Cable Forum - Brexit discussion

I swear this forum uses 'Democracy' without any care for how democracies actually work. Anytime the notion of compromise, unpopular decisions or even an idea is floated that isn't liked out come the cries of 'democracy'. As if every democracy should decide every policy via what currently has 50%.

Spot on.

heero_yuy

22-01-2018 11:41

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Britain is set to thrive in years to come as a boost in economic growth dwarfs the hit from Brexit, a Remain-backing former minister predicted today.

Jim O’Neill, an ex-banker who became a Treasury minister under George Osborne, admitted that dire forecasts about a Brexit crash had not come true.

And he said that even if quitting the EU reduces growth by as much as 3 per cent, that will be hugely outweighed by the effects of the booming world economy.

Lord O’Neill, a former senior executive at Goldman Sachs, backed Remain during the 2016 referendum and quit the Government shortly after Theresa May took over.

But he told the BBC today: "I certainly wouldn't have thought the UK economy would be as robust as it currently seems.

"That is because some parts of the country, led by the North West, are actually doing way better than people seem to realise or appreciate.

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So the good news way more than compenastes for any Brexit hit. :)

Must have stuck in his craw to have to say that. :D

Hugh	22-01-2018 13:40

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35933399)

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So the good news way more than compenastes for any Brexit hit. :)

Must have stuck in his craw to have to say that. :D

Think what the growth would have been without the impact of Brexit?

heero_yuy

22-01-2018 14:18

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35933408)

Think what the growth would have been without the impact of Brexit?

We can conjecture about that as much as we like. Fact is we still robust growth which the remainers said wouldn't happen and it could be argued that the dip in sterling as a result of the Brexit vote is a stimulus to the exporters that would not have otherwise happened.

Hugh	22-01-2018 14:25

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35933412)

Agreed - but we need also to bear in mind the hit those who require imports or imported material are undergoing.

We need to see the whole picture, not just the bit that reinforces our biases...

Carth

22-01-2018 16:12

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35933413)

We need to see the whole picture, not just the bit that reinforces our biases...

It's a pity that phrase hasn't been used more freely over the last 12 months or so, it may have saved a few arguments on here :D

denphone

22-01-2018 16:15

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35933417)

It's a pity that phrase hasn't been used more freely over the last 12 months or so, it may have saved a few arguments on here :D

Oh l don't know there are some pretty entrenched views on here.:)

1andrew1

22-01-2018 18:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35933419)

Oh l don't know there are some pretty entrenched views on here.:)

No there's not. :D

Hugh	22-01-2018 18:44

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35933430)

No there's not. :D

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/01/10.jpg

Boris and David Davis...

They're behind you!!!

1andrew1

22-01-2018 21:19

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35933432)

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/01/11.jpg

Boris and David Davis...

They're behind you!!!

Current affairs forum protocol insists I must point out that those two are in fact the anti-democratic Clegg and Blair. Sometimes we see what we want to see. :D

Maggy

24-01-2018 11:42

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8174306.html

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Jeremy Hunt has admitted that British patients may find it difficult to get EU cancer drugs if Brexit talks break down, describing the risk as “uniquely damaging”.

The Health Secretary was being pushed for details of his department’s preparations for the event of a “no deal” scenario, which could cause major disruption to the supply of life-saving medications and see more pharmaceuticals companies shift operations to the EU.

Drug giants have told of “significant disruption to the supply chain for medicines” and that customs delays would damage “time and temperature sensitive” materials, without a Brexit deal.

Did anyone who voted to leave saw this possibility and I wonder how many might be affected?

Mick	24-01-2018 13:23

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Another Brexit scare story me thinks, key word ‘could’, not ‘would’. There are lots of things that got put forward that ‘could’ happen right after the Brexit vote, they didn’t. Enough said. :rolleyes:

Maggy

24-01-2018 13:33

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35933719)

Well everything about Brexit on both sides has been 'could' not 'would' apart from the claim about the £350 million being saved to give to the NHS.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2018/01/13.jpg

Mick	24-01-2018 13:40

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Oh FFS, the red bus argument. Not going there, done to bloody death!

Not even remotely sure where the word 'would' was used, pretty sure it said 'Let's give'. But as I said, been here many many times before, tired argument that Remainers clutch at.

Maggy

24-01-2018 17:02

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35933723)

And Brexiteers are very fond of using the samo,samo arguments.

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