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my friend is in an ex-c&w and vmtest channels still work fine.
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It does "feel" like these are the long awaited HD channels, no? They seem to be testing appx the right amount at the right sort of time...
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Here is the info I got at this time from the Broadcasters: A&E Television Networks has told me in an email that they are in talks with Virgin about Military History joining. No news on if Crime & Investigation Network +1 will also come. I think the ABC Television Group deal is up this year so we may get Disney Cinemagic + 1 & Playhouse Disney +. The BBC has told me that an deal has been sign for BBC Alba to launch on Virgin. But they are do not have an launch date and Channel number from Virgin yet. ESPN Classic may appear with the ABC deal. UKTV has told me that Eden + 1 and Yesterday + 1 will launch on Virgin ''Later in the year.'' |
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Ah well... at least you have cleared that up! Ta :)
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I used to love this thread. And I really do appreciate the hard work that goes into updating it.
But I can't view it anymore because all I see is broken promises!!! (again not the thread creators fault) I have been waiting for channels like ESPN for almost 4 years now. |
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Media Boy on your list on post 1 of broadcasters would it be possible to add on the contract renewal dates.
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...the only people who would know that are VM's board and the individual broadcasters/media companies.
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Hi Andy, Let me answer your question, concerning the gripe that l have with VM.
This is the 21st century, we have a major satellite company called Sky, and we have VM, a well known cable company, people that cannot get Sky are entitled to the same good quality tv programmes, as everyone gets, and this has to come via the cable network, VM have been making promises over the last eight months, that we are getting this and that, and what do we get - nothing. Customers pay hard earn't money to get good quality products, and therefore should get the best, customers on VM call cs and get told a load of crap, of what we are supposed to get, and pay the price, and don't get it, The early part of last year, l went to a lot of trouble and expense to get HD tv, and l bought the V+Box which supplies HD pictures (CS told me this) l was told, we would get the same HD channels as Sky, within a few weeks, now nearly a year gone by, where are the HD channels - no where, we have been promised HD channels within a few months, which month - and you don't think l can gripe, the money, l could have used for something else.:mad: And this is nothing personnel. |
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We got a V+ box installed last week. When I called customer services to order the box I discussed channels, and was told that there would be six new HD channels arriving in September. No mention of what the channels were though.
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The problem is that CS simply do not know what channels are due to come on to VM. They are a commercial company who pay to host channels. Lets say that again. They pay to host channels. Sky do not. Sky simply host them. Therefore CS should not be telling anyone anything as they simply don't know. Nor do installers, engineers, finance, broadband techs or anyone.
In reality a lot of the people who are negotiating these deals don't know when these channels are arriving. Right now in a massive economic down turn, VM cannot afford to take on channels that will not make revenue for them. Hence hosting ESPN who will want a bucket load of cash, has to be balanced against the advertising revenues for that channel. Now you could (and will argue) that this means that people will leave the service. However once people have a system they are very unlikely to move. I for one do not want the hassle of switching all my stuff over simply so I can get the odd channel a bit clearer - yes I have seen HD and I cannot see what the fuss is about. So therefore VM will add channels as they can, but will balance that against churn and the advertising revenue they will receive from them. So ignore what CS tell you and look at post 1 of this thread. |
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Sky and VM TV are premium services, the TV that "everyone" gets is Freeview. If you're not happy with VMs offerings, let them know about it and leave! |
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I cannot get sky. Only VM. Therefore there are lots of features/ tv I miss out on. My parents can get neither sky nor VM. Its not as if they can just up sticks and move in this day and age. My personal feelign is that everythign available on a satellite should be available via the cable that goes underground. If it means paying more, then so be it. |
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But people are talking about it like premium TV is a god given right, it isn't!
Most of the HD stuff you're missing out on that's on Sky HD is either upscaled or simulcast on SD channels. It's all money driven, ad revenue is down, broadcasters want to ensure revenue so they enter into exclusivity deals with pay TV operators. VM are also in the unfortunate position that they inherited legacy networks from all the previous cable franchises and are having to standardise them before they can offer multiple HD channels and things for the future like SDV. This all costs money and on the back of the debt they inherited it's very hard to do. |
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I've not got freesat, which is a bit of a different concept, but even with that you can't get the Sky Sports HD channels or anything either so it's not just VM that are missing out |
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Wow this has went off topic (again). Isn't there a HD topic you guys could arguing in instead of trolling this one?
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the problem could be resolved by making both platforms hosts only. ie sky cannot own or run the platform if they own channels and also virgin ofload their channels too. Possibly the sky platform run by another company with no ties to sky distributing & installing boxes and running & mantaining the EPG .This then puts both companys on an equal footing both buying in the channels to host on their networks.
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knowing VM, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few HD shopping channels join the line-up there you go peeps the 6 or 7 hd channels you waited for pmsl
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VM subscribers who aren't as bothered about HD as you clearly are have the option of having the M TV package. This is a fairer comparison. Then you have to take into account whether other differences such as catch up are important to you. Personally I subscribe to XL for Setanta sports and for some to the kids channels that aren't available through freestat. HD isn't a priority. |
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Its still the same principle. I pay to have these channels as its the only way I can see them (sky sports, setanta, etc) yet when I pay for them I find out that the very match I wanted to see is on the red button. |
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secondly you do not pay to get channels, you pay for a service not for spefic channels virign are under no obilgation to provide the same lineup as sky |
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the only reason I mentioned freesat was to point out that they are also missing out on HD channels too. They don't have Channel 4 HD, Eurosport HD which are non premium channels they could have so its not just VM.
Not got much faith in Ofcom by the time their report comes out Sky will appeal and it will drag on and on. |
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Usually orientation of your home, as you need to have clear line of site to 28.2° East.
Can normally be overcome by using a long mast on a chimney for example but for some people there's just no getting around it. |
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Please do not try to avoid the swear filter, it's there for a reason.
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[or at least sky wasnt invented when the house was built there] |
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i heard 2 day when a vm engineer came 2 fix my v+ box he said itv hd will launching soon and i also asked him will we be getting espn classic and he said we mite be getting it
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I'd take anything said by VM with a pinch of salt, hell if the CEO can't be trusted when he announces three to four HD channels in the next three months how on earth can you believe any-other VM statements?? They'll tell you what you want to hear to keep on receiving your cash...the exception being the few good VM employee's who post on CF.:) |
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Remember Wikipedia is updated by anyone. I can go on there now and add "it is doubtful that this channel will ever show on Virgin Media" and there it will be. Wikipedia is about 70-80% accurate and not a good source for news.
Also engineers do not know what is new. They may get some training on new boxes, technologies etc but only very very close to launch. The test channels will probably be to ensure that the feeds work in place of close analogue channels. They don't necessarily mean that anything is actually launching. |
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List has been updated - see post one.
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I think we should re-name this thread to "there's a very slim chance some of these things might come to VMTV", because as far as I can see not much mentioned ever seems to materialise on our TV's!!!
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By my own records there have been no new channel launches since the 7th October last year when UK Gold was replaced and split into two channels Watch and G.O.L.D. I am excluding the return of Sky's basic channels on the 13th November as they weren't "new".
Yes, On Demand is wonderful (when it works..) and there has been new developments such as ITV Player launching on it. But most people still prefer as wider selection of channels as possible and as usual throughout the whole era of cable tv, we are shortchanged. Even basic channels such as the ITV+1s which are available on Freeview are missing and VM have yet to restore removed channels such as More 4 +1 or UK History +1 (now Yesterday +1) which are channels I would really like to see return. And with the announcement that VM is still shifting its debt around (my interpretation of a press release issued the other day) what should be a strong platform, is still bogged down in a sea of debt, an average EPG (I'm being kind here...) lacking even some basic functions and a poor choice of channels, things don't seem to be looking too good for VM. And I won't even go into the HD debate... That said, I don't know anyone else who has rolled out 50mb broadband across the country, so VM are good at some things, just wish the same efforts were put on its tv platform too. |
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The ''Virgin TV'' list has now been updated - see post one.
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whats happend to the 5 - 7 hd channels for june 22 pie in the sky eh
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no one sai june 22 so i dnt know where you got that from, and they never said all 5 or 6 would launch then
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i have been told it is july when they are coming, was told a few that should be coming and that should be more as well . but i have been told not to say. all i can say is If they do come some people will be in for a big supprize cwj2008 |
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End of June we will find out they are coming in 3 months time no doubt.
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I know that they will be announcing something soon regarding HD and people will apparently be surprised(In a good way)!
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I bet VM have come up with a new way of saying 'coming soon'. Maybe they will move up to using 'Imminent' WOW wouldn't that be a nice surprise. :D
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That because they cant say unitl it all finalised and dates and epg number have been determined probally find in the next qurtely review they will be defintely something ;)
but i hvae nto clue where the date in june came form |
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Don't be so cynical sir...check Stephen's profile...
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if you dont know who RED is hes the puppet who talks to the puppet incharge of virgin:D |
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Doesn't RED start his Virgin adverts this time next week?
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Hi Smallclone, This what l have been saying for months, it is people such as yourself, who cannot get the best quality tv entertainment, that VM should be supplying.
VM have a duty to its customers, to supply this, they don't care, l am with both companies, I have Sky for its Tv and VM with its phone, when l started with Telewest, l was promised 1500 channels, by the company, when l found out after instal, this wasn't the case, l cancelled. When l had the phone installed by VM l was promised the same thing, it was not to be, l was promised HD channels via the V+ box, so l spent a lot of money on a TV with HD, no HD channels come along, VM should be putting customers first and supplying everyone of the same channels that Sky have, but they won't, as they will only supply channels THEY feel the customer needs. That is why cable customers don't get the same. But they will supply crap +1 channels, which is the same as the original channel.:) |
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In my opinion you need to learn to discriminate between what is actually 'promised' & what is marketing hype.To be honest I don't believe someone can be that naive - as such I suspect your posts are mostly for effect & not based in reality. Before I stretch the T&C's of this forum any further, I will just edit my ever growing ignore list. |
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VM would love to have the same channels as Sky but its just not that simple and straight forward. |
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I am waiting on virign filling the other 700 with painting drying etc |
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.........................https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/06/99.jpgA little background information of the new mascot. Red.
http://www.cable.co.uk/news/virgin-m...scot-19196080/ |
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It's really pretty depressing when the only thing coming soon from VM is a stuffed puppet...:zzz:
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The re0branding probably cost then a couple of million... we could have had AT LEAST 1 new HD channel for that! :cool: |
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Imminent surprise coming for Virgin TV viewers.
http://virgintvmediaboy.blogspot.com...virgin-tv.html |
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Just to answer the question, regarding my 1500 channels, l had a guy from Telewest sitting in my living room, when Telewest laid the cables down my road, And what he said to me was ' I will supply 1500 tv channels, plus 50 radio channels for you, and arrange for you to have as many boxes as you like ' . When the cable was installed, l couldn't understand why, the channels were not there.
So l contacted Telewest, and they stated, that they could only offer so many channels, and the radio channels come via a cable to your main radio, not connected to the cable network, l cancelled Telewest that day. We only installed it again, as l was out of work, and couldn't afford Sky, this is what l mean by false promises, and l fell for it. Just like the false promises of VM on HD, l bought the box on the promise by VM that they would have HD channels, l even bought a HD Tv SET. on that promise that HD would be here with a few weeks. |
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Arthur are you really trying ot tell me you believe what sales people tell oyu? cause if that the case i sell you some things get a nice profit and you get a raw deal. sales people always lie to get sale and if you are honestly trying to tell me you never knew this and dnt think sky does it you are really daft. and if it was back then you got it installed there was only about 300 channels on sky i thin k yhou will find it was 150 you jsut misheard or really jsut believewd a sale person would never lie |
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ohh! releasing an "imminent surprise" At 8pm... all nighter coming on i think ;)
chances of virgin launching 4 HD Channels by friday? :P |
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Hi Andy, At the time, the salesman was so good, l fell for it, this was sometime ago. And l have learn't my lesson the hard way, why do you think, l keep on moaning about VM, the promises they have made me, the problem is, they keep on telling me also about HD, and yes, they did say '1500' and as l said, l have learn't my lesson, l let my wife deal with salesman now.:)
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hmmn. thinking i should cancel my all nighter then (N)
maybe ill see HD channels in my dreams xD |
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Just to let everyone know:
Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM? A: I get all my info from Virgin Media workers (NOTE: I called them Virgin Media Insider), Virgin Media viewers and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will say ''Info from WEB SITE NAME''). |
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The surprise will be a topless Richard Branson popping out of a birthday cake to announce the new free HD lineup on VM, at least one of which will be exclusive. :)
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1. Topic please
2. Cease the arguing/abusing each other 3. Have a nice day ;) |
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Just got off the phone to customer services about cancelling tv service. She said there are more sd channels on their way, major improvements to the tv platform and hd. Asked her when, she said couldn't say much, but something will be happening this week regarding hd! this could of course be all lies to try and keep me who knows?;)
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I'd really like to have HD on Virgin as they are very competitive and cable *should* be better than Sky technically (two way cable etc, on demand etc etc). |
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Does that mean if the television was equipped with a camera thay could effectively watch what you were doing? They could then see your disappointment at the lack of HD. |
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The two-way, high-bandwidth cable connection between your home and Virgin Media allows them to deliver far superior interactive services compared to anything Sky's platform is capable of. Whether they are actually making as much of this as they should be is another discussion entirely! |
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It's bound to be crappy 4hd or itvhd oh the excitement!!!
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Two channels has today been removed from Virgin TV as my ''Total Channels'' has now been cut to 307 in an Ex-Telewest area.
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