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I dont think anybody would either! and with 1.3mb upload speeds too! I dont think NTL will be able to compete with that.....

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Be: Not available on our exchange. Bulldog: Not available on our exchange. UK Online: Not available on our exchange.

I'd leave NTL at the drop of a hat for any of them. Having said that, it's probably nice and easy for you to say, living in Bromley. :rolleyes:

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an upload of (upto) 1.3meg sounds very appealing.

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Well i will be staying with NTL so that shot that statement down in flames :LOL: :angel: .

Just checked there Address checker. March next year :Yikes: . 2.2 km from the exchange which should give me between 9 to 14 meg. Hardly the 24 that they are saying. But they get away with that by saying up-to :dunce: . Still i am happy with what i have :).



Wonder how long before there is a www.behell.co.uk

Silly me i forgot i just registered that name :LOL:

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Of course, in adspeak 'up to' means 'less than' and 'from' means 'more than' ;)

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:LOL:

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DSL speeds are measured slightly differently from cable speeds.

Fastest usable data throughput you'll see on Be or any other 24Mbit ADSL2+ service is around 21.5Mbit/s download and 1.1Mbps upload.

In the interests of fairness though and by the same token you're unlikely to see 10Mbit 24x7 on cable, already some Telewest customers who have been upgraded to 10Mbit have reported seeing less than 5Mbit most of the time with the odd spike into the 7Mbit territory.

Being honest if I have a choice between ADSL2+ and cable if I'm close enough to the exchange I'll take 2+ every time. My 21.5Mbps would be aggregated onto a gigabit, whereas cable you're dealing with a 10Mbps slice of 38Mbps, the statistical contention works much better on DSL2+ as the contention point is further down the chain.

Anyway isn't this conversation about ntl? :p:

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Well Checking my line here shows maximum of 2mbs from anyone. :(

http://www.broadbandchecker.co.uk

Not a bad site that :D
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They must be upgrading the 38mbps. Otherwise it would not make sene at all, unless they are providing many more 38mbs channels.

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Cable is cherry picked itself, it is in more areas then LLU granted but less areas then BT standard coverage.
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I will put this into perspective for you.

I decided to look at metronet, and this is my obstacle for moving since I have no other viable isp available on cable.

Current price for bb £9.99 month.

If I move I have to do behind my landlord's back plus the following.
Pay for BT line install
Pay for ADSL install
Pay £27.99 for the package I want.
Keep NTL line active as I want the tv.
Pay for BT line removal when I move out.

So amongst spending tons of money on installation/removal I will be paying 2 line rental's and increasing my monthly expenditure. This example is just for me but its not as cut and dried as you think to just simply leave NTL. I have no aerial on the roof either and there is no way I could get away with a sat dish the landlord would almost certianly notice that.
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Put it nicely 10mbit unmetered contended on 38mbit, thats the sort of thing you can expect. I wasnt aware that adsl2+ is contended on a bigger pipe like that if that's so it is a much more higher quality product.

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I believe this is the difference...

when you're on cable you're contended at UBR level sharing a smaller pipe whereas when you're on ADSL you are contended further away (at the exchange). so cos you're further away you're contended on a larger pipe (but with more users).
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nb. if 10meg users end up contended on a 38meg pipe then we're screwed, aren't we?

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maybe we should start a vote on why people stay with NTL.. happy with service.. like the price.. can't get another ISP provider etc

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But what does "upto 24mbit/1.3mbit connection" mean?

They could provide a service that provides that if only one user is connected but you only get half of that if two are connected or a tenth of that if ten are connected. The statement is still valid even if no one could ever achieve the speed unless they were the only one connected.

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not if ntl enforce the cap, well not screwed so bad anyway.

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It means a connection up to 24mbit down and 1.3mbit up, much like NTL's 10mbit service will be upto 10mbit and upto 400k(?) upstream.

Does anyone know the distance form the exchange where the 1.3mbit upstream would drop to below NTL's current 300k offering?

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Thats what I want to know too.

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The point that I was making was that you could get any speed below the stated maximum and the ISP is still providing what they are advertising. Many customers believe that if they subscribe to a particular speed package then there is something wrong if they don't get that speed or very close to it. You could subscribe to a package that offers 24mbit downloads and only get the equivalent of dial-up speeds and the ISP could rightly say that you are getting what is advertised. As ISP's provide faster and faster speeds then the likelihood of getting anywhere near the stated maximum is reduced considerably.

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A very long way, you're talking around the range where BT struggle to deliver 1Mbit, around 5KM of line length or 3.5 - 4KM as the crow flies. I'd guesstimate (well based on some fact!) that 90-95% of the lines in the UK would be capable of 400k+ upstream on ADSL2+
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Find me an ISP Ian that doesn't advertise 'up to'. It's all part of a contended service and the only services that aren't advertising a quoted maximum rather than a guaranteed speed are leased lines.

In my opinion this is a very unfair comparison as with the Be and UKOnline services, as with all DSL services, the maximum speed is limited by line quality and length which isn't an issue with active cable networks.

The 10Mbit that ntl and Telewest advertise is also a maximum 'up to' speed which is governed purely by bandwidth utilisation rather than by line length.

However the advantage that Be and UKO have is that they can purchase a 1Gbit connection from the exchange to their backbone, multiple if required, whereas ntl / Telewest are only able to offer 38Mbps shared to each area.

Apples and oranges it is indeed, but then so is comparing distance limited bandwidth and contention limited. Unless you can change the laws of physics of course.

I'm not being a fanboy or a hater I'm just setting out the facts as they are here. Contention bandwidth wise will be a plague to cable networks for the foreseeable future and distance limitation to DSL based broadband services and that's the nature of the beasts.

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But when they remove the analogue channels they will have loads of network capacity to be able to resegment ubrs and offer many more 38mbs channels thus lowering the contention.

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Resegmentation is irrelevant to the analogue switch off. Analogue switch off frees channels on all segments, however there is already the existing ability to push more than one downstream down a single segment and I'd hope that the network isn't so rammo that there are no 8MHz slots at all free.

Resegmentation itself isn't a magic bullet as it can be massively expensive especially when having to split nodes, pull fibre and build new cabinets. There are only so many nodes that are combined to each card and once you're down to a node a card it starts getting really expensive.

As I said, foreseeable future :) There's also the cost-benefit to consider, how much are you going to break a network down. It still also is unavoidable that 4 10Mbit users can saturate their area, all you can do is minimise that possibility by breaking down to as small an area on each card as possible.

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Out of interest roughly how many people, on average, are there per area?

:edit: That didn't make much sense. I mean how many people is that 38mbit shared between, on average?

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Hehe varies a lot, and I'm not at liberty to divulge node sizes or homes passed per card due to ongoing NDA :)

Piece of string question really, in student areas not many due to their hunger for the bandwidth :)

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if NTL advertise their contention level as 20 to 1 then the top tier is 3meg so a 38meg pipe is shared by the equivalent of approx 250 3meg as an example.
and it takes 13 users or more running on max for speed to suffer.

if they're all upgraded to 10meg then the pipe has to be shared by a max of 76 10meg users - and it takes 4 users or more running on max for speed to suffer.
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conclusion - we're screwed!

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Yeh but no but, this is why file sharing is the crippling to a network as it results in constant traffic, so if each of those 76 users is file sharing then you're screwed.

Everything else is very bursty, a web page here, a ftp there, a VOIP over there, all this traffic fits in for the few ms it takes to transfer those packets of data.

76 people sharing a 38Mb connection, many office infrastructures have more users that that sharing 10Mb over a floor with only backbones etc at 100/1000Mb.

The contrarian view is that these users now they are on 10Mb will shift the traffic they need to accross the network faster and thus create less of a bottleneck at the UBR.

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what about when NTL compete with these LLU 24meg companies and release a 24meg product! all it takes then is a couple of 24meg users maxing out their 38meg pipe and things start to contend big time?

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Thats why that'll come around when the new tech is available to be used. Never can say I've heard of a 24mbit cable ISP?

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24 meg will be served by adsl2+

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now I'm really confused! when NTL go to 24meg we'll be moved to ADSL2+? is that what you're saying? so we'd have to replace our cable modems with ADSL modems?

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If and when the new adsl2+ service is released and i am only going off the press releases that where posted here just like everyone else. Then i don't see anyone being forced across. I think it will be just like any other service that you can sign up to. There has been no further information than was released in the press release that we have all seen posted here. So dates and timescales are not available has yet. I am sure with the good connection this site now has with NTL they will get the information as soon as NTL are ready to release it.

But forcing anyone on to adsl2+ i dont think that will happen.

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so you recon NTL cant provide us with that sort of speed via the cable network?

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No reckon about it, until Channel Bonded / Wideband / Docsis 3 / whatever it's called this week there's no way that any cable company could offer you that sort of speed using standard DOCSIS. Especially as when people can't hit their max speed they whinge like crazy.

However there is a 24Mbit/8Mbit service over EuroDOCSIS 2 in Europe ;)

Only way to offer that sort of speed is with ethernet over coax which requires extensive access/local network build.

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so with 10meg have we hit the max the current cable standard can support?

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No but UK people do whinge when they can't hit their maximum speed that they think they absolutely do pay for, guaranteed, 24x7.
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Office network connections tend to have very different traffic profile from residential services - they tend to not have P2P or Usenet binaries being downloaded on them much :) They are at their busiest first thing in the morning, lunchtime and just before the end of office hours and most of that traffic is email and web, unlike residential networks where the difference between the quiet times and the busy times can be far lower due to sustained transfers.

If ntl were to break network down to the point where there were 76 users on a downstream they would have less than 20 users to each 4.4Mbit upstream and could offer probably a good 1Mbit upload with that.

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Going out on a limb here, but maybe ISPs shouldn't write "upto" in such a small typeface ;)

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I thought that if ntl was to use ADSL2+, they would use it to expand their network, not use it inside it.

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Find me any industry where they write the not so good stuff in as large a type face as the headline sale points.

ADSL2+ http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/sp...272e9d7e79bc28

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Thats not that good.



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They can hardly complain if people aren't fully aware of the facts then. They must factor in that whining costs them less than fully stating the service they really offer. Infact in NTL's case, not having sifted through the T&Cs, I can't see any mention of "speeds upto" on their webpage.

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cheers Bill and Ignition for your explanations.

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Broadband Speed Test Results

Results from broadband speed test recorded on Thursday, 29 September 2005, 10:11.

Your Connection

Direction

Actual Speed

True Speed (estimated)

Downstream 22598 Kbps (2,824.8 KB/sec) 24405 Kbps (inc. overheads) Upstream 1054 Kbps (131.8 KB/sec) 1138 Kbps (inc. overheads)

I love my office network. :D

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Something which has not been discussed or clarified is ntl's mention of the speed boost button (SBB) in their 10Mb upgrade plan.

This would appear to indicate, to me at least, that the future normal speed will be somewhat less than 10Mb until the SBB is clicked. Presumably, clicking the SBB will only boost the speed for a set amount of time otherwise everyone would run at full speed all the time, additionally, I would expect that you will not be able to boost the speed again until the current operation has finished, or a set time has elapsed, otherwise it defeats the object of the SBB which is obviously designed to conserve bandwidth/allow more connections on the pipe.

Another thought is that the SBB would only be available to you until such time that you have used up your cap whereupon the SBB would be totally disabled, this would confirm the previously mentioned statement by ntl of dropping users to a lower speed when their bandwidth is exceeded.

If the above assumptions are correct what is the base speed going to be set at, even setting it at 512kb would still allow ntl to advertise the service as †œup to 10Mb/sâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’‚ÂÂÂ�.

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2,824.8 KB/sec :eek: :spin:

/dribble

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Hmmm... If I recall correctly, even this humble NTL120 Ambit cable modem is actually capable of 34Mbps.

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I'll see your 22598 Kbps and raise you 72701 kbits/sec.

Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:36:46 UTC
1st 128K took 78 ms = 1680410 Bytes/sec = approx 13981 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 31 ms = 4228129 Bytes/sec = approx 35178 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 31 ms = 4228129 Bytes/sec = approx 35178 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 79 ms = 1659139 Bytes/sec = approx 13804 kbits/sec
Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:37:40 UTC
1st 128K took 62 ms = 2114065 Bytes/sec = approx 17589 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 32 ms = 4096000 Bytes/sec = approx 34079 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 15 ms = 8738133 Bytes/sec = approx 72701 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 78 ms = 1680410 Bytes/sec = approx 13981 kbits/sec

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I think what they're saying is even if our cable modems are capable of it, if we all get put on to a high speed like 24meg or 34meg then either the contention will be so crap you'll never likely get top speed or it'd mean massive changes/investments in the UBRs.

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Does any1 know a date for when NTl will start rolling out the upgrades?

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not sure if the samsung STBs are though

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Possibly not.

But, still, Ambit 120s are capable of 34Mbps - but the current system can't cope with that. It's a problem at UBR end, not user end. :)

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BTW for higher speeds don't use Robin Walker's test the sample sizes are just too small and it's not a good indicator of bandwidth :)

ADSLGuide results should not be compared to Robin's.

P.S. I'll take that 77Mbps and raise you

Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:22:35 GMT
1st 128K took 30 ms = 4369067 Bytes/sec = approx 36351 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 40 ms = 3276800 Bytes/sec = approx 27263 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 40 ms = 3276800 Bytes/sec = approx 27263 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 10 ms = 13107200 Bytes/sec = approx 109052 kbits/sec

The joys of a tier 1 ISP and the some of the core network in the same building which you are hooked straight into barring a firewall and a switch ;)
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No they aren't, you won't sustain 34Mbps through an Ambit 120. They'll get flakey considerably before then.
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More than capable for this speed increase.

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The corporate firewall prevents the ADSL guide one running as it is not on port 80.

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I win anyway, any attempt to raise me further just results in me taking laptop to the core switch itself + hooking it straight into the gig without the 100 base switch in between :D

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Ignition stop blagging mate :) you dont have this at home so you cant download from it really ;)

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May not be at home but yes I can if I need to :)

Anyway nice OT bit there will leave this to get back on topic.

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I know you cant directly answer this but I guess its fair to say from this that NTL have got more then 76 users per downstream meaning contention on the 10mbit product is higher then it is at current, how much higher only a few people will know. I heard that when the 600kbit service was standard ntl were pretty much running at around 15:1 which is pretty good for a residental service so the price we paying for higher burst speed is lower quality of service ie. higher contention.

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based on their own rules (ie. the contention ratio of 20 to 1), if they put (for example) all 10meg users on a 38meg downstream then they will have to limit it to 76 users. alternatively they could bung more users on and revise the contention ratio they use.

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can you point to where they specify 20:1 as I have never seen ntl advertise a contention ratio.

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rghit so i need to shoot some of my neigbours then

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Well...I guess thats an option :D

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I dont think they advertise it but that's the level they work at.

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It definitely used to mention 20:1 on the ntl website. Not sure if it still does.

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Well if you work it out this way, max possible download on 10mbit = 3200gig, cap of 75gig on £37.99 then max traffic possible equates to 43:1 contention ratio and thats on the top tier.

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It did for Ireland, when NTL Ireland was under NTL's control (I believe it was actually 17:1 there).

Hasn't in the UK for a long time. :)

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I think the stopped mentioning it as contention on cable is different to contention on DSL

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...al-draws-close
If that merger is true then what what will happen to NTL's new 10mbit? Will it be priced at the same as telewests and have no caps?:dunce:

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BUMP:D

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I know so many people on telewest now that have been upgraded that get 1.2MB/s downloads and ntl hasnt even told anybody about the upload speed yet lol. I think all the people on NTL will be waitin a LONG time.

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I think so too, thats because they said it would be a long while.

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any news on the upload yet

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My friend in Bothwell got his upgrade not the 10MB but free from 512 to 2MB uncapped and could not be happier. Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢d accept this tier on my NTL. 10Mb is too much for me a steady 2MB would be great.



This merger could speed up or slow down NTL upgrade.



God there will be a total re-branding and name changing

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But that's off-net, this is on-net. :)

Not necessarily. Nobody's said there will be! :disturbd:

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You not heard of the one's seeing major congestion then?

Believe me a bunch of 2mbit users sharing 38mbit is better then bunch of 10mbit's sharing 38mbit. But people dont seem to care that its better that they just might reach that speed at 4am but get crap pings below their old speed etc. during peak time.

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I suppose that'd be alright if you only had 5 or 6 people on the 38Mbps link, but that isn't going to happen! :erm:

I think we have to move more towards what other countries have always had - when we're reaching 10Mbps speeds, etc., it's always going to be "up to". If I were to sometimes get 7Mbps, fine - sometimes 9Mbps, even better.

But, at the moment, I don't think the NTL infrastructure can support it. We'll soon see. :)

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Im a customer....I want the best speed for the price I pay....Its common sense m8.

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then complain when you are not getting the full 10meg

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What speed did you sign up for, and at what price?

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How can he complain that he is not getting 10 meg when there are NO users on 10 meg yet with NTL. :rolleyes:.

Gee here we go again

Please see this post> HERE

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3 meg 38 quid a month.

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:rofl:

Go Bill!!!!

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Well i rang ntl on the first of october and they told me to ring back on the 4th october and they will put me on my 10mb connection, i live in the bury area of manchester, im just wondering if anyone else has been told this?

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WOW I hope that true! Im in Bury too

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Hells bells does this meen I should be 10mbit in bolton :confused:

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where abouts im in the whitefield area

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NTL phoned me earlier said there delivering me a ferrari tommorow im in the teeside area not sure about other areas gettin the same though.

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Simple answer Its not true Sorry :(

Don't know about the Ferrari :)

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Will anybody be upgraded tomorrow?

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Sorry but i have heard nothing about upgrades that is why i take it that the last post was not true. I cannot say any more than that Sorry :(

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Bills just teasing use

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Nah I doubt it. Bill wouldnt do that.:angel:

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What he said :)

Sorry Guys

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Well if you just browse you wont have much speed increase its a virtual beneficary for the average user, certian people will benefit like one's who download large files myself included but unless something special happens with traffic shaping or something then we will see a quality drop during busy periods as ubr's get saturated. If that doesn't bother you then fair enough but it does bother me. This should be a bigger problem for telewest then ntl since telewest are allowing rampant downloading on their 10mbit lines. Many people have stated they preffered if current speeds stayed the same but just a cap increase was given instead.

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er i meant when, did you see that word in the sentance? *when* he gets 10meg and yes i know there are no users on 10meg , iwas just sayingthat he is always wanting faster for nothing, sheesh

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Okay, you have my interest. What speed was you on? Also, for the benefit of all of us, post on this thread as much detail as you can so we can (those interested) call NTL and pull tyhe exact same string you have pulled to get onto (or get the learly chance of getting onto) the 10Mb service. It's no good keeping the details to yourself now that you're thrown this worm into the pond.

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Well i rang them on the 1st and said i have heard that you are upgrading all the 3mb customers upto 10mb i rang a few weeks ago and they said to ring back in october.
She said can you give me a moment went for about 2 minutes came back and said if you ring back on the 4th of october and we will be able to do that for you.

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Just phoned NTL - "there's no confirmed dates for the 10Mb upgrade, the roll out for existing 3Mb customers will be December, early January."

:angel:

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Yeah i just rang ntl and they said the same thing, i dont think im going to trust another ntl customer service representitive this is like 3 times they have lied to me, im getting really peed off now.

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always get the name and extention of the person you speak to.

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speed isn't everything and the delay is good news for me. :)

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Personally, I would prefer on-the-fly speed configuration. For instance, maybe for one day in the entire month I may need 10Mb, but notmally 2Mb works fine for me.

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Does anybody know the capacity between the hubsite and headend, is it just 2.5gbit or multiple of these or something different? Thanq

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The bit where you share with local users is 38mbit, or do you mean between that and the ntl central routers?

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Yes, between the ubrs and core network.