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Stephen 17-07-2018 23:26

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The man is an absolute farce.

No it wasn't the Russians and now he said he spoke the wrong words, lmao.

Hugh 18-07-2018 07:47

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Interesting redaction from his semi-retraction speech.

Trump apparently crossed out the phrase “anyone involved in that meddling to justice” out of his typed comments...

ianch99 18-07-2018 09:03

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35954976)
The man is an absolute farce.

No it wasn't the Russians and now he said he spoke the wrong words, lmao.

Moron is probably a more accurate description?

I wonder how many of his core supporters are now in a quandary? On the one hand they voted for Trump but on the other they would consider themselves patriots and Putin is their instinctive foe. Siding with Putin against Americans would not be an easy thing for them to accept.

Hugh 18-07-2018 10:07

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35954996)
Moron is probably a more accurate description?

I wonder how many of his core supporters are now in a quandary? On the one hand they voted for Trump but on the other they would consider themselves patriots and Putin is their instinctive foe. Siding with Putin against Americans would not be an easy thing for them to accept.

Resolving that dichotomy is easy for them - they just repeat Trump's mantra of "fake news".

Mr K 18-07-2018 10:50

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35955004)
Resolving that dichotomy is easy for them - they just repeat Trump's mantra of "fake news".

You mean the words Trump spoke out of his mouth were fake, or dubbed on by the fake media ? Personally I don't think the Russia trip happened at all, and it all mass fake hysteria caused by Clinton and/or Obama ;)

pip08456 18-07-2018 11:06

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Dichotomy, dichotomy, they all want to put their dichotomy!

Mick 18-07-2018 11:26

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The 12 Russians who were indicted by Robert Mueller last week will not see the light of day in a U.S Court room, it's just window dressing at it's finest by the Special Counsel. The timing of his announcement was suspicious though.

pip08456 18-07-2018 11:45

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35955022)
The 12 Russians who were indicted by Robert Mueller last week will not see the light of day in a U.S Court room, it's just window dressing at it's finest by the Special Counsel. The timing of his announcement was suspicious though.

A bit like Comey's annoncement of the email investigation re-opening then.

Hugh 18-07-2018 12:22

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35955027)
A bit like Comey's annoncement of the email investigation re-opening then.

And his not mentioning that members of the Trump Campaign were subject to a FBI counterintelligence investigation into links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government from July 2016...

Damien 18-07-2018 12:45

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35955022)
The 12 Russians who were indicted by Robert Mueller last week will not see the light of day in a U.S Court room, it's just window dressing at it's finest by the Special Counsel. The timing of his announcement was suspicious though.

Everyone knows Russia won't extradite but that doesn't stop the justice process getting as far as it can.

Mick 18-07-2018 13:51

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35955032)
And his not mentioning that members of the Trump Campaign were subject to a FBI counterintelligence investigation into links between the Trump campaign and the Russian government from July 2016...

That might be because the two investigations were vastly different, Candidate Trump was not personally under investigation, Hillary Clinton was. Comey was wrong to make public announcements on Clinton, the DOJ IG was very critical of Comey’s actions.

ianch99 18-07-2018 16:42

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35955004)
Resolving that dichotomy is easy for them - they just repeat Trump's mantra of "fake news".

Are they all that stupid? I think not ..

Mr K 18-07-2018 20:35

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35955085)
Are they all that stupid? I think not ..

No, but enough of them are it seems.

Hugh 19-07-2018 14:37

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This was on a Russian State TV discussion programme on Tuesday.
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Russia's state TV host: "It is very bizarre, you can't bash your own country like that - especially when you're the President."

Olga Skabeeva: "When Trump says our relations are bad because of American foolishness and stupidity, he really smells like an agent of the Kremlin."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmgHe3...outu.be&t=2842 (in Russian)

Seems a very strange thing for a host on Russian State TV to say - their output is controlled by the Russian Government, and they are never critical of Putin.

Damien 20-07-2018 17:33

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/u...rump-tape.html

The FBI have a recording of Trump discussing the payments to the playboy model before the election. This seems to explain why they raided Cohen’s office.


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