo release means a uk wide launch with plenty of stock available then hooray! But on the other habd... I WANT IT NOW :D (sorry for shouting!!)

Felim_Doyle 21-11-2010 14:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35123969)
Not all of ITV's channels are covered by the PSB requirement as far as I'm aware, whereas all of BBC's are

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125251)
Where is BBC ALBA on the Virgin EPG then?

I have always thought that PSB only applied to BBC1, BBC2, ITV1, Channel 4, S4C and Five (i.e. basically the channels traditionally available on analogue terrestrial TV) although with Digital Switch-Over that may be changing (see link).

Public service broadcasting in the United Kingdom

MB, are we waiting for your Christmas picture or a Thanksgiving turkey?

Media Boy UK 21-11-2010 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35125314)
MB, are we waiting for your Christmas picture or a Thanksgiving turkey?[/I]

I will be putting up my Christmas picture on December 1st.

mattboothers 21-11-2010 15:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125317)
I will be putting up my Christmas picture on December 1st.

:D Coming Soon caption for your Xmas Poster. Sick of things being coming soon :D

vanman 21-11-2010 20:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125193)
Tivo to launch in March???

An insider told me over the weekend that new tivo boxes will be released in March.

got this from the sofa forum
Quote:

Tivo
The general registration site will go live in Dec after our official press announcement and I'll be sure to update you then. Apologies for any confusion

indie1982 21-11-2010 20:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125193)
Tivo to launch in March???

An insider told me over the weekend that new tivo boxes will be released in March.

Boxes will be released in December, not all features will be enabled initially, everything should be functional by March.

VirginMediaPhil 21-11-2010 21:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by indie1982 (Post 35125485)
Boxes will be released in December, not all features will be enabled initially, everything should be functional by March.

What does that mean? "Here's your new TiVo box! However unfortunately for some reason we can't have everything ready until March, like recording programmes, or watching TV channels. Enjoy your box anyway!" :p

Actually, does this mean stuff like Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down and Wish Lists?

Media Boy UK 21-11-2010 21:47

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Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin TV network.

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this list is subject to change.

BOLD = New

Colours on my list are as followed:

Media Boy = New Info just added.
Media Boy = Virgin Media News.
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: = It an Media Boy EXCLUSIVE and you can only see it on my Blog or on this thread.
Media Boy = Other Media news.

=== Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV ===
=== November ===
1st. Watch and Watch +1 will be available for free to all customers on Virgin Channels 124 and 125 until November 29th.
1st. Alibi and Alibi +1 will be available for free to all customers on Virgin Channels 130 and 131 until November 29th.
1st. Blighty will be available for free to all customers on Virgin Channel 206 until November 29th.
1st. Good Food and Good Food +1 will be available for free to all customers on Virgin Channels 260 and 261 until November 29th.
1st. Home and Home +1 will be available for free to all customers on Virgin Channels 265 and 266 until November 29th.
1st. Really will be available for free to all customers on Virgin Channel 267 until November 29th.
15th. True Movies 1 will be available for free to all customers on Virgin Channel 424 until January 5th 2011.
Ginx may become available on Virgin Media sometime this month. (Info from jamiec21).

=== December ===
1st. Virgin Media to cut prices of some Asia packages.
1st. ZING and Zee Punjabi will become available on Virgin Media in old Telewest areas.
1st. NBC on Demand to launch on Virgin on Demand.
1st. Sky Movies Showcase and Sky Movies Showcase HD will be rebrand as Sky Movies Christmas and Sky Movies Christmas HD on Virgin Channels 403 and 433.
1st. Movies 24 will be rebrand as Christmas 24 on Virgin Channel 419.
1st. GOLD will be available for free to all customers on Virgin Channels 126 and 127 this month.
1st. Phoenix CNE will close on Virgin Channel 833 in Ex-ntl areas.
Virgin Media will introduce TiVo co-branded set-top boxes (In some areas).


[B]=== 1st Quarter 2011 ===
LIVING, LIVING +1 and LIVING HD will be rebranded as Sky Living, Sky Living +1 and Sky Living HD on Virign Channels 109, 111 and 110.
LIVINGit and LIVINGit +1 will be rebranded as Sky Livingit and Sky Livingit +1 on Virgin Channels 112 and 160.
LIVING Loves will be rebranded as Sky Living Loves on Virgin Channel 159.
An channel will be getting new broadcasting hours.
BSkyB are to close Bravo, Bravo +1, Bravo 2, Channel One and Channel One +1.


=== January 2011 ===
3rd. Coming Soon to Virgin TV 2011 Vol. I launches today.
3rd. Bravo Player and Channel One Player will be remove on Virgin Media.
5th. Sky Movies Christmas and Sky Movies Christmas HD will be rebrand as Sky Movies Showcase and Sky Movies Showcase HD on Virgin Channels 403 and 433.

=== February 2011 ===
No News...

=== March 2011 ===
Virgin Media will introduce TiVo co-branded set-top boxes (In all areas).

=== April 2011 ===
No News...

=== May 2011 ===
No News...

=== June 2011 ===
No News...

=== July 2011 ===
No News...

=== August 2011 ===
No News...

=== September 2011 ===
No News...

=== October 2011 ===
No News...

=== November 2011 ===
No News...

=== December 2011 ===
No News...

=== Before 2012 ===
-Northern & Shell may rebrand Fiver and Five USA.
-Disney/ABC Television Group is to rebrand Playhouse Disney as Disney Junior on Virgin Channel 727.
-The BBC will close BBC Asian Network.
-The BBC will rebrand BBC Radio 7 as BBC Radio 4 Extra.
-Sky Sports red button interactive service.

=== Unknown dates ===
-BBC to add 21 hours per week to their HD Channel on Virgin Channel 187.
-Diva TV will be rebranded as Diva Universal on Virgin Channel 164.
-Virgin Media will cease all analogue television transmissions.
-UKTV on demand will launch.
-BBC iPlayer will offer subtitled content.
-Cinemoi will launch on Virgin Media.
-Channel 4's ''4oD'' will offer HD content.
-Sky Arts 1 HD and Sky Arts 2 HD will become available on Virgin Media.
-Virgin Media will introduce an enhanced TV interface

=== The following channels are rumoured to be launching or in talks with Virgin Media (But still not confirm by Insiders) ===
-BBC ALBA.
-KidsCo.
-BET.
-BET +1.
-Comedy Central Extra +1.
-NickToons Replay.
-Russia Today
-Quest +1.
-ITV1 +1 (England and Wales only).
-Pop Girl.
-Squirt FM.
-Eden +1.
-Eden HD.
-Good Food HD.
-Yesterday +1.
-MGM HD.
-Disney Cinemagic HD.
-Disney XD HD.
-Rush HD.
-HISTORY HD.
-Bio HD.
-Crime & Investigation Network HD.
-Nat Geo Wild HD.
-Universal Channel HD
-Luxury Life HD.
-Sky Atlantic.
-Sky Atlantic HD.
-CBS Drama.
-ESPN2 (May launch in 2011).
-ESPN America HD.
-ESPN News (May launch in 2011).
-ITV2 HD.
-ITV3 HD.
-ITV4 HD.
-Vintage TV.


=== Channels THAT still to appear in all areas ===
List was last updated on November 1st 2010.

NO. Channel Name
811. ZING*
812. Zee Punjabi*
917. Radio: RTE Radio**
920. Radio: WRN Europe**

* = Channels are not broadcasting in Ex-Telewest areas right now,
** = Channels are only broadcasting in Ex-Telewest areas right now.

=== Media Boy Thinks: ===
Virgin will keep the following Channels:
ZEE channels

====== Media Boy Information =====
Media Boy - giving out information for FREE on Cable Forum.
Media Boy is part of ''Media Boy Family''.

=== Media Boy Blogs & Extra TV info: ===
Virgin Media Blogs:
See My Virgin TV Blog here - http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com/
See Virgin Media on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
See latest news about Virgin on Demand via ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/vmondemand
See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/

=== Ask Media Boy ===
Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM?
A: I get all my info from Virgin Media workers (NOTE: I called them ''An Insider''), Virgin Media viewers, my blogs and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: I HAVE GOT NEWS BUT I WORK FOR VIRGIN MEDIA AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO SEE MY USER NAME?
A: All you need to do is pm me right now and tell me and I will post your news on ''Coming soon to Virgin TV'' for you.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''CHANNEL Z'' FOR?
A: Some channels are only in some areas - Zing is only in Ex-ntl and Ex-Cable & Wireless areas but Ex-Telewest area have got RTE Radio.

Q: NOW THAT BSKYB HAS TOOK OVER VIRGIN MEDIA TELEVISION WILL ANY CHANNELS CLOSE ON VIRGIN TV?
A: Yes Bravo and Channel One will close soon. But us Virgin Media viewers will see some channels moving about as we have now got Sky1 HD and will be getting Sky Arts 1 HD and Sky Arts 2 HD sometime before 2011.

==== Deals with broadcasters ===
When deals with broadcasters run out Virgin Media need to sign new one to keep that Channel on Virgin TV.

Here is an list of channel that Virgin may get when they old deal runs out with that broadcaster:

NOTE: To start broadcasting soon = That channel has still to start broadcasting on Sky, Freesat or Freeview.


=== SD and Radio Channels: ===
=== Own by AETN UK ===
Bio HD
Crime & Investigation Network HD
Crime & Investigation Network +1
HISTORY HD
HISTORY +1

=== Own by ABC Television Group ===
Disney Cinemagic HD
Disney Cinemagic +1
Disney Junior + (Soon to start broadcasting).
Disney XD HD
Playhouse Disney + (Soon to be rebranded as Disney Junior +)

=== Own by ARY Group ===
ARY News
QTV ARY

=== Own by BSkyB ===
Sky 3D
Sky 3 +1
Sky Arts 1 HD
Sky Arts 2 HD
Sky Atlantic (Soon to start broadcasting.)
Sky Atlantic HD (Soon to start broadcasting.)
Sky Movies Classic HD
Sky News HD
Sky Sports HD3
Sky Sports HD4
Sky Sports News HD

=== Own by CBS International and Chello Zone ===
CBS Action
CBS Drama
CBS Reality +1
Horror Channel +1

=== Own by Channel 4 Television Corporation ===
More 4 +1

=== Own by CSC Media Group ===
Bliss
Chart Show TV
Dance Nation TV
Flava
Kix!
NME TV
Pop Girl
Pop Girl +1
Scuzz
The Vault
Tiny Pop +1
True Enterainment
True Movies 2

=== Own by Discovery Networks Europe ===
Animal Planet +1
Discovery Home & Health +1
Discovery Knowledge +1
Discovery Science +1
DMAX +1
DMAX +2
Investigation Discovery
TLC (To start broadcast in the UK in 2011.)
Quest +1

=== Own by ESPN Inc. (The Walt Disney Company/Hearst Corporation) ===
ESPN2 (May launch in 2011)
ESPN America HD
ESPN News (May launch in 2011)

=== Own by GMG Radio ===
Real Radio

=== Own by Independent Media Corporation ===
AAG
GEO News
GEO UK

=== Own by ITV Digital Channels Ltd ===
ITV1 +1 (Soon to start broadcasting in England and Wales areas only.)
ITV2 HD
ITV3 HD
ITV4 HD

=== Own by MGM Channel (UK) Limited (BSkyB and MGM) ===
MGM HD

=== Own by NBC Universal Global Networks ===
Diva TV +1
Universal Channel HD

=== Own by NBC Universal, Corus Entertainment, Cookie Jar Group ===
Kids Co (Soon to start broadcasting.)

=== Own by NGC Europe Limited ===
FX +1
Nat Wild HD

=== Own by Rainbow Media ===
Rush HD
Sundance Channel HD

=== Own by Scripps Networks Interactive (Run by Chello Zone) ===
Food Network
Food Network HD (Soon to start broadcasting).
Food Network +1

=== Own by Sony ===
NOTE: The following channels will become part of the ''ViewAsia'' package if Sony can sign an new deal Virgin Media:
ARY Digital^
B4U Movies^
Colors
MAX^
SAB
Sahara One
SET Asia^

^ = On Virgin Media right now.

=== Own by STAR TV ===
STAR Gold
STAR One

=== TIML Radio Limited ===
Absolute 90s

=== Own by Turner Broadcasting System Europe ===
TCM 2

=== Own by Twenty Four 7 Ltd. ===
Luxury Life
Luxury Life HD

=== Own by UKTV ===
Eden HD
Eden +1
Good Food HD
YeSTERDAY +1

=== Own by Viacom ===
BET
BET +1
Comedy Central Extra +1
MTV Classics
MTV Shows
MTV +1
Nickelodeon HD
NickToons Replay

=== Own by Zee Entertainment Enterprises ===
ZEE Cafe

DJ-SWITCH 22-11-2010 01:20

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-BBC ALBA.
-KidsCo.
-BET.
-BET +1.
-Comedy Central Extra +1.
-NickToons Replay.
-Russia Today
-Quest +1.
-ITV1 +1 (England and Wales only).
-Pop Girl.
-Squirt FM.
-Eden +1.
-Eden HD.
-Good Food HD.
-Yesterday +1.
-MGM HD.
-Disney Cinemagic HD.
-Disney XD HD.
-Rush HD.
-HISTORY HD.
-Bio HD.
-Crime & Investigation Network HD.
-Nat Geo Wild HD.
-Universal Channel HD
-Luxury Life HD.
-Sky Atlantic.
-Sky Atlantic HD.
-CBS Drama.
-ESPN2 (May launch in 2011).
-ESPN America HD.
-ESPN News (May launch in 2011).
-ITV2 HD.
-ITV3 HD.
-ITV4 HD.
-Vintage TV.

Thats all good news about the channels here, its going be a good year in 2011 :):):dunce::dunce:

vanman 22-11-2010 01:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ-SWITCH (Post 35125714)
Thats all good news about the channels here, its going be a good year in 2011 :):):dunce::dunce:

well i suppose with the recession as it is we are going to need all these channels as less and less people go out and stay at home watching the tv.

Felim_Doyle 22-11-2010 08:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35125317)
I will be putting up my Christmas picture on December 1st.

Perhaps, in the meantime, you should display Test Card F until normal service is resumed. :)

Hersee ...

http://www.barney-wol.net/video/test...can_medium.jpg

and Hear'Say ...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/11/29.jpg

indie1982 22-11-2010 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35125522)
What does that mean? "Here's your new TiVo box! However unfortunately for some reason we can't have everything ready until March, like recording programmes, or watching TV channels. Enjoy your box anyway!" :p

Actually, does this mean stuff like Thumbs Up/Thumbs Down and Wish Lists?

Pretty much, box will launch with a basic TiVo service this year, things like dedicated smart phone remote record apps will come early 2011.

Felim_Doyle 22-11-2010 09:52

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I would imagine also that contracts with providers will be in negotiation for some time so some content will not initially be available.

spankysmagicpian 22-11-2010 10:04

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I'm a bit concerned about the possible pricing. The US site states a purchase price (fair enough) and then $20 a month subs for it.

indie1982 22-11-2010 10:50

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
The cable TV market in the US works very differently to the UK. In the US you can "bring your own" cable box, you buy a CableCard from the cable company and plug it into your own box.

Obviously there's still some cost to Virgin Media but there is with any box they provide, we'll still end up paying some sort of fee to get the TiVo hardware but it won't be hundreds of pounds.

TiVo provide all of the EPG and back end services, there will still be a monthly cost for this, whether VM include it in the XL package and others pay a couple of quid a month is yet to be seen!

muppetman11 22-11-2010 12:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by indie1982 (Post 35125799)
The cable TV market in the US works very differently to the UK. In the US you can "bring your own" cable box, you buy a CableCard from the cable company and plug it into your own box.

Obviously there's still some cost to Virgin Media but there is with any box they provide, we'll still end up paying some sort of fee to get the TiVo hardware but it won't be hundreds of pounds.

TiVo provide all of the EPG and back end services, there will still be a monthly cost for this, whether VM include it in the XL package and others pay a couple of quid a month is yet to be seen!

They will have to otherwise take up will be low who wants to pay say 150 for.the box and 10 a month sub. There will be other companies this year offering internet connected boxes like Google Tv , youview etc.

tweedie 22-11-2010 12:20

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Squirt FM sounds interesting....

muppetman11 22-11-2010 13:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35125782)
I'm a bit concerned about the possible pricing. The US site states a purchase price (fair enough) and then $20 a month subs for it.

Trust me mate them sort of pricing models here in the UK would make TIVO a massive flop. Don't forget Virgins main competitor now offer a Sky+HD box for free granted if you want the 1tb Sky+HD box you have to pay 249 up front but there's no monthly sub for the box.

BenMcr 22-11-2010 13:07

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35125859)
but there's no monthly sub for the box.

There is if you want HD which would be the main reason for getting a 1TB box

muppetman11 22-11-2010 13:27

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35125860)
There is if you want HD which would be the main reason for getting a 1TB box

There is with Virgin for sky premium HD and my comment was with regards to the hardware.

batchain 22-11-2010 13:34

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35125859)
Trust me mate them sort of pricing models here in the UK would make TIVO a massive flop. Don't forget Virgins main competitor now offer a Sky+HD box for free

Virgin also offer a low cost or free HD DVR.

Free Sky+HD box, with free standard set-up when you join Sky online with the HD Pack.

Free Sky+ box (£30 set-up) when you join Sky TV online with Sky Broadband and Talk, Sky Movies or Sky Sports, otherwise £49 plus £30 set-up.


Virgin Media - 6 months half price on our most popular bundles
V+ box - £49
Installation - Free
£50 credit on triple bundles
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granted if you want the 1tb Sky+HD box you have to pay 249 up front but there's no monthly sub for the box.
Without an ongoing monthly sub the box becomes a standard HD digibox with no DVR functionality. HD is extra and Anytime+ requires additional subscription services on top.

muppetman11 22-11-2010 13:41

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What use is a Virgin box with no sub does it even work, my point was you don't pay a fee for the DVR function you pay for the HD channels which you do with Virgin if u take sky premium HD and if there was a monthly fee for TIVO this would be extra.

batchain 22-11-2010 13:43

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35125870)
There is with Virgin for sky premium HD

Only with Sky premium HD. Not for basic pay HD, ESPN HD, PictureBox HD or PPV HD.
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and my comment was with regards to the hardware.
The hardware is only free if you take HD mix, otherwise £30 to £79 depending on your bundle. HD mix is extra, Anytime+ is extra and without an ongoing monthly sub that Sky 1TB HD DVR which you just bought for £250 is nothing more than a standard non-DVR digibox which can pick up a half dozen FTA HD channels and delivers poor quality SD.

muppetman11 22-11-2010 13:47

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Originally Posted by batchain (Post 35125879)
Only with Sky premium HD. Not for basic pay HD, ESPN HD, PictureBox HD or PPV HD.

The hardware is only free if you take HD mix, otherwise £30 to £79 depending on your bundle. HD mix is extra, Anytime+ is extra and without an ongoing monthly sub that Sky 1TB HD DVR which you just bought for £250 is nothing more than a standard non-DVR digibox which can pick up a half dozen FTA HD channels and delivers poor quality SD.

It's not rocket science if you buy a 1tb sky box that you have to take a package jeez. You can buy a HD box for 79.00 and take 1 sky mix and get free DVR functions with cable you pay for this function unless your on XL.

batchain 22-11-2010 14:11

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35125876)
What use is a Virgin box with no sub does it even work,

It's not yours to use without a sub. With Sky you have to buy the box and also pay a monthly sub to use it as intended.
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my point was you don't pay a fee for the DVR function you pay for the HD channels which you do with Virgin if u take sky premium HD
You said the 1TB Sky+HD box was £249 up front but there's no monthly sub for the box - without a monthly sub you have a very expensive non-DVR FTA HD box.

The vast majority of Virgin Media subscribers don't take Sky premium HD, they don't need to take Sky premium HD to get a low cost V+ HD box. With Sky the so-called 'free' HD box you refer to requires a monthly HD subscription on top of your basic TV package.
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and if there was a monthly fee for TIVO this would be extra.
TiVo is a premium service, there is no comparable offering available in the UK and even with an additional monthly sub it would still be competitively priced with a certain inferior rival pay tv service which charges up to £250 for a 1TB box, extra for HD and ESPN, requires additional services for its AnyTime+ progressive download offering and then caps usage to a few hours per month for those with the basic broadband bundle.

muppetman11 22-11-2010 14:20

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I actually meant no sub for the DVR function if you take a Sky mix. Anyway my point is this if Virgin charge over say 200 upfront and a sub of say 10.00 a month it will flop. I personally want a TIVO but would not pay that kind of pricing model. It has to be one or the other upfront or monthly.

batchain 22-11-2010 14:31

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35125885)
It's not rocket science if you buy a 1tb sky box that you have to take a package jeez.

You said its £249 with no monthly fee. What you didn't say is that without a monthly fee it no longer works as a DVR even though you own the box.
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You can buy a HD box for 79.00 and take 1 sky mix and get free DVR functions with cable you pay for this function unless your on XL.
1 Sky mix costs £19.50 while a Virgin basic TV pack costs £12.50 or as little as £6.50 if you a have a Virgin land line. You can activate a V HD box for no aditional monthly fee or add a V+ HD DVR for £5 and still pay less than 1 Sky Mix. You also get access to Catch Up VOD at no extra cost and if you have a V HD or V+ HD box a better selection of HD than Sky basic mixes without the HD sub.

clinteastman 22-11-2010 14:44

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I was going to post this in the TiVo Preview thread but it's locked.

Hopefully we get a Virgin Media version of this:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/22/t...-app-for-ipad/


Also the US TiVo pricing structure has nothing to do with ours. There your TiVos customer, here VM are TiVos customer. Your not going to be paying TiVo anything.

muppetman11 22-11-2010 14:48

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Originally Posted by batchain (Post 35125912)
You said its £249 with no monthly fee. What you didn't say is that without a monthly fee it no longer works as a DVR even though you own the box.

1 Sky mix costs £19.50 while a Virgin basic TV pack costs £12.50 or as little as £6.50 if you a have a Virgin land line. You can activate a V HD box for no aditional monthly fee or add a V+ HD DVR for £5 and still pay less than 1 Sky Mix. You also get access to Catch Up VOD at no extra cost and if you have a V HD or V+ HD box a better selection of HD than Sky basic mixes without the HD sub.

If this pricing structure is adopted and you pay say 200 for the box and 10.00 a month that would mean you would have to pay 320.00 in year 1 for a rented box mmmm that sounds value.


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