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I'd win that. Our manager is so bad we just got beaten by the Welsh! ;)

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Our manager is so bad the score was 3-0 to us but I still had to check if we'd lost.

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Egypt have scored in the 95th minute!! 2-0, meaning a one match play-off in Sudan if it ends like this.

EDIT: Final whistle. Egypt and Algeria finish on the same points, goal difference, goals scored, goals conceded and match records.

How anybody can dislike international football, i'll never know. As i'd hoped, this was magnificent.

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Brilliant, Egypt!!

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It has to be said though; this may well be a case of "Cairo Stadium Overtime". I feel sorry for Algeria.

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I thought 6 minutes added time was very, very generous. I'm glad it was that long though because of that ending.

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I agree. They came so close to getting a third too.

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Now this is a great reason to hate the international break. Our squad is ridiculously injury prone.

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A British TV channel has finally woken up to this encounter, so the Egypt vs Algeria play-off will be live on Eurosport at 17:30 tomorrow.

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The audio on Eurosport is terrible.

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I think this is gonna be a draw

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And Algeria qualify by winning 1 zip

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Ireland 1 up in France!

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Wow, most blatent handball ever. Poor Ireland.

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Defiantly a Hand Ball. I did think it could have well been a penalty before though. Given got a hand on Anelka's ankle.

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Cheating French b******s, what an absolute disgrace. :mad: Ireland have been so much the better side but should have put away at least one of the four clear chances they had in the second half.

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arrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Calm Down a bit. Sky Sports are quite on the Irish side here, that could easily been been a penalty to France and it wasn't given. While Sky pretty much say it was a dive.

Still this won't be a nice way for France to go though. :erm:

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He even handled it again to push it to his feet.

What happened to you Thierry =(

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Raymond Domenech needs to be fired. These performances won't get them past the group stage.

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I'm really disappointed Russia didn't qualify. To a lesser extent, Bosnia too.

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Now we have cheating France & cheating Portugal in the WC.

tbf it looks like Henry knows he's cheated Ireland.

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Russia didn't qualify :O

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Got to say this is more evidence that we need video replays. It's not as if this would even out over the course of a season.

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Sad Ireland didn't qualify, especially due to a missed handball. Though i have to admit i'm a bit of a francophile.

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Extra time. You need a goal to go to the world cup and a massive chance has opened up but you need the hand to stop it going out of play. He looked ashamed but he would do it again. As would a lot of players.

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Once an Arsenal cheat...

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The sight of Arshavin at the end was hard to watch, i really feel sorry for him. This was meant to be Russia's "golden generation" and yet they've failed to qualify for both World Cups this decade.

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Arshavin can focus on us now \o/

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Shame Arshavin won't be at World Cup :(

Hiddink back to Chelsea?

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Ain't that the truth. :mad:

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Yes. Arsenal are the only team to have players who cheat/handball. Whatever.

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Don't remember Henry ever using a hand to assist/score a goal before? He only ever scored quality goals which is why he's a legend.

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Whilst it could 'easily have been given' there was no way that was a penalty, it was a dive and the ball was well out of Anelka's reach by then.

Didn't Anelka once play for Arsenal, to quote that well known football sage Russ," once an Arsenal cheat" .....;)

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He was cost a goal in the FA Cup Final when a Liverpool Player cleared it off the line. (That wasn't cheating because it was a English Defender I believe).

Rooney would have done the same, Torres would have done the Same, Keane would have done the same, Van Persie would have done the same. We need video replays because how many players would do the honest thing with so much mistake.

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Given got a clear hand on his ankle.

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classic fifa fix :( france where never going to lose with refs being paid off and told that france must win at all costs ;(

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EXCLUSIVE FROM Paris. Thierry Henry has been named as captain to spearhead France's challenge for the Rugby 6 nations championship in 2010. French spokesperson Jendorse Le cheats said "clearly handling skills such as Thierry is capable of will be of grande benefit to us"

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:rolleyes:

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Why do reports always say controversial when it isn't. I don't anyone can argue it was a goal.

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Practically half the France team either play or played for Arsenal and that's been the case for the last 10 years. Congratulations on finally noticing that.

Did you know Arsene Wenger is French?

Same as Russia, i'm also disappointed Egypt didn't qualify, they have a great squad are can play some great football. But Algeria certainly aren't a bad substitute.

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after tonight.. Thierry Henry.. Legend status? Revoked

250+ Goals dont give him the right to cheat..

Ever see Pele use his hand to get a goal
Shearer?
Lineker?
Maradonna .. Oh nevermind

Goals dont make you a legend.. a heart for the game makes you a legend.. Henry has shown us now all he cares about is a paycheck hence the move to barca in the first place

Bring back players like Shearer and Lineker... Players who wee proud to wear any football shirt wether the team was trophyless or pennyless

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:Yes: well said robbed by the hand of frog

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Nope. Almost every player has done things like this. As you said Maradonna is still a legend of a player, a rubbish manager but a legend of a player. Henry has won almost Every Major Spanish, British, and World Trophy.


He moved because he didn't want to be the 'main' player at Arsenal in the way it was, to had too much pressure, and because he (correctly) thought he would have a better chance of winning the trophy that most alluded him. The Champions League.

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I don't recall Maradonna willing a Scottish League Cup winners medal and there may be other major British Trophies he didn't win too. ( Did he even play in the Welsh Premier League) ;) :D

.... the same applies to Thierry

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As the saying goes "Don't hate the player, hate the game" or is that a saying for something else.

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Sorry, Meant England. Not Wales and Scotland, who have something in common with Ireland now. They are not going to the World Cup :D

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The ball was already yards over the dead ball line by then.

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No it wasn't. Although I doubt he could have gotten to it. Still a penality in this crazy game though.

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No, I didn't notice that, perhaps its because I use the same optician as Wenger.:p:

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Henry :td:

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The higher than mighty faux outrage is basically a load of *******s.

Any player would try and help their team win a match like that, at any cost. This isn't just some run of the mill match, it's a make or break, once in a lifetime match which literally has the hopes of millions on the players shoulders. To suggest Henry's handball has anything to do with money is plain illogical. As is the notion he's no longer a legend or decent person.

If an English or Irish player had done the same (ignore the fact English players obviously never cheat), that's all we'd be hearing; they did it for their country! But no, as it was a dirty Frenchman, it's the act of Satan.

At least it's given an oppurtunity for people to dish out a good bit of old fashioned francophobia.

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Are you saying it's ok for a player to cheat, as long as it's in a big game?

I'm suprised people are sticking up for him, but on the other hand it doesn't suprise me those people are Arsenal fans. I wonder what their reactions would be if it was Ronaldo in Henry's position?

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I'm not saying that in the slightest. Understanding and sympathy doesn't equate to condoning.

I'm not a hypocrite and i don't get caught up knee jerk hysteria or scape goatting. Despite my massive dislike for Ronaldo i was the first pointing out the ridiculous hysteria, hypocrisy and stupidity surrounding the winking saga at the last WC. Same as i was doing last week with the Drogba/Evans incident, despite as you correctly pointed out, supporting Arsenal.

It doesn't surprise me the people castigating him aren't Arsenal fans, or France fans, or putting the situation in context, or considering what it would be like if the shoe was on the other foot.

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Touche. ;) Only got 31 teams to support now :D

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Just seen a link to a 'anti-henry' group on FB which already has 12,000 members, alot of racist comments on there:rolleyes:

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Inevitable. Like i said earlier; situations like this are like a wet dream for bigots. This is a double whammy too; he's black and he's French. Jackpot!

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Hey Bobby, what's the french for 'cheating *******'?

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...90_931617a.jpg

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I am worried England won't be able to win the World Cup though. Obviously there are all these cheating foreigners and since English players are fundamentally honest we won't win these decisions :(

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Anyway Henry admitted he handballed it. Apparently he did so to Dunn as well which is why they seemed to be, surprising, getting on after the final whistle.

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Incidentally give credit to the Irish team for how well they handled, no pun intended, it after the game.

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Triple whammy surely, he's also a unscrupulous, cheating git.

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I'm not surprised tbh some people have no shame what he did was wrong and he is now deservedly getting criticised for it, all this nonsense about what if it was an Englishman is crap to, we'd never hear the end of it, vilified for a generation.

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Ireland asking for a replay, although I don't see that happening to be honest.

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Fifa should ban Henry for the next 3 competitive internationals. They go on about fair play and respect, so let's see them administer a punishment like they would do so if he had stamped on someone and not been spotted by the ref.

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Well it's not the same as if he stamped on someone. There was no violence there, he handled the ball, and it's not a fair comparison.

The match ban, or a rematch, opens a can of worms because then what about other times when a rule of the game is broken leading to an unfair goal? I think video replays are better because this kind of thing won't be eradicated otherwise, it's not the first time a player has attempted to control a difficult ball with their hands.

By the way it's been reported as if qualification was a sure thing until that goal. France had regained a foothole in the match after Keane missed that one on one chance. They barely featured in the last 10 minutes and in extra time. Also, before than goal Ireland needed 1 goal to go though, afterwards they needed one goal to go though. Henry's handball meant it didn't get to penalties is all. It was a con, very unfair, but it's not as if Ireland had it in the bag.

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A WC 2006 qualifier between Uzbekistan and Bahrain was replayed due to an incorrect refereeing decision a few years ago - at FIFA's own order.

A replay is unlikely, but it's possible, and bearing in mind the above match perhaps it definitely should happen. The draw is on 4th December, so they'd need to get a move on.

Also, do you remember the Arsenal vs Sheffield United FA Cup replay due to Kanu's misunderstanding?

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But they're different to what happened last night. If they're going to replay because of a handball, i want them to replay the United v Chelsea match because the goal shouldn't have stood. I can think of about a dozen games this season where a team lost because of a dodgy goal. I know the Irish are annoyed but it's a bit embarrasing that they're asking for the game to be replayed imo.

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Well exactly. I was thinking about the Ashley Cole Dive. It's was not a cheat that caused the goal to go in, but it did lead to a goal. Like last night, it was a cheat to control the ball which lead to the pass. It's not as if he did the actual hand of god thing.

The thing is one dodgy goal is always something in football. We need video (come on FIFA) so the incidents like this which are in-your-face blatent handballs like that are caught. However we can't have rematches based on dodgy goals.

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What you've both said is true, but this wasn't 1 game of a 50 match season. This is never going to "equal itself out throughout the course of a season". It's literally once in a lifetime. The magnitude of this match outweighs the examples you've given, in every sense. For that reason i can understand FAI's replay request.

The Uzbekistan/Bahrain example is only different in the type of mistake by the referee(s). It's essentially the same scenario - a mistake made which may well have changed the outcome of the tie.

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There's a slight difference between a referee not knowing the rules (e.g Bahrain eg above) and missing something on the pitch.

FIFA have stated now the game will not be replayed

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Loads of mistakes could affect the outcome of a game. I don't care what some in the press say, France should have had the penalty, and the only reason it's being denied is because it takes away from the outrage some wish to express at the result. The same reason the press neglect to mention Keane controlling the ball with this hand earlier in the match (albeit getting caught, unlike Henry).

We have replays for 'big games' then both teams will always look at every single incident in a game looking for grounds to call a replay. That was a dive, rematch! That wasn't a free kick, rematch! He was offside, rematch!

Then you have the problem of what counts as a big game? All cup matches? A regulation battle in the league? Every World Cup game?

The only time I would think this should even be considered is for systematic poor referring throughout the game, as was the case for the Chelsea vs Barcelona Champions League Semi-Final.

A result needs to be final in all but the most outrageous incidents. This was not that, this was a handball leading to a goal. It was not systematic cheating or poor referring. Ireland did not have the game 'in the bag' as is being reported, they were under pressure for a while before the goal. So as unfair as it was, it's not as if it's was a cert they were to go though.

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Wonder if Ireland would be happy for this match to be replayed:

YouTube - Ireland - Georgia RIDICULOUS Penalty

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:LOL:

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Big Sam has heart op - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...rs/8371989.stm

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I hope it all goes well for SA

In the mean time Liverppol v ManCity is just about to kick off, hopefully should be an interesting game as both Liverpool and City need to start winning to be seriously considered as Premiership contenders

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So is Liverpool's flatulent season over already?

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Yes :)

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You are such a stirrer Russ :D

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I'd expect the same if the situation was reversed :D

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Even though he has strong links with Bolton, I do like Big Sam and hope that he will be okay.

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Things get interesting up in Scotland.

After years of the old firm being out of sight by Xmas there is only three points between the top four teams thanks to another exceptional display of crapness from Mowbrays muppets.

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Wigan are getting crushed by Spurs.

5 for Defoe now.

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Is that a record???

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Closest I could find was

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I think Man Utd beat Ipswich 9-0 a few years ago.

EDIT: You got it! lol.

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:shocked: Bad day for the pie eaters

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Is it a record then for the most goals scored in a single 90minute game inthe premiership I wonder??

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And bloody typical that Wigan's only goal was illegal. Henry eat your heart out.

What a game though. We could have easily had 3 more.

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Yes.

There have been 9-0, 8-1, 7-2, 6-3, 5-4 but nothing with 10 goals.

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Well done to Roberto Martinez for keeping the score below 10....

I wonder if he has any regrets about leaving Swansea after they reached their highest league position in 26 years on the weekend.

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Henry sucks...

CLEANERS in Ireland have decided their Henry vacuum cleaners really suck - after Thierry Henry's handball ended the nation's World Cup dream


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-cleaners.html

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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And they mocked the Americans over Freedom Fries?

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There was 7 - 4 between Pompy and Reading couple seasons ago which is the highest afaik.

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There was a Spurs 6 - Reading 4 as well.

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This made me laugh.... in the MLS there is a team called Real Salt Lake (as in Real Madrid), but they play in Barcelona's colours :p:

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So much for the Kick It Out campaign...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...ngland&cc=5739

As that is a completely racist statement, I wonder if FIFA will act on him? I say probably not. al-Faraj (a Saudi) deserves an honourable mention for employing Grant and Ben-Haim.

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It proves he is a racist, I don't think he made a racist statement though. He just said "I do not want to work here because I am a racist". Just like "I don't want to work here because of the black people" is an admission of racism rather than a racist statement?

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I don't think it does, did he say I don't want to work here because of Jews, no, good on him I say, Israel operates an apartheid system and it's about time people in the media spotlight had the balls to say so.

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Yes. That was the whole point of the post really.

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Its a thin line IMO.

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Read it again couldn't find any mention of Jews, just Israelis

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Except for Avram Grant and Tal Ben-Haim you mean?

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Who he objects to playing with/for because they are Israeli not because they are Jewish, there are loads of Jews in football who aren't Israeli like Juan Pablo Sorin and your own David Pleat who he may well have played with or for without issue.

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So you think that descriminating on the basis that they are Israeli and not Jewish is not racist?

I almost thought you were serious there for a moment.

In case you are...

http://www.ask.com/web?q=dictionary%...&o=13919&l=dis

Note the word "geographic", mentioned several times.

And anyway, its news to me that Avram Grant and Tal Ben-Haim are solely responsible for Israel's policies for the last 40-odd years. You learn something new every day.

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Not every Israeli or Jew supports Israel's policies towards Palestine*. Treating the entire people as one is a recipe for trouble. Imagine an American not wanting to play for a team that contained Iranians or Afghans? Think of all the countries that wouldn't want to play with a team that contained Britons because of the screwed up stuff 'we' have done in the past?

He also doesn't want to play with an Algerian! He is at best xenophobic.


*Personally, although I obviously intensely dislike some of it, I think not all are without merit.

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Pleat doesn't work for Tottenham (sadly, for us).

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I dont consider him racist considering Israel is made up of more than just Jews and it's the treatment of Arab Israeli's he is making this stance for but you knew that anyway I'd imagine and have resorted to weakest resort possible by using dictionary definitions.

Not solely responsible for but if they haven't come out and denounced their government for their actions then they bare some responsibility. You know it'd be funny if it wasn't so tragic that any criticism of that countries policies are shot down amid accusations of racism, even when foreign Jews criticise they are labled as self loathers and the like.

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Its called evidence. Evidence to prove that are wrong and have not got the faintest idea what you are talking about. That or you are trying to (pathetically) defend your own prejudices. Which one then?


More nonsense from you then.

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Does this standard also apply to you and your country's actions? Or is it only famous people who should abide by this?