Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36006045)

Possibly nothing...but there are two HD streams on TSid104 (CO33) on DigitalBitRate. One currently with a screengrab of BBC News (or another BBC channel simulcasting it), that started on 13th according to my reading of the graph, the other with Ideal World, which has a graph line only starting today (15th).

The odd thing about all this is that TSid104 has now been removed from the whole VM network overnight according to, the much more knowledgeable than me on this subject, jj20x on Forumbox. He was saying the migration of services completed from that multiplex with the moving of two versions of ITV HD. So what DBR is showing doesn't make a lot of sense.

Looking further down the DBR page there is evidence of the changes jj20x mentions on Forumbox. There are now two versions of TSid 102 (CO57 & CO59). On one version there used to be two versions of ITV, ITV+1,ITV HD, C4, C4+1, C4 HD, C4 AD. Half of those have shut on the CO57 version, but a new ITV HD has been added.

All these removals on CO57 mentioned above have moved to CO59, along with a new version of ITV Wales HD. JJ20X had been talking recently about VM dealing with regional differences in the network in Manchester and Wrexham and this seems to be it. They both have been split into two separate versions of the same multiplex, where they both used to be mostly crammed onto the one multiplex, with another being used for the overspill.

Obviously this all only affects a few VM customers, those in those two regions, but they will have to re-add their Favourites presumably, though I'm guessing it's the mostly customers who get the Wrexham region.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36006434)

CO33 was broadcasting an channel named ITV HD (We forgot the name of the other one but that screengrab is BBC ONE) the last week until Virgin moved them to other streams (CO).

---------- Post added at 15:59 ---------- Previous post was at 15:56 ----------

(sans nom - PID10402) - Was ITV HD
(sans nom - PID10407) - Was BBC One HD

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36006445)

I know, I said that (or thought I was :) ) but used different words. My point was that that Tsid104 multiplex wasn't meant to be showing any more. And the graphs indicated the streams had just started on 13/15th. I just thought the whole thing was odd given none of it should have been showing up based on my understanding of the moves done.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36006454)

The channels did not appeared in one day (Info from JJ20X and Forum Box) it happen over three days (Tuesday to Thursday.

Due to ITV being an so called local channel is best to keep your eyes on Forum Box and JJ20X for info on ITV HD Channels as DRB is just lists BBC One North West area (Liverpool).

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36006540)

JJ20X on Forumbox has posted that Sky Select HD has swapped with Sky Premiere +1 on the EPG. I've not had a chance to check.

So channel numbers 402 and 412 are swapping places.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36006858)

l wonder if they will be two new channels just exclusive to Sky like Sky Atlantic?.

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36006859)

The article has said some have speculated they may be replacements for Sky2 and Real Lives.

I find it odd a new crime channel is starting, given the how multiple channels exist and have even closed, suggesting the fad has either passed or the market is saturated.