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Or an everton fan ;)

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The only difference between the Gerrard tackle and what Rafael did a couple of minutes earlier was Gerrard caught the player. Definitely a card incident but red... i'm not so sure.

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Easily a red card. Not just by the letter of the law but also in the sprit. Players can get serious injured in those challenges. Gerrard threw himself into it with no care.

Great set of saves from Reina. Liverpool not doing bad considering they are down to 10 men.

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United 1 - Liverpool 0

Liverpool can probably be happy with this game. Lost to 1 goal which was a very dubious penalty decision and otherwise held out well against United, especially when down to 10 men.

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Also gerrard dived in studs up and rafael pulled out of his challenge. The two challenges can't really be compared imo.

The penalty was dubious but he did touch berbatov so it was always going to be given regardless of how easily he went down.

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Gerrard lunged in, studs showing.

The replays show that Rafael didn't lunge in, studs showing. He kept his feet down.

Oh well.. :D

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United probably edged the game overall.

There's alot of lower league sides will have wanted them to be in the draw shortly, let's hope one of them gets lucky. :)

<edit> RESULT!! :D

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No outstanding ties in the next round. Fulham vs Spurs probably the highlight of the round.

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Eeek, city down by a goal after less than a minute :doh:

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Another cracking motm performance by Howard Webb. Missed out on putting away the rebound from Evans's header, shame on him.

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Both feet off the ground is a red, some would have given a yellow but Webb didn't.

That said, and the weak penalty decision I'm not that dissappointed in our performance today. 10 men for most of the game, yet still attacking and Reina made 5 saves consecutively (the man is pure class), Kelly looked good too :clap:

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Was a decent performance, very pleased with the level of effort overall although Raul and Nando both had a bit of a shocker... and Stevie what were you thinking lad? there's just that niggling streak of indiscipline in his game which it seems will always be present.

Looks like the arrival of Steve Clarke as Kenny's assistant is imminent which is a pretty significant appointment based on his previous good work at Chelsea.

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Old Roy won some thing then, the sack race... :D

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Ryan Babel is trying to get himself into trouble....

His Pics

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You would have thought being a **** player Babel would have learnt to be gracious in defeat by now, obviously not...

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Indeed

Don't the same rules apply to players and managers?

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Being gracious in defeat by Alex Ferguson

available at a bookstore near you

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Surprised that he doesn't get taken to court by the Liverpool fans for plagiarism ;)

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there all over lfc facebook as well and we are all right behide him.

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This just gets better and better ;) :D

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these are the pics going around of the ref from today man u vs liverpool after the game.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._6468714_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...20_53750_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7419857_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7932244_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7755647_n.jpg

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Like I said, this Is just getting better and better by the minute ;) :D

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I thought us United fans were meant to be bad losers :D

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Thats why you usually get 10 minutes added on at the end.:D

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But, but, but in that 10 minutes, both teams can take the opportunity to score, not just United ;)

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No that 10 minutes is purely for united all the refs know that!!:D

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Nah, that's just a myth that bad losers wheel out when Utd beat them ;) :D

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The old myths are the best ones.:D

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If it makes you feel better ;) :D

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http://community.manutd.com/forums/p...0/1331883.aspx

And according to those 'hardcore' fans they don't care he cheated.

Anyhows, if i was Fungus Face I'd be asking why they didn't make more of the 10 man side :shrug:

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Nor do most fans. The constant feigning of surprise and disgust when a player dives is getting tiresome. Players go down all the time when there is contact, every single club does it.

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I remember seeing Maxi do it recently and I was not impressed. So while some find it tiresome, I'm sorry but i still find it wrong and unprofessional.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ol/9353787.stm

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I do love it when the player goes down like they been hit by a Barrett Sniper rifle when at most they got a slight tap against the arm or leg.

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Except when hit by a .50 round they tend to fall down in more than one piece!!!

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thats true....

All the teams have them...and I just wish that the refs would be harsher or better in spotting the falling down act and have video evidence for the FA when ref doesnt do anything and punish the player with a 3 match ban.

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so should Theo now be punished for admitting he dived....?

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I do find it annoying that fans ignore the fact that their team more than likely have benefited from dodgy ref decisions in the past and not said anything and then kick up a fuss when the decision goes against them.

Unfortunately, every team seems to do it and until it sorted throughout football, it will continue and no, I don't condone it.

Yes he did make the most of the tackle, but I do believe that the red card was correct.

I was slightly annoyed with Kuyt getting Fletcher booked, but I've not doctored a photo of Webb in a Liverpool shirt ;)

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If you read my post then you'd know I wouldn't condone it whether it be my team or not - a cheat is a cheat.

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Only if other players, like Berbatov, are punished as well.

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I did read your post and my point is that most fans seem to ignore what their team do and then kick up a fuss when something goes against them (as seen this weekend).

That's just one of my pet moans.

I think that the first step is to acknowledge that this is widespread.

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Is this the best goal of the year?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...sh/9151660.stm

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It is and its a sad state of affairs :(

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Berbatov should get punished for just being Berbatov.

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Russ we all know you would love to have berbatovs poster on your wall ;) you have said so yourself quite a few times that you love him :p:

and Pog yeah totally any diver should be suspended for 3 matches thats the only way to get rid of the problem.

Problem with that is that some teams wouldnt have strikers or midfielders left within 2 games.

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It is difficult for referees, especially with incidents like yesterdays when the player did get touched by the defender. Deciding whether the contact is enough for the player to be put off balance and go down is whats difficult, even when seeing replays. But its something that players are expected to do now, if you feel contact, go down.

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Yesterday's game aside it's about time something was done about referees who feel that they have to be the centre of attention even if the decisions they make fly in face of common sense or are just blatantly wrong. Webb falls squarely into this category just as the likes of Uriah Rennie and Keith Winter did before him.

How a referee who allowed blatant acts of violence and thuggery to go unpunished during a world cup final is still officiating at any level is beyond me. All referees have a bad day at some point and make mistakes but this bloke takes the biscuit: you can bet your bottom dollar that something controversial is going to happen as soon as you see his name on the back of the programme.

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Rangers VS Celtic in Round 5 of Scottish Cup.

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Wow, that's pretty special, they hardly ever meet. And in such a prestigious tournament too, i can't wait!

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English elitism does not become you.

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English elitism? You couldn't be more wrong.

Rest of the world elitism is much closer though.

Scottish football is a joke. You know. I know it. They know it. And the Old Firm are probably the main reason why.

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Too true. Absolute garbage.

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Leeds vs. Huddersfield Town... ;)

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I think I was right the first time.

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Scottish Football isn't exactly great. He is right as well. Celtic and Rangers meet all the time and it's incredibly boring now. Will there be a total of 5 matches between them this season? No one takes the Scottish League too seriously outside of Scotland and it's influence diminishes further every season.

This isn't English elitism either. Look at my posting history, look at Niles history as well, and you'll find many expressions of disgust at the reaction of English football commentators towards the Premier League, the England team, and other leagues.

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Incidentally I got a ticket for Arsenal vs Barcelona! WOOP!

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Cool, thats a game I wouldn't mind going to. Is it right that UEFA set prices for CL games?

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I dunno. Arsenal is always expensive anyway :erm: It's the same cost as if it were a United game though so I imagine not! They do prevent alcohol being served and due to sponsorship issues they call the stadium 'Arsenal Stadium'. Which is weird. All the boards have to be UEFA sponsors and the logo banner has to go across the stadium inbetween the tiers.

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Dalglish must be sacked...he's had plenty of time to turn it round ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A79631373

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The kind of fan we don't need :rolleyes:

Its going to take time, and even after two losses the team have got a bit more fighting spirit about them so I'm not complaining. Its been a very strange season not only for us, but many teams :)

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went to the liverpool game last night same we lost to a crap team.but i got to get the autographs of some of the players. torres goal was great lets hope kenny has put him back on track as it seems he has so far. the best thing ever was to bring KING kenny back hope he there next season as well

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I could not agree more. I was skeptical at first, I didn't think that KING Kenny was right for Liverpool! Didn't think he understood the Kop or the club but I have to say, 2 defeats out of 2, he clearly is living up to the Liverpool tradition. :D

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Pity the new coaching team have had more away matches to deal with than they've had training sessions. If Kenny and Steve Clarke can coach the ill-discipline and negativity instilled by Hodgson and the idiot Kelly out of that side then they're better men than most.

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Well he is not a miracle worker and it will take more than a week to fix the team, also remember your showing against Ipswich.;)

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Crap team? A bit strong that. They've actually been a bit of a revelation this year.

Plus they are higher in the league than you ;)

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But it's a surprise when it happens to Arsenal ;) Not so much Liverpool...:D

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It comes as no surprise with the last manager though.;)

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Martin to replace Avram at West Ham

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/9362709.stm

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You mean Martin Jol? ;)

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Phew that was a close call for Man City, looks like it`s still the same old City, should have been home and dry but make you sweat it out :D :rolleyes:
4-3 should be an early match of the day game...

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West Brom vs Blackpool is meant to have been a game of the season contender, so hopefully that will get plenty of attention tonight.

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Spurs excellent so far, really enjoyable and United are nowhere. Although it's a summary of United's season that despite being unable to make a mark on the game they aren't behind. Looks like it's going to be a draw. Possibly because Crouch is the weak link in this Spurs team so far.

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we were awful today no one in the midfield could keep the ball and Nani did nothing the entire match.

Think Andy Gray summed up all that is wrong with football today at the start when he said it us up to Rooney whether is choosing to leave his legs behind and claim a pen. It's either a foul or it isn't if the attacker has to choose what to do then it can't be a foul or a pen that is just plain cheating

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Apart from the fact that in the whole of the second half, even against ten men the only real chance they had was when Hernadez stupidly laid the ball at Van der Vaarts feet.

Rooney, Berbatov and Nani were nowhere today and United still got a point, no thanks to that plonker Mike Dean.:(

Overall a fair result.:cool:

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One thing I did notice yesterday was the pathetic attendance at the so called 'Second City Derby'

Whilst all of the other three games on Sunday were around 1,000 below capacity, due no doubt to segregation/separation considerations,our self styled second city managed a turnout almost 8,000 below capacity.

Some second city.:rolleyes:

Jim.

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Or not....Avram must feel like a dead man walking :(

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Yep, seems the reports jumped the gun... though how many times have we heard a board put their faith in a manager only to sack him a week or two later

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Actually, that fault could be laid at the feet of Birmingham City, not both - when they played at Villa Park earlier this season, the crowd was only a couple of thousand below capacity.

Mind you, I'm a Villa fan, and I wouldn't want to be seen dead at St Andrews (ignoring the fact that I live 140 miles away) ;)

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Steven Pienaar picked up by helicopter from LJLA this morning and on his way down to London. Spurs or Chelsea, take your pick.

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£24 million for Darren Bent, the world has gone mad I tell you.:shocked:

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It's Spurs.

Rather insane if you ask me. Spurs have one of the best midfields in the league. I would say it ranks 2nd to Arsenal's midfield (although I am biased I think it is fair to say Arsenal have the best). If there is one position they do not need to strengthen it is midfield. However Spurs, much like Arsenal, have problems at the back and they also need a better striker.

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You only have to look at Liverpool to see what happens if you stand still and stop trying to improve, they have lost Bentley and the Pienaar deal has been paid for from Darren Bent's sell on clause so it's a no brainer for me.

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Liverpool are an example of poor buys, not enough decent youth players and mismanagement more than anything. None of which apply to Spurs.

It's a good deal monetary wise. However I would say you need to improve in the areas you're weak first and there is such a thing as too many quality players. Maybe other decent players won't get the space to break though. Using Arsenal as an example, because I am more familiar with them, Wilshere is a beneficiary of Wenger not buying to improve an already strong midfield. Bale would be a good example of someone who may not have broken though if this deal happened a year/a year and a half ago.

Who will be knocked further down the pecking order to make way for him? Maybe he will be rotated in or will be a first team fixture. I don't know. However I don't think he is really better than their current crop, which is why it puzzles me. It's adding to the squad, and not in areas where they needed it. Maybe they are in talks to sell someone....

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LFC have accepted an offer from Hoffenheim for Ryan Babel. Now official.

Still loads of speculation over Luis Suarez, Downing and Young.

Looks like van Bommel is off to Milan.

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lfc getting a new player and babel is out on loan

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Babel hasn't gone anywhere yet and neither have there been any signings, not officially.

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Decent youth policy lol who was the last through their ranks, Ledley King.

Who is to say they aren't going to improve other areas and they don't have to many quality players, it's a squad game and you need 2 for every position, they play 5 in midfield and Pienaar can play anywhere in it.

We already know who has been knocked down the pecking order, Bentley. Or maybe they are in talks to buy some one

Tottenham are locked in a battle with Benfica to clinch the signing of Marseille defender Taye Taiwo. The Nigerian international, valued at £5m, has also been targeted by Everton.
Full story: talkSPORT

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Mmm. Might have a point there. I have always associated them with a good youth policy though.

Well so far they have not. All I have to go one as of yet, they probably will granted because they tend to be quite active in transfers. I was simply commenting that this transfer, while good value, is not needed. I am not a fan of clubs buying players because they can.

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Seems not - link

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l was wondering why Spurs din't play any res games,just think of that money Spurs are losing.

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I simply cannot understand the rumours, that Tottenham keep going after defenders, we have so many defenders at Spurs that you could field a reserve tem of them, we need a couple of strikers.

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...if you had a reserve team of course ;)

Unfortunately those defenders include Ledley King & Jonathan Woodgate who can barely kick a ball between them for 10 mins without getting injured :rolleyes:

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How so? Surely they will be saving money? No transport, hotels, reserve team manager etc. to pay for? Although I will happily be corrected.

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wish sky sports would stop saying liverpool are bidding for chaile adam we do not want him. the bpl manager has said he not selling him for 4m he saying he worth 48m. yer right who going to pay 48m for him?

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As much as I hate to say it - Donkey was brilliant yesterday.

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Do you need medical attention after saying that? ;)

He did play well yesterday.

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Still difficult to see who is going down and how the top of the table will pan out. On the current state of affairs I would have to say that West Ham, Wolves and Birmingham. I for one would welcome the relegation of Birmingham.

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Looks like for the first time in it's almost 20 year history we'll have a Welsh club in the premiership. Obviously I'd prefer it to be Swansea but if both go up then we'll show you a real derby ;)

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/201...emale-official

Please please please sack Andy Gray.

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:clap:

I don't think she did too bad, in fact she was spot on with the offside decision. It really shouldn't matter what gender someone is so long as they make the correct decisions (at least most of the time).

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Keys and Gray will probably get sent to Talk Sport now which is where morons who've crossed the line go off to die.

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They have been suspended for tonight's game apparently.

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Yep.

Has King Kenny developed a sense of humour? ;)