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pip08456 17-05-2022 10:27

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OFFICIAL FROM UKRAINE!
53 injured Azovstal troops evacuated to occupied Novoazovsk for medical treatment. 211 more taken to occupied Olenivka.
There will be a prisoner swap!
The rest of the Azovstal garrison is yet to be rescued.
https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/st...11481121419266

Mick 17-05-2022 10:48

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1652780726

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-n...-city-12541713

Chris 17-05-2022 12:25

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The Ukrainians are collecting the shipments in Poland and driving them over the border themselves. So if the Russians have successfully hit a shipment - and that is itself doubtful as they have shown little ability to hit moving targets from a distance so far - then they haven’t directly hit any NATO personnel. Not ones any NATO country would acknowledge were there, anyway.

I think there’s no doubt the Russians fired a missile at something they identified as an arms shipment. Whether it was an arms shipment, and whether their missile landed within 50 yards of it, is another matter entirely.

pip08456 17-05-2022 17:07

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SKY don't seem to have got the story quite right yet (although that's what the Kremlin may be saying).

From what I have gathered from the several verified Ukrainian reporters I follow (as well as other strategists etc) is this.

250+ Azov casualties had been ordered to surrender so they could be evaquated as a prisoner swap deal had been arranged.

53 of the casualties needed urgent medical attention and taken where they can recieve it.

The remainder of the Azov regiment (and others) remain in place as negotiations for their evacuation, possibly to a third Country for the remainder of the conflict, continue.

As always in a conflict zone there are always mixed messages from either side for different reasons. We'll know in a few days.

Mick 18-05-2022 08:57

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BREAKING: Russian gymnast gets 1-year ban for displaying 'Z' on podium.

Ivan Kuliak was seen wearing a taped "Z," Russia's war symbol used by those supporting the invasion of Ukraine, while standing near a Ukrainian athlete on March 6 at the world cup in Qatar. - Kyiv Independent.

pip08456 18-05-2022 12:18

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A little more but still confusion about what's happening at Azovstol via Kyiv Independent.

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Russia claims 959 Ukrainian soldiers taken to captivity from Azovstal.

The Ukrainian authorities said that 264 people were taken from the steel plant in Mariupol to Russian-controlled cities on May 16, and would likely be put up for prisoner exchange.

Ukraine didn't say what the plan was for the troops who remained at Azovstal. Earlier reports by Ukrainian officials suggested that approximately 1,000 people were at the plant.
Volodymyr Zelensky Addresses Cannes Film Festival.

https://twitter.com/olgatokariuk/sta...48094578655239

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1652877786

papa smurf 22-05-2022 08:18

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Putin unleashes bog buster bomb.

VLADIMIR Putin's consolidation of the Russian hold on the Donbas has hit yet another snag, just as Russian forces are humiliated in a mistaken strike on a beach toilet in Odesa.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-donbas-update

1andrew1 22-05-2022 09:51

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A great story

Ukrainian man drives 3,700km to be reunited with parents and fiancee – who live just 10km away
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...just-10km-away

RichardCoulter 23-05-2022 00:14

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36122740)
BREAKING: Russian gymnast gets 1-year ban for displaying 'Z' on podium.

Ivan Kuliak was seen wearing a taped "Z," Russia's war symbol used by those supporting the invasion of Ukraine, while standing near a Ukrainian athlete on March 6 at the world cup in Qatar. - Kyiv Independent.

Good, sounds like he was being deliberately antagonistic and trying to upset the Ukranian athlete to put them off.

There again, he might have been instructed to do it by Putins gang.

1andrew1 23-05-2022 10:44

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I read an interesting article in the FT - "Military briefing: Ukraine seeks way to break Russia’s Black Sea blockade"

It reminded us that Russia's navy has enjoyed a far more successful war than its army has, despite the well-publicised loss of the Moskva.

The recent missiile fired on Lviv that destroyed weapons donated by the West was fired by the Russian navy. And the navy quickly took control of the Black Sea and closed off the Sea of Azov at the start of the war. Ukraine has a tiny navy since Russia took over the Crimea.

Russia has been able to impose a naval blockade that has ended Ukraine's ability to export grain, its main export. Military strategists call this “sea blindness” — the inability to see the crucial role that naval power plays in a country’s security and economy.

Subscriber link:
https://www.ft.com/content/8151ba97-...9-234c532b2481

Halcyon 23-05-2022 15:22

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So how likely do you think it is that Russia will attack the UK with Nuclear weopons and should we be worried?

Chris 23-05-2022 15:38

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Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 36123265)
So how likely do you think it is that Russia will attack the UK with Nuclear weopons and should we be worried?

Extremely unlikely. No rational actor would initiate a nuclear first strike because of the absolute certainty of devastating retaliation. Even if Putin isn’t rational, plenty of the people who would actually be asked to carry out the nuclear order are.

As for worry, well an ongoing interest in world affairs is healthy, but don’t worry.

pip08456 23-05-2022 21:55

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Seems some Russians are finally waking up to reality.

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Russia’s Counsellor to the United Nations in Geneva has resigned.

Boris Bondarev: “Never have I been so ashamed of my country.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...raine-invasion

Here's the statement.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1653339155

Also this may be worth a read re-Russian Air Forces.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...kraine/629803/

joglynne 24-05-2022 10:42

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Thanks for the links pip. Very interesting. Just hope Mr Bondarev doesn't have a nasty accident. He's a very brave man to speak out so publically against Putin.

pip08456 24-05-2022 17:18

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Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 36123366)
Thanks for the links pip. Very interesting. Just hope Mr Bondarev doesn't have a nasty accident. He's a very brave man to speak out so publically against Putin.

You're joglynne. I wonder if Mr Bondarev will be confident in returning home or if he will seek refuge in another Country

I'm also surprised no Senior Air Force Commanders have yet been suspended and replaced.


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