Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35904034)

Mexico have got a nice new line in Trump bog roll. Do you think Sainsbury's stock it ? ;)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...tness-without/

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35904244)

Seems the Donalds invite has been quietly forgotten, no mention in Queenie's speech. We don't want him and he doesn't want to come. Threats of a bare bottomed protest may have put him off, it would have given me pause for thought....
http://globalnews.ca/news/3518112/do...n-bum-protest/

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35904267)

The Government has said the trip is 'still going to happen' but the fact it's not listed as a state visit this year probably means it's later in his term. That's more keeping with historical precedent anyway, it wasn't normal to offer the visit in his first year but was clearly to designed to help with any trade deal. A plan I always thought was nonsense because years of work could be undone by a early morning Tweet from the man himself lambasting the UK or the deal.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35904269)

It had been pencilled in for October 2017 but clearly won't happen then, if at all.
http://www.politico.eu/article/trump...ctober-report/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/306425...it-before-him/

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35904265)

I'm sure that the Trumpster's biggest defenders will be wondering how to respond to that, given their slightly desperate denials of the many earlier reports in the media.

What's more significant is that American industry now realises that Trump is pretty powerless so it can continue its existing strategies and ignore any adverse tweets from him. For example, Ford will now make the Focus not in Mexico, not in the US...but in China.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...2019-exec.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40345592
https://www.rt.com/usa/393298-ford-f...-trump-mexico/

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35904272)

The first link suggests it might not be a State Visit. That would allow him to come this year and explain it not being in the speech.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35904274)

What is there to wonder ? Apart from it being another, boring let's get another opportunity to bash Trump with less than an accurate account of what's really going on.

And nothing desperate about my earlier responses to media reports as I still stand by them based off official information that was released at the time. ! :rolleyes:

As for Ford making the focus in China. Does Ford only make one type of car model now ? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35904288)

Good point but I suspect both governments will have their hands full of other matters this year. Trump will be trying to get his Muslim travel ban in place and Mexican wall built whilst trying to avoid the Russian investigation. Theresa May will be arguing how large a settlement the country should cough up. Latest reports in The Telegraph say £2bn. ;)

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You've missed the point as much as Theresa May misses her inherited Parliamentry majority. Ford no longer fears the President and yet another of his claimed victories is no more. The Standard describes the situation quite succinctly:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35904295)

No it doesn't.

You and The Standard have their facts misconstrued in a totally gung-ho fashion.



Sounds bad, BUT here is the BUT.........



http://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/n...xico/746153291

Cannot see anything in that announcement that is devastating news for the U.S Jobs market. It's interesting when you delve a little deeper, rather than believe stuff, at face value, a problem you and some others have.

Thus, I have not missed any point actually.

As for the other failures mentioned in The Standard.

No wall that is thousands of miles long, can be built in 6 months. Pointed this out to you before.

Obamacare, it's not concluded yet.

The Travel ban, is being taken down the SC route, so it's not quite failed, they could overrule 9th Circuit Judge(s) and invoke his Executive Order or they may not, to say it's failed, means it's final.

They would be colossal failures, if he had not done all he said he was, by the end of his term(s), not months in to his early presidency.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35904296)

Yes it's always worth delving a little deeper where the Donald's concerned, like when he spent $7 million dollars to save less than 800 jobs

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3188843

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35904333)

But if we are going to bring in what seems silly spending amounts, that was extremely wasteful spending, was the DNC spending $30,000,000 trying to get their candidate Jon Ossoff, into Congress in the State of Georgia and still losing to the Republican, Karen Handel. Record crazy spending amount for not even a Mid-term Election.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35904350)

If you combine the Democrat and Republican spending in that one congressional district in Georgia, not even the whole state, more money was spent in that election than our general. :erm:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35904333)

To which has absolutely nothing to do with what was being discussed about Ford, do keep up. But yes let's delve a little deeper. He did not actually spend it, it was a tax break deal and keeping those jobs actually saves more than that amount in unemployment benefits, given average weekly state benefit is about $400. So do the maths..... $400 x 750 x 26 (weeks claimable) = $7,800,000.
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