Re: The iPhone thread
 

Already onto it! And switch off google push ;)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

You shouldn't be charged that much for GPS. The iPhone (by default) uses assisted GPS to get faster lock ons. This requires that a little data is sent to a data centre, and a little data is received. If you turn off the Assistance (although I have no idea if you can do that on the iPhone), you won't be charged anything, but the GPS will take several minutes to lock on.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I'd be *very* careful though with your usage.

10MB is not very much at all, especially as Google Maps downloads the map data on the go.

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Can't be turned off. There's only an overall on/off toggle for GPS as a whole.

As Google Maps downloads map data on the go, & can't be pre-loaded with maps (unless using a Jailbroken iPhone), even if you could turn off the Assistance side of it, the Map app will still be using a lot of data.

Not a problem with a free WiFi connection though of course... so long as it's not one which only works when logged in via a browser.


EDIT:

I guess you could effectively turn off the Assistance side of the GPS when abroad by turning off data roaming, as the iPhone then could not connect at all via GPRS/EDGE/3G.

But, although the GPS itself would still work, you'd need something to actually use it with, & the Google Maps app requires a data connection to download the map data.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Orange make it official http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8278073.stm

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Does Google Maps not store a cache of data on the device?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Hopefully we'll see a price war between the two. Also, I wonder if the forthcoming merger with T-Mobile may mean better network coverage on Orange

Re: The iPhone thread
 

If Orange has better prices then I might leave O2 as my contract is up in November.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yep, some. Not sure how much though. And for it to cache any data, it'd still need a data connection initially.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Hi,
had my 3gs about a week now an just last night noticed that the bottom section of the screen is ever so slightly darker than the top. It's most noticable in landscape mode on White webpages. can anyone me know if this is a common thing or if I need a relacement unit?

Thanks guys

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I can't say it's something I've noticed... do you have an Apple Store near you that you can take it into for a look?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It's only the slightest of 'greyness' On one side and after doing some googling it seems a lot of iPhones have the same thing. My daughters iPod 2gen has a similar thing.
No apple stores near Harrogate as far as I know and I can't say I'm too keen on 02 swapping it out correctly as it took forever to get this one outta them!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

My orange contract is up in November so I hope I can get my hands on one.
I just hope they dont "Brand" it too much...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Spoke to 02 today and they claimed there was none in stock. I called back 5 mins later and asked for a refund and 'hey presto' they had one in stock, its coming tomorrow. Oh and I insisted that it wasnt a refurb!

Thing is theres a strong chance it will have a knacked screen as apparently the white 3Gs's are rife with screen problems. One guy on the apple forum had to return his 5 times before he got a decent screen.

It looks as though its dependent on the factory and batch number. The earlier batches are ***** and full of cracked cases, the screen fault then appeared so HOPEFULLY this new batch will be free of both issues.....

.... oh and then theres the well known touch screen fault... haha

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Chris - Good stuff on getting a replacement. I hope the next one is decent!

I can't see Orange branding it at all - O2 haven't.

One good thing about Apple's control freakery I suppose...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I took this up with customer services a few days back and was told there is a sensor on the phone which detects when you have the iPhone to your ear and switches the screen off (to save power). He blaimed my case which is like a plastic mould type thingymebob - was he blagging me or what?!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yes I reckon he was blagging you to take you off the "screen fault" scent - but he was right it does turn the screen off when its near your ear. The Proximity sensor is to the left of the ear-piece, my case has a cut out of it so it still works. if you put the phone vertical and put your hand over the earpiece then it should turn the screen off.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

A freind has just bought a 3gs from o2 and is in the process of moving to o2 after being told by an orange call centre agent that the iphone won't come to orange as it does not work on their network.

Muppets. Lost a customer by not even knowing that orange and t-mobile (who both use similar gsm tech) have the iphone in other countries.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Beyond being locked to a particular network (and that can be reversed), there is nothing that stops any iPhone being used on any GSM Network. OK, so for 3G and HSDPA access, you need the 3G or 3GS. No doubt helped by the fact that all the mobile phone networks in this country use standard protocols.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

There are a couple of different iphone models with specific radio set-ups. (and not just 3g/3gs). The difference come with the way some networks use 3g.

Apple has also been recruiting EVDO, CDMA and Wimax engineers.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Vodafone finally catch up http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...in-the-UK.html

In 12 months if they can improve the specs then I could be interested.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Marvelous.....

I moved from Vodafone to O2 because I wanted an iPhone, and now I get crappy signal at home - if I'd known they were going to do this I would have stayed put.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

True, but as far as I understood it, the only real difference between the UK networks is that O2 installed EDGE to enable slightly faster data transfers on the original iphone, and no other network uses it.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

CDMA will be for US networks like Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular etc

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Guess what!?!?
My SECOND Iphone arrived today and was in a worse state than the first. Not only did it have the same screen issue (which is genuine) but it also had a scratched power button, a black mark on the white case and a load of 'plasticy' crap hanging out the side of the touch screen!

Are Apple exclusively employing work experience kids at the moment?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

quite possibly, I have just had to have a BGA Reflow done on the Graphics card in a 24" imac for a customer. I am guessing that there are severe quality control issues.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I could forgive the occasional mishap, no company are perfect. But of the three recent Apple branded products that have been in my household this past month, ALL have been faulty in one way or another.

Its quite shocking when you consider how popular they are at the moment!

Supply and demand having a severe effect on quality it seems - Not good Apple!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

If Orange merger their network with T-Mobile, then I will definitely move my iPhone to Orange next year. T-Mobile are the only people to provide good coverage in my house... yes... indoors, where it is isn't predicted and therefore should be a big white dot on everyone else's maps!!

For what it's worth, here's my iPhone history. Damning on Apple, damning on me...

1st iPhone - dropped, insurance claim
2nd iPhone - home button failed
3rd iPhone - phone calls silent, microphone hardware fault
4th iPhone - wi-fi chip failed
5th iPhone - I've just dropped it in a swimming pool (while fully clothed, including dropping myself)

That's three failed iPhones in about six months. Not good.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

As well as multiple 'fails' of your own doing lol :-P

Sorry couldnt resist.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

So long as Apple's fails exceed my own, they're the worse culprit!!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Perhaps the failures would be reduced if you looked at the Toshiba TG02 when it comes out.... It's waterproof lol

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Ok well I eventually got a new phone arrive today, although the battery was totally flat to the point it wouldnt turn on, should I be concerned? The last two have at least had enough charge to hold for at least a boot and activation

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Don't be worried yet, be worried after 12 hours if it wont switch on

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Just seen a potentially handy app for the iPhone. Similar to Say No To 0870, it enables you to look up (and dial) the number that the 0870 connects to.


http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/M...286088398&mt=8

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Its a stuffed battery. I fully charged it last night, over night it dropped 10% charge doing naff all but sitting in standby!

Took a call from 02 and during a three min convo it dropped another 5%.

So thats three knackered Iphones 02 have sent me, I bet they are getting slightly peeved at Apple!

All three have been white, the manager I spoke to today in the business dept agreed that it was worth me swapping to Black to see if that cures the issues with the cracked cases and screen issues.

Come on Apple, sort yourselves out!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Sorry to hear about your shoddy service.

If it helps (re the black iPhone), I have had one for over a year now, and had no problems.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Seems to be an issue with quality control during this current high demand period for the new 3gs. Of the three phones ive had so far the first was by far the best, part of me wishes I had kept that one! Although that might be the case keeping a 'broken' phone after shelling out £180 is not really acceptable.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I think i'm having a blonde moment guys, but how do i switch off my voicemail so calls aren't forwarded to it? :rolleyes:

Edit - found a handy guide http://v3.thewatchmakerproject.com/j...e-for-uk-users

I do have the handbook downloaded to my own laptop, but seen as I'm using a friends I didn't want to appear cheeky :D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Can't remember how I did it.

http://www.o2.co.uk/support/generalh...email901abroad


This may be an easier option:

http://www.o2.co.uk/support/generalh...oi/o2callalert

Re: The iPhone thread
 

You just dial 1760 to disable or 1750 to enable ;)

I don't like anyone enough to worry about them leaving me a message, if its urgent they can text :D

Now to sort out data roaming....

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Just picked up my 3GS today - tis nice!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Black or white and how does the battery seem to be holding?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

White - I've had the black for nearly a year, so fancied a change - seems not to bed, screen, doesnt seem as sharpe - seems "pasty" but loving it, have noticed the speed difference though.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Noticed and hairline cracks in the case? All three of my White phones had cracks in them either around the speaker jack or the screws at the bottom.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Nope, nothing at all, utterly perfect :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Jammu sod lol.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I know :D

Very lucky, I wasnt given a screen with a yellow screen and or any wierdness.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

just wondering if anyone knows what app im on about

i seen an iphone ad on telly last night and one app showed a photo on the phone with the ability to upload straight to facebook as well as other social networking sites.

anyone know what i mean... or was i dreaming this :confused: lol

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Dreaming me thinks.. Facebook does this, just choose a photo from ther library and done

Re: The iPhone thread
 

wouldnt surprise me mate.. had a few to drink at a house gathering. :)

thnx anyways bud

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I've been thinking, is there a way to install flash player for safari?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

No. Adobe and Apple are supposedly working on a version of Flash player, but have hit several problems.

1. A lot of flash movies require access to Flash's inbuilt scripting language, ActionScript. Applications with Scripting languages built in are violations of the iPhone SDK terms and conditions, so Apple will not allow distribution via iTunes app store. If Flash is released for iPhone, it will likely come with a future version of the OS.
2. Apparently Flash is working on the iPhone, but can overload the CPU, and therefore drain the battery quickly.
   
   

Re: The iPhone thread
 

It was a postcard app or something. If you go onto itunes store on your computer I'm sure there is a 'apps from the ads' section.

Also as for a comment on quality.

Got a 1st Gen (2g) iphone on launch day and loved the aluminium back. Dropped it several times onto concrete and allsorts and with a few scuffs it did very well. Now on on of the first black 3g iphones which has had a similar hard life and has a few minor cracks. Considering the drops it has had I never though it would have got this far. With a normal phone I'd be picking up bits for sure or at worst simply re assembling them after many of the drops this phone has had.

When I got the first one I got looks and people looking at me funny. Now theres 4 out of ten people at work with 1 and 1 more getting one when orange launch them. My ex is looking at one and her sis just got a 3gs. And a freind just got 1 as well. They are slowly taking over.

Contract is up in december and i'm wondering do I get the 3gs or wait for the tablet?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Well, I've had the 2G - 3G and now the 3GS.. my only gripe with the 3GS, is the screen seems a little hazzy.. other than that, you sure as hell notice the difference in speed.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Shozu does that.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

URGENT HELP REQUIRED :rolleyes:

The iPhone is completely dead. Used it about an hour ago with about 1/3 charge left on it. Now it won't wake up/switch on or anything. Totally dead.

HELP!! :(

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Have you tried holding the power button down for 10 seconds? - this shuts it off fully.

Leave it a couple of seconds, then hold it down again until it powers up (if it does).

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Tried it, doesn't do a thing (nothing comes on the screen at all)

EDIT:- Don't know how, but i got it working. I'll be dropping into CPW tomorrow I think, not happy at all with that.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Press & hold down, home button for 10 seconds - then press the power button for about 5 seconds, making sure, it's plugged into iTunes. Should, put the iPhone in DMFU mode then click restore.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I can't do that atm (long story, but no iTunes for a few days), but will do it anyway when I can access my itunes - thx :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

No Problems.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Sounds like the battery went dead. You need to plug it in at the wall, not usb to the computer. Leave it charging for a good 30 mins and then it should let you turn it on.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I thought that too but didn't really want to state what I thought was a bit obvious :)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Just bought Memory Info Lite.

Apple have made them remove the 'Free Memory' feature, so now it just tells you how much memory your iPhone is gobbling up.

What a waste of 59p!

Re: The iPhone thread
 

There was plenty of charge in it.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Get an Andriod. ;)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Hold down both the power button and the home button. Ignore the slide screen when it appears and keep holding until it powers off. Then power back up after about 10 seconds. This is the iphones way of hardbooting.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

:)

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Want to watch live Freeview TV channels on your iPhone? Via not just WiFi but also 3G?

Then try TVCatchup...

http://iphone.tvcatchup.com/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I've been using iTunes on my brothers pc whilst waiting for my own laptop power supply to arrive (from Hong Kong), so now I'm back to using my iTunes on my own laptop.

Sorry if I appear dim, but is there a way I can back up my iPhone to my iTunes on this laptop? It seems to want to wipe everything :confused: as it was installed via iTunes on my brothers Mac.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I use SBSettings. It shows the amount of free memory, plus lets you see which Apps are still running in the background (& lets you close them if you want), plus has an option to free up memory, plus has quick & easy on/off toggles for 3G & WiFi & various other things, and more... Free on Cydia, so JB only though.

--------------

Now 3.1.2 can be Jailbroken, I've just updated my 3GS to 3.1.2 & Jailbroken it again. Lost the ability to carrier unlock due to the baseband update in 3.1+, but that doesn't bother me though as I'm stuck with O2 anyway.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Some people are having problems with P55 mobos and their iPhone...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10..._p55_problems/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Yup get this every so often..

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Orange confirm iPhone availability date, it's 10th November

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8337601.stm

http://newsroom.orange.co.uk/2009/11...vember-10th-2/

Edit: plans are available here http://interest.orange.co.uk/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I wonder if I can upgrade and keep my current plan?
I pay about 30ish pounds per month and get unlimited texts etc

And since when has unlimited meant limited???
I know that using 750mb a month is probably hard to use from a mobile device but why say its unlimited then print a line below that says it is'nt......

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Pfft. I was hoping they would undercut O2 on price. Wait to see what Vodafone do I guess.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

IMO all operators are going to have the same style price plans with similar pricing options to O2. This is because they need to (a)recoup the cost of the phones and (b) O2 have got away with it for this long without people moaning about the cost so theres no reason why Orange and Voda will be any different.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Orange's pricing and tariff minutes and texts are almost the same as the O2 ones. No surprise there, however I thought they may have tried to get things cheaper or have more inclusive mins and texts than O2.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

lets see if i can get one on the 10th then....
I'm sure my contract is up then

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I'm glad they aren't different, otherwise I'd have been well miffed :p:

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I could not upgrade, I had to take an "iphone" tariff.
£87 for the iphone 3gs 16gb in black.
£35 a month.

They reckon it should be delivered on the 10th but im not holding my breath due to the amount of sales i think they will get.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Well thats hardly surprising as its not the 10th yet. Since Iphone is in high demand too, 02 don't loose out by telling people to get 'on their bike' if they ask for cheapo deals.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Just bought myself one of these. It's a small rechargable battery pack and is perfect when you want to use the iPhone (or iPod) on long journeys.

And, it's small enough that it fits in a pocket easily.

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Oh, and a hacker who tried to extort money out of some Jailbroken iPhone owners has published details of how to close the backdoor he used...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/iphone_hack/

Basically, you need to change the device's root password..

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Without reading the entire thread have we talked about cases yet?

Im already looking at ebay for protection of my newest gadget...

Im looking at this at the moment..


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I have a Powersupport Black Air Jacket for my 3GS, my wife's 3G has an, IIRC, InCase Slider.

I had a screen protector on my 3G (Powersupport Anti-glare I think), but haven't bothered with one on my 3GS.

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The new baseband introduced by firmware 3.1 has been cracked by "geohot" (he of, most recently, 3.0's Jailbreak "Purplera1n" & 3.1's Jailbreak "Blackra1n"), meaning that it is now finally possible to perform a carrier unlock on a Jailbroken iPhone running 3.1.x, using the "Blacksn0w" feature of geohot's updated "Blackra1n" OS 3.1 Jailbreaking app.

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/11/03/black...band-05-11-07/

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Regarding Blacksn0w... While geohot is legit and does work with the dev-team his releases do tend to be more sloppy than the dev-team (more crashes, worse battery life, etc). He prefers to get them out asap whereas the dev-team tend to want to release more robust solutions. I'd wait until the dev-team do a solution.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

04 Nov 2009 parcel - dpd next day - Customer data received

Do you think they will hold on to it till the 10th?
I got a text at 6 this morning with a tracking number etc...

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I've got something similar on mine, but its a bit too chunky and has to be removed before I can sit it on my docking station - is it really slim around the phone?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Gigabyte have released a beta BIOS update, nothing from ASUS or MSI though.

http://gizmodo.com/5399320/gigabyte-...syncing-issues

Re: The iPhone thread
 

In fairness to Apple, I've had problems with USB with other, non-apple devices on my intel chipset. On thing that springs to mind is my old Freeview box (an unbranded one). When it was plugged in, my external USB HDD would suffer disk errors and eventually disconnect.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

There appears to be a "virus" affecting jail-broken iPhones.
BBC

Re: The iPhone thread
 

No, it only affects phones that have a SSH server installed with the default password. Big difference.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

And instructions for changing the password (which you should do anyway regardless of whether there is a virus) are at http://cydia.saurik.com/password.html

Re: The iPhone thread
 

As far as I know though, that is a process with happens during the jail break meaning users need to explicitly turn off (or change the password for) the SSH server after jail breaking their phones?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

There is no process, but users are reminded. Trouble is people don't read things like manuals and readmes anymore.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

This is good news for me anyway :) I don't like having to use my iPhone via jailbreaking. Well worth the £15 to have it unlocked (I'm on a pay as you go handset).

Re: The iPhone thread
 

I have read of WiFi issues with it.

The only geohot thing I've ever used is Blackra1n, purely because the only Dev Team solution for Jailbreaking 3.1.2 was to use PwnageTool, which is Mac only.

It is quite slim, but I think it would get in the way of a dock.

Mrs D's "In Case Slider" has a removable bottom part so the phone can still be docked without removing the whole case.

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Well my orange iphone has arrived!
Setup now with a few free apps until I get home from work and can play with it properly!.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Re: The iPhone thread
 

looking into ordering mine after payday. How is the OS is it the same as the O2 one or have Orange hacked about with it ?

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Apologies if this has been posted before, but from 10th November 02 now let users unlock their iphones for use on other networks.

http://shop.o2.co.uk/update/unlockmyiphone.html

Re: The iPhone thread
 

Nope same. Apple would never let them change the interface and with good reason. The major problem with Android and Windows Mobile is the myriad of different interfaces imposed by handset designers and networks. ugh.