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ozsat 01-04-2022 13:20

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Sky Sports will make the ICC Women’s Cricket World Cup final between England and Australia this Sunday available for the whole of the UK to watch on Sky Showcase, PICK and the Sky Sports YouTube channel.

Mad Max 01-04-2022 19:45

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:sulk:

Carth 01-04-2022 20:01

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It won't get the viewing figures of women's beach volleyball, that's for sure :D

Mad Max 02-04-2022 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36117972)
It won't get the viewing figures of women's beach volleyball, that's for sure :D

:D:D

Media Boy UK 04-04-2022 18:26

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Emma Raducanu rise 'enticed Sky Sports to outbid Amazon' for US Open broadcasting rights

Emma Raducanu fever is still making an impact more than six months after the British teenager won the US Open. Aged 18, she became the first qualifier in history to win a Grand Slam title when she hoisted the trophy in Flushing Meadows. After her US Open triumph, Sky Sports have bought the rights to air the tournament three years after getting rid of tennis from their broadcast.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tenn...ts-tennis-news

Media Boy UK 08-04-2022 11:56

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TelcoTitans: BT Sport boss exits ahead of Discovery merger

Simon Green, Head of BT Sport for the past decade, is set to leave the business this week.

(Story was first posted March 29th)

See for free: https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-bt-sport.html

Real link: https://www.telcotitans.com/btwatch/...3IkEH0.twitter

Media Boy UK 08-04-2022 17:16

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Discovery revs up Speedway coverage

Every race to be shown on Eurosport 2 HD and Discovery+

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...yZxrbo.twitter

Media Boy UK 22-04-2022 16:55

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Broadcast: BT Sport close to UFC extension

Quote:

BT Sport is reportedly close to extending its rights deal for UFC in the UK and Ireland.

SportBusiness reports that the broadcaster has faced competition from Sky Sports and DAZN, which has driven the price up for a deal that lasts until at least the end of 2025. BT Sport’s current deal finishes at the end of this year and it has held the rights since its launch. For DAZN, missing out on the rights comes after also failing in its attempt to acquire BT Sport earlier this year.

Apparently, DAZN, BT Sport, and Sky Sports were joined by Discovery, Amazon Prime Video, and Nordic Entertainment Group in holding negotiations with UFC commercial sales agent IMG over a UK deal.

BT Sport picking up the rights may also be a win for Discovery, which is currently in negotiations with BT over a joint venture that these rights would likely be included in - with plans to launch later this year.
https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...169747.article

Media Boy UK 23-04-2022 01:08

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BT Sport has got LIVE UK and Ireland broadcasting TV Rights to Canadian Premier League.

telegramsam 23-04-2022 10:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36119857)
BT Sport has got LIVE UK and Ireland broadcasting TV Rights to Canadian Premier League.

Canadian Premier League football?

muppetman11 23-04-2022 11:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36119866)
Canadian Premier League football?

https://canpl.ca/

jfman 24-04-2022 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36119827)
Broadcast: BT Sport close to UFC extension

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...169747.article

Oh dear this was deep pockets DAZN's next target after La Liga UK rights looked to go elsewhere.

telegramsam 24-04-2022 15:50

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Just seen Chelsea striker win a penalty,one of the softest you'll see in my opinion. To add insult to the west ham defender he got a red card for it!

ozsat 24-04-2022 16:12

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Just saw a Chelsea player getting confused the same way as a Manchester United player yesterday. What is with the audition for Strictly Come Dancing before taking a penalty kick?

telegramsam 24-04-2022 17:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36119957)
Just saw a Chelsea player getting confused the same way as a Manchester United player yesterday. What is with the audition for Strictly Come Dancing before taking a penalty kick?

Agree but justice done in my opinion as didn't think was a penalty anyway

Raider999 24-04-2022 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36119959)
Agree but justice done in my opinion as didn't think was a penalty anyway


All the hop skip and a jump whilst running up to take a penalty should be banned

TimeLord2018 25-04-2022 10:53

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Viaplay acquires NHL, KSW rights in UK
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Viaplay to show National Hockey League (NHL), the world's best ice hockey league, through the 2026-2027 season in UK, extending partnership to 10 European markets
Live events from KSW, Europe's leading MMA promotion, to be broadly available in UK for first time
Addition of live sports to Viaplay's UK offering announced in March

From late 2022 through the 2026-2027 season, NHL fans in the UK will be able to stream every regular season game live on Viaplay, including all NHL Saturday and NHL Sunday games, together with the Stanley Cup Playoffs, Stanley Cup Final and other marquee events, including the NHL Winter Classic, NHL All-Star Game, NHL Stadium Series, NHL Heritage Classic and NHL Global Series. The agreement extends Viaplay and the NHL's long-term partnership to 10 European markets.

Based in Poland, KSW enjoys a passionate following, and its live events feature top Polish and international MMA competitors. Viaplay and KSW are now working together in 11 countries, and the first KSW event shown on Viaplay in the UK will be in late 2022.
https://www.nentgroup.com/news/news-...aming-offering

Media Boy UK 25-04-2022 11:59

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NHL is on Premier Sports right now.

WBD need to buy Premier Sports as PS is very low on live TV Rights.

1andrew1 25-04-2022 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36120041)
Viaplay acquires NHL, KSW rights in UK

https://www.nentgroup.com/news/news-...aming-offering

Wow, yet another sports subscription service!

alwaysabear 25-04-2022 20:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36120052)
Wow, yet another sports subscription service!

I have not seen much NHL since it was on ESPN ,loved watching Hockey night in Canada with Don Cherry.

TimeLord2018 25-04-2022 22:46

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Isn't just a sports subscription service though , Viaplay Originals (at least 60 in 2022), acquired series and films and Kids content aswell.

MGM signed a production and development deal with them last year
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...es-1235045582/

jfman 26-04-2022 07:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36120052)
Wow, yet another sports subscription service!

Another one for the graveyard I suspect.

Rillington 26-04-2022 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36120050)
NHL is on Premier Sports right now.

WBD need to buy Premier Sports as PS is very low on live TV Rights.

So does this mean that Premier Sports has lost the rights to show the NHL?

ozsat 26-04-2022 19:31

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A quick look over the next few weeks shows: NHL, Danish Speedway, United Rugby Championship, La Liga, Elite League Ice Hockey, NASCAR, Top 14 Rugby Union, Rugby League Championship, Swedish Speedway. And Premier League Football in Ireland.

Seems to be the usual amount of live coverage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36120050)
NHL is on Premier Sports right now.

WBD need to buy Premier Sports as PS is very low on live TV Rights.


TimeLord2018 26-04-2022 19:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36120180)
So does this mean that Premier Sports has lost the rights to show the NHL?

From next season it looks like it yes , there also set to lose La Liga to Fite next season aswell.

1701-e 26-04-2022 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36120196)
From next season it looks like it yes , there also set to lose La Liga to Fite next season aswell.

Another streaming service... Great stuff.... Said nobody

jfman 26-04-2022 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36120200)
Another streaming service... Great stuff.... Said nobody

Not quite nobody I suspect ;)

One maybe.

1andrew1 27-04-2022 13:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36120196)
From next season it looks like it yes , there also set to lose La Liga to Fite next season aswell.

I think La Liga should know better than to chase such unknown streamers. (Eleven Sports, anyone?)

It's not a way to get their league watched in the UK, they need to go for a more mainstream broadcaster.

OLD BOY 27-04-2022 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120203)
Not quite nobody I suspect ;)

One maybe.

Certainly not me. I acknowledge that it’s expensive to subscribe to all the sports streamers if sport is your thing.

Additionally, live streaming on them isn’t that good at the moment either.

Raider999 27-04-2022 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120287)
Certainly not me. I acknowledge that it’s expensive to subscribe to all the sports streamers if sport is your thing.

Additionally, live streaming on them isn’t that good at the moment either.


Wow - has the worm turned? OB admitting that Streaming is expensive!

OLD BOY 28-04-2022 07:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36120313)
Wow - has the worm turned? OB admitting that Streaming is expensive!

For sport it is, yes, because they are spread amongst too many providers. Consolidation may happen with time.

bluecatt73 28-04-2022 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120333)
For sport it is, yes, because they are spread amongst too many providers. Consolidation may happen with time.

But this is the opposite of what's happening. Sports rights are increasingly fragmenting.

1andrew1 28-04-2022 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecatt73 (Post 36120337)
But this is the opposite of what's happening. Sports rights are increasingly fragmenting.

Yes and no. I suspect many of the newer players except Amazon will exit the market in five years.

Consolidation
  • BT Sport and Eurosport UK are combining.
  • Premier Sports acquired use of the Box Nation brand.

Fragmentation - new entrants
  • Amazon
  • DAZN
  • Fite
  • Viasport

Exits
  • Eleven Sports
  • ESPN
  • Setanta
  • ITV pay-per-view

jfman 28-04-2022 14:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120333)
For sport it is, yes, because they are spread amongst too many providers. Consolidation may happen with time.

I’m glad that you accept that ultimately the failure of many of these streamers in their own right - given the absence of viable business models - is desirable.

TimeLord2018 28-04-2022 18:31

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I noticed Premier Sports isn't available on either Sky Glass or Virgin Media stream.

1andrew1 28-04-2022 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36120420)
I noticed Premier Sports isn't available on either Sky Glass or Virgin Media stream.

Agreed.

I also see that sister channel FreeSports has made it to VM Stream but not to Sky Glass.

Itshim 28-04-2022 18:53

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Didn't really listen to radio story but it sounded as if the government is going to make a number of national team sports ,must be first offered to free to air broadcaster's .

Richardr 28-04-2022 19:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120287)
Additionally, live streaming on them isn’t that good at the moment either.

Not sure that is necessarily the case. Assuming you are talking about the picture, on BT Sport Ultimate it is 4K and HDR streamed on both the Xbox and the Roku (and no doubt others), and looks better than any broadcast platform. On SkyQ and my LG TV the Amazon Prime football picture is as good as any broadcast platform.

jfman 28-04-2022 20:49

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On Now (with Boost) it’s 1080p50. Whereas broadcast Sky Sports HD is 1080i.

OLD BOY 29-04-2022 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120380)
I’m glad that you accept that ultimately the failure of many of these streamers in their own right - given the absence of viable business models - is desirable.

I do accept that this is the case for the sports streamers. However, for dramas, films, documentaries and basically all categories that are not sport-related, a good choice of streamers is a good thing.

Some people moan about not having enough to watch, yet they complain that there is too much choice, which I find curious, to say the least.

jfman 29-04-2022 09:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120446)
I do accept that this is the case for the sports streamers. However, for dramas, films, documentaries and basically all categories that are not sport-related, a good choice of streamers is a good thing.

Some people moan about not having enough to watch, yet they complain that there is too much choice, which I find curious, to say the least.

There’s nothing curious about not wanting to be hit in the pocket to fund loss making operations propped up by venture capital or the hopes and dreams of Silicon Valley.

The longer they stay in the market they drive up content costs for consumers, businesses with viable business models and even the free to air market. There’s nothing, absolutely nothing, desirable about that.

TimeLord2018 29-04-2022 11:19

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Channel 4 wins rights to England's European Qualifiers and UEFA Nations League matches
https://www.channel4.com/press/news/...league-matches

1701-e 29-04-2022 11:25

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And sky sports subscribers await a price reduction lol

OLD BOY 29-04-2022 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120453)
There’s nothing curious about not wanting to be hit in the pocket to fund loss making operations propped up by venture capital or the hopes and dreams of Silicon Valley.

The longer they stay in the market they drive up content costs for consumers, businesses with viable business models and even the free to air market. There’s nothing, absolutely nothing, desirable about that.

So you think that the non-sports streamers are costlier than Sky? I don’t buy that, although it’s true that if you subscribe to them all at the same time, that is more expensive.

As for sports, it is most certainly a problem that these are scattered over so many streamers, but I do expect there will be consolidation over time.

Incidentally, the inroads into football are showing no signs of abating.

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ll_484573.html

[EXTRACT]

The agreement with UEFA will see Viaplay replace Sky Sports as the exclusive UK home of European qualifiers for the 2026 World Cup 2026, Euro 2028 and the Nations League from 2024 to 2027, in addition to international friendlies.


Viaplay also gains the rights from Sky to all of those competitions involving other European national teams, apart from England but including the likes of France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Germany and Spain.

muppetman11 29-04-2022 13:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36120471)
And sky sports subscribers await a price reduction lol

Why should you expect a reduction ?

1andrew1 29-04-2022 14:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120473)
So you think that the non-sports streamers are costlier than Sky? I don’t buy that, although it’s true that if you subscribe to them all at the same time, that is more expensive.

I think the proviso that you subscribe to them all at the same time is the only fair way of comparing costs.

Sky's entertainment content has been fragmented since Disney + started thereby increasing prices for those fans of Fox content.

The costs of Sky Entertainment (or Now TV entertainment pack) on its own have always been cheaper than Sky Entertainment & Disney Plus.

With the advent of HBO Plus in the future, costs for existing content are only likely to increase. There won't be consolidation between Comcast, Warner Brothers Discovery, Walt Disney, Amazon and Apple even if there is consolidation amongst other providers.

nialli 29-04-2022 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36120471)
And sky sports subscribers await a price reduction lol

Like the one we never saw when Sky lost the Champions and Europa League games to BT? I won't be holding my breath

jfman 29-04-2022 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36120491)
I think the proviso that you subscribe to them all at the same time is the only fair way of comparing costs.

Indeed.

The type of user who goes from one streamer to another every month isn’t having a representative experience of a Sky/Virgin pay-tv subscriber before this revolution.

They are also undesirable for the streamer in any case. Imagine the losses if everyone did that.

nialli 29-04-2022 16:08

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I do it all the time. One in, one out every few months. The only problem I get is Sky Atlantic on Now - any new HBO series are only available in a blink-or-you'll-miss-it short window.

1andrew1 29-04-2022 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 36120501)
I do it all the time. One in, one out every few months. The only problem I get is Sky Atlantic on Now - any new HBO series are only available in a blink-or-you'll-miss-it short window.

I can see some people on this forum doing it, but I don't think this kind of approach is typical.

Mad Max 29-04-2022 17:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 36120501)
I do it all the time. One in, one out every few months. The only problem I get is Sky Atlantic on Now - any new HBO series are only available in a blink-or-you'll-miss-it short window.

I do the same, the only one I keep is Now TV for the same reason as you, Sky Atlantic.

1andrew1 29-04-2022 17:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120498)
Indeed.

The type of user who goes from one streamer to another every month isn’t having a representative experience of a Sky/Virgin pay-tv subscriber before this revolution.

They are also undesirable for the streamer in any case. Imagine the losses if everyone did that.

Agreed. It's not a viable solution for most people to adopt this approach as there would be no streaming market left!

1701-e 29-04-2022 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 36120494)
Like the one we never saw when Sky lost the Champions and Europa League games to BT? I won't be holding my breath

Exactly... They must be feeling the squeeze if they didn't bid enough

johnasimmons 30-04-2022 06:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36120504)
I do the same, the only one I keep is Now TV for the same reason as you, Sky Atlantic.



I do the same as well

jfman 30-04-2022 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36120528)
Exactly... They must be feeling the squeeze if they didn't bid enough

They will be - certainly if these new entrants insist upon pushing rights values beyond where even they can make a return.

This isn’t new in the pay-tv market. ITV Digital with Football League rights, Setanta with EPL rights.

Sky (and BT) have naturally focussed on what gets bread and butter, year round subscriptions. Something that none of the minority interest content elsewhere provides (and with the best will in the world to international football, it doesn’t either).

OLD BOY 30-04-2022 10:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36120491)
I think the proviso that you subscribe to them all at the same time is the only fair way of comparing costs.

Sky's entertainment content has been fragmented since Disney + started thereby increasing prices for those fans of Fox content.

The costs of Sky Entertainment (or Now TV entertainment pack) on its own have always been cheaper than Sky Entertainment & Disney Plus.

With the advent of HBO Plus in the future, costs for existing content are only likely to increase. There won't be consolidation between Comcast, Warner Brothers Discovery, Walt Disney, Amazon and Apple even if there is consolidation amongst other providers.

It's not appropriate to compare costs alone. You have to take into account the amount of content you watch from the streamers and the quality of that content (in terms of your personal choices). If you compare the costs of ALL the streamers when you might only need, say three of them, you are not getting the true cost to the individual.

It is obvious that the more good quality content that is available, the more it will cost. But that's not the same as saying the streamers are more expensive, particularly if you have the choice of what you subscribe to.

The same principle applies to the channels. You wouldn't count the cost of a Sky subscription with the premium channels included if you were not interested in watching sport or films.

---------- Post added at 10:46 ---------- Previous post was at 10:41 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120498)
Indeed.

The type of user who goes from one streamer to another every month isn’t having a representative experience of a Sky/Virgin pay-tv subscriber before this revolution.

They are also undesirable for the streamer in any case. Imagine the losses if everyone did that.

I don't think many change their streamers every month, but I would imagine that those who vary their subscriptions stick with a streamer until they've seen what they want to see, and then change to another streamer. That change might come after several months or maybe over a couple of years, but that way you can see content from multiple streamers, but spread over a period of time. That represents very good value for money to me.

I think the Sky channels represent poor value for money in terms of their content.

jfman 30-04-2022 11:00

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Let me get this straight - to get the depth and breadth of content that used to be available routinely in packages from incumbent pay-tv providers customers will have to wait months and years until they decide to move on to whatever streamer now holds the content for it to be cheaper?

And this is a better solution?

Priceless.

OLD BOY 30-04-2022 14:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120609)
Let me get this straight - to get the depth and breadth of content that used to be available routinely in packages from incumbent pay-tv providers customers will have to wait months and years until they decide to move on to whatever streamer now holds the content for it to be cheaper?

And this is a better solution?

Priceless.

What ‘depth and breadth’ are you referring to? The streamers cater for just about everything, but you only pay for what you want.

As streaming becomes ever more established, you will find an increasing number of AVOD services as well.

jfman 30-04-2022 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120628)
What ‘depth and breadth’ are you referring to? The streamers cater for just about everything, but you only pay for what you want.

All of the content previously on incumbent providers that is now on a streaming/minority interest services.

You do indeed "only pay for the content you watch" however with the lost economies of scale that incumbent providers had costs rise for the end users. Or they have sub-optimal experiences like you suggest above with less choice on a given day. Instead having to meticulously plan which streaming services to have on a given month being the narrow set of circumstances where costs are actually saves.

Quote:

As streaming becomes ever more established, you will find an increasing number of AVOD services as well.
And I'll be no better off.

1andrew1 30-04-2022 18:36

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I see the FT is reporting that Access Industries is likely to inject another £140m into loss-making DAZN just a few months after the streamer's last bailout.

I'm struggling to see who's winning in this brave new world apart from the sports bodies perhaps.

TimeLord2018 30-04-2022 18:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36119947)
Oh dear this was deep pockets DAZN's next target after La Liga UK rights looked to go elsewhere.

BT are set to pay almost double according to this
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.co...2022/04/26/UFC

jfman 30-04-2022 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36120650)
I see the FT is reporting that Access Industries is likely to inject another £140m into loss-making DAZN just a few months after the streamer's last bailout.

I'm struggling to see who's winning in this brave new world apart from the sports bodies perhaps.

That’ll buy you about 15 of Sky’s Premiership games in one season. Or all of Amazon’s for three.

jfman 01-05-2022 03:41

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Outside the UK the app broadcasting the ladies dust up this evening quick to throw in the betting odds (plus sponsor) during the first round.

Another sign of the rather unpleasant future of revenue generation for failed pay-tv providers.

OLD BOY 01-05-2022 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120631)
All of the content previously on incumbent providers that is now on a streaming/minority interest services.

You do indeed "only pay for the content you watch" however with the lost economies of scale that incumbent providers had costs rise for the end users. Or they have sub-optimal experiences like you suggest above with less choice on a given day. Instead having to meticulously plan which streaming services to have on a given month being the narrow set of circumstances where costs are actually saves.



And I'll be no better off.

They could just as easily have gone to other TV channels. The more TV channels and streaming services there are, the more the content gets spread around.

You can be better off with the streamers, but obviously not if you want to view them all at the same time.

vincerooney 01-05-2022 13:57

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What’s the situation with premier sports and la liga? Can’t find any links online?

TimeLord2018 01-05-2022 14:07

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Behind a pay wall

Streaming platform Fite surprise frontrunner for LaLiga rights in UK
Quote:

SportBusiness understands Fite is currently in exclusive negotiations with LaLiga over a proposed three-season deal from 2022-23 to 2024-25
[https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/e...-rights-in-uk/

1andrew1 01-05-2022 14:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120685)
They could just as easily have gone to other TV channels. The more TV channels and streaming services there are, the more the content gets spread around.

You can be better off with the streamers, but obviously not if you want to view them all at the same time.

The thing is when Sky or VM negotiate for TV channels to come onto their platforms, they have strong purchasing power and so can get a better deal than you or me on our own.

OLD BOY 01-05-2022 15:04

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36120697)
The thing is when Sky or VM negotiate for TV channels to come onto their platforms, they have strong purchasing power and so can get a better deal than you or me on our own.

I agree, but the end result is that we end up paying for loads of channels we don’t watch - a common complaint on this forum and elsewhere.

In my experience, the streamers offer much more worthwhile content for much less money than the pay TV channels cost. If it’s documentaries you like, Discovery+ has quite a range. If you want reality shows, go to Hayu, and so on.

Sport is a different kettle of fish, and the fragmented nature of sports coverage is what is making it so expensive. However, it has to be said that fragmentation is also an issue for the conventional TV channels. Boxing tends to be pay-per-view, horse racing is separated out into its own channel, motor racing is also separated out (although Sky holds the rights to that), and so on. The streamers are not solely to blame for hiving off sports in this way. We have been advancing in that direction for a while.

In time, I would imagine we will have just two or three streamers covering the major sports, and by that time, it will be cheaper for everyone.

telegramsam 01-05-2022 15:16

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Just throwing my two penny worth in,I'd like to see just one company showing football and not bothered if it was Sky,BT,Amazon or the Mickey Mouse channel so long as I only have to subscribe to the one!

muppetman11 01-05-2022 16:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120700)
I agree, but the end result is that we end up paying for loads of channels we don’t watch - a common complaint on this forum and elsewhere.

In my experience, the streamers offer much more worthwhile content for much less money than the pay TV channels cost. If it’s documentaries you like, Discovery+ has quite a range. If you want reality shows, go to Hayu, and so on.

Sport is a different kettle of fish, and the fragmented nature of sports coverage is what is making it so expensive. However, it has to be said that fragmentation is also an issue for the conventional TV channels. Boxing tends to be pay-per-view, horse racing is separated out into its own channel, motor racing is also separated out (although Sky holds the rights to that), and so on. The streamers are not solely to blame for hiving off sports in this way. We have been advancing in that direction for a while.

In time, I would imagine we will have just two or three streamers covering the major sports, and by that time, it will be cheaper for everyone.

You only have to look at Netflix of late , the quality has deteriorated as they seem to be going for quantity over quality in fact their original films on the whole are atrocious.

jfman 01-05-2022 18:49

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120700)
I agree, but the end result is that we end up paying for loads of channels we don’t watch - a common complaint on this forum and elsewhere.

Yet with the lost economies of scale we now pay more to get less on multiple streaming services.

The fact many hold a simplistic view and don’t understand how markets work is irrelevant.

OLD BOY 01-05-2022 19:12

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Surely, you get economies of scale in terms of the amount of content on the streamers. Look at the huge amount of programming on Netflix alone, and compared to Sky’s entertainment channels, it’s as cheap as chips.

I am not persuaded by the number of channels you get for your buck - many channels are full of rubbish on the whole. I look for value by considering the amount and quality of content.

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You only have to look at Netflix of late , the quality has deteriorated as they seem to be going for quantity over quality in fact their original films on the whole are atrocious.

I don’t know what it is you are looking at to come to that conclusion. In recent weeks, we’ve seen a further series of Ozark, Bridgerton, Top Boy, The Last Kingdom and Better Call Saul. Completely new stuff includes Anatomy of a Scandal, Rescued By Ruby, Windfall, Against The Ice and Pieces of Her.

Can you point to anything like that amount of new stuff on Sky over just a few weeks?

jfman 01-05-2022 20:00

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Surely, you get economies of scale in terms of the amount of content on the streamers. Look at the huge amount of programming on Netflix alone, and compared to Sky’s entertainment channels, it’s as cheap as chips.

Not if you look at their levels of debt.

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I am not persuaded by the number of channels you get for your buck - many channels are full of rubbish on the whole. I look for value by considering the amount and quality of content.

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I don’t know what it is you are looking at to come to that conclusion. In recent weeks, we’ve seen a further series of Ozark, Bridgerton, Top Boy, The Last Kingdom and Better Call Saul. Completely new stuff includes Anatomy of a Scandal, Rescued By Ruby, Windfall, Against The Ice and Pieces of Her.

Can you point to anything like that amount of new stuff on Sky over just a few weeks?
Whether you are persuaded or otherwise is irrelevant. The low cost streaming future has been shown up as a sham.

1andrew1 01-05-2022 20:20

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36120712)
You only have to look at Netflix of late , the quality has deteriorated as they seem to be going for quantity over quality in fact their original films on the whole are atrocious.

Agreed.

Apparently one issue that happens in the industry is the writers, producers of popular TV series ask for more money as the series continues. Netflix refuses to follow this approach so is ending up not renewing series as a result.

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I agree, but the end result is that we end up paying for loads of channels we don’t watch - a common complaint on this forum and elsewhere.

It traditionally was a common complaint for pay TV but that was because people misunderstood how the negotiations between the platforms and the channels worked. VM purchased the channels on the basis that people couldn't watch every channel and so paid very little for them.

Media Boy UK 01-05-2022 21:48

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Watch out on May 12th.

We may get a update on a BT Sports / Discovery merger on that dete as BT PLC reveal results on that date.

Warner Bros. Discovery did not give a update when posting it results on April 26th.

muppetman11 01-05-2022 22:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120719)
Surely, you get economies of scale in terms of the amount of content on the streamers. Look at the huge amount of programming on Netflix alone, and compared to Sky’s entertainment channels, it’s as cheap as chips.

I am not persuaded by the number of channels you get for your buck - many channels are full of rubbish on the whole. I look for value by considering the amount and quality of content.

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I don’t know what it is you are looking at to come to that conclusion. In recent weeks, we’ve seen a further series of Ozark, Bridgerton, Top Boy, The Last Kingdom and Better Call Saul. Completely new stuff includes Anatomy of a Scandal, Rescued By Ruby, Windfall, Against The Ice and Pieces of Her.

Can you point to anything like that amount of new stuff on Sky over just a few weeks?

Who mentioned Sky ?

Clearly I’m not the only one with the quantity over quality view.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-the-new-cable

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 09:00

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36120741)
Who mentioned Sky ?

Clearly I’m not the only one with the quantity over quality view.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-the-new-cable

I did. My name is to the left of the text in my post.

You were moaning about the 'rubbish' on Netflix and I was drawing your attention to the fact that there was good stuff coming out all the time, and that it compared well with Sky - cheaper, too.

Of course there will always be programmes you don't like or rate in the ever expanding catalogue, and if you don't rate the ones I highlighted, then what on Earth do you like?

muppetman11 02-05-2022 09:07

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120754)
I did. My name is to the left of the text in my post.

You were moaning about the 'rubbish' on Netflix and I was drawing your attention to the fact that there was good stuff coming out all the time, and that it compared well with Sky - cheaper, too.

Of course there will always be programmes you don't like or rate in the ever expanding catalogue, and if you don't rate the ones I highlighted, then what on Earth do you like?

Cheaper ???? I pay for the Now TV Entertainment pass at £4.99 with boost at £2.00 so how is Netflix cheaper ????

The HD package on Netflix is £10.99 now

TimeLord2018 02-05-2022 09:10

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It's over priced compared to say Prime Video or Apple TV+ is and what Paramount+ will be likely be based on prices outside the US.

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 09:13

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120724)
Not if you look at their levels of debt.



Whether you are persuaded or otherwise is irrelevant. The low cost streaming future has been shown up as a sham.

The levels of debt accrued by Netflix has arisen through the sheer number of original programming they have made available on the service. Once they are satisfied that they have a good enough library, that level of spending will inevitably decrease, and they will also find innovative ways of increasing revenue.

The 'low-cost streaming future' is not a sham at all. The price will increase, sure, but you will no longer need to pay for any TV channels to companies like VM and Sky in the future because you will get all the content you want from the streamers, and you can access them through your smart TV. No need to get a TV box at all.

I can see that as a sport-lover, you are miffed by the number of streamers you need to pay for to watch a variety of sport, but as I said earlier, the fragmentation of sports programming was already occurring on the TV channels. I suspect that over time, sport will be available on fewer streamers due to the cost, reversing that trend.

bluecatt73 02-05-2022 10:16

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120757)
The levels of debt accrued by Netflix has arisen through the sheer number of original programming they have made available on the service. Once they are satisfied that they have a good enough library, that level of spending will inevitably decrease, and they will also find innovative ways of increasing revenue.

You're essentially saying that in the future Netflix will continue to raise prices (or introduce advertising) while adding very little in the way of new content?

muppetman11 02-05-2022 10:24

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Originally Posted by bluecatt73 (Post 36120762)
You're essentially saying that in the future Netflix will continue to raise prices (or introduce advertising) while adding very little in the way of new content?

He’s also confirming my point it’s quantity over quality :D

jfman 02-05-2022 13:00

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Originally Posted by bluecatt73 (Post 36120762)
You're essentially saying that in the future Netflix will continue to raise prices (or introduce advertising) while adding very little in the way of new content?

The glorious streaming future in one sentence.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120757)
The levels of debt accrued by Netflix has arisen through the sheer number of original programming they have made available on the service. Once they are satisfied that they have a good enough library, that level of spending will inevitably decrease, and they will also find innovative ways of increasing revenue.

The 'low-cost streaming future' is not a sham at all. The price will increase, sure, but you will no longer need to pay for any TV channels to companies like VM and Sky in the future because you will get all the content you want from the streamers, and you can access them through your smart TV. No need to get a TV box at all.

So all that changes is who you pay and no need for a box. Increased prices for less/lower quality content isn’t a victory for consumers in any way, shape or form.

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I can see that as a sport-lover, you are miffed by the number of streamers you need to pay for to watch a variety of sport, but as I said earlier, the fragmentation of sports programming was already occurring on the TV channels. I suspect that over time, sport will be available on fewer streamers due to the cost, reversing that trend.
More wishful thinking to be disproven over time. Whether I watch, or don’t watch, sports is broadly irrelevant. It’s simply the easiest way to disprove your vision of a low cost streaming future. Although general entertainment and niche programming are following suit.

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 17:18

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36120755)
Cheaper ???? I pay for the Now TV Entertainment pass at £4.99 with boost at £2.00 so how is Netflix cheaper ????

The HD package on Netflix is £10.99 now

Yes, but you are on a special offer. The normal price for the Now Entertainment pack is £11.99.

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36120756)
It's over priced compared to say Prime Video or Apple TV+ is and what Paramount+ will be likely be based on prices outside the US.

It’s more expensive because there’s a lot more on it!

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Originally Posted by bluecatt73 (Post 36120762)
You're essentially saying that in the future Netflix will continue to raise prices (or introduce advertising) while adding very little in the way of new content?

They can cut the amount of new original content to the level of Prime and that will save them quite a bit. Of course they will need to keep adding to their library!

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So all that changes is who you pay and no need for a box. Increased prices for less/lower quality content isn’t a victory for consumers in any way, shape or form.


That is not all that changes. For one thing, we will not have pay-tv channels in years to come, so no need to pay for them. You will not have to pay for a box or have an activation fee as you can view your streamers from your smart tv. That also means you can shop around for the best broadband deal without being tied to one company. You are not having all the streamers thrown at you if you only want to watch one, and you can change which streamer to watch pretty well when you want.

I don’t agree that the streamers provide less quality. Their dramas have made our terrestrials up their game.

muppetman11 02-05-2022 17:19

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Yes, but you are on a special offer. The normal price for the Now Entertainment pack is £11.99.[COLOR="Silver"]

Actually it’s £14.99 but that’s irrelevant as it’s so easy to get Now TV discounted to the figures I noted.

jfman 02-05-2022 17:19

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Actually it’s £14.99 but that’s irrelevant as it’s so easy to get Now TV discounted to the figures I noted.

And representative of a profitable business model - unlike Netflix.

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 17:23

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120773)

More wishful thinking to be disproven over time. Whether I watch, or don’t watch, sports is broadly irrelevant. It’s simply the easiest way to disprove your vision of a low cost streaming future. Although general entertainment and niche programming are following suit.

It is relevant, because sport is costing more, although as I’ve already said, fragmentation was happening anyway, before the streamers started buying the rights.

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Actually it’s £14.99 but that’s irrelevant as it’s so easy to get Now TV discounted to the figures I noted.

Another benefit of streaming, then … :D

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And representative of a profitable business model - unlike Netflix.

It does not matter to the consumer if a business is not currently making a profit. Virgin Media has been in debt most of its life since its inception, hasn’t it?

jfman 02-05-2022 17:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120803)
It is relevant, because sport is costing more, although as I’ve already said, fragmentation was happening anyway, before the streamers started buying the rights.

It wasn't to this extent and the notion that venture capital or Silicon Valley would throw money down the toilet in the way they have with streaming services is fanciful.

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It does not matter to the consumer if a business is not currently making a profit. Virgin Media has been in debt most of its life since its inception, hasn’t it?
It has infrastructure as an underlying asset.

It does indeed matter to consumers that markets are being distorted by venture capital or Silicon Valley underwriting unsustainable losses, forcing up rights costs for viable companies. This falls to consumers to fund.

Your failure to understand that undermines your entire argument.

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 17:41

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120810)

It has infrastructure as an underlying asset.

It does indeed matter to consumers that markets are being distorted by venture capital or Silicon Valley underwriting unsustainable losses, forcing up rights costs for viable companies. This falls to consumers to fund.

Your failure to understand that undermines your entire argument.

No, your point is not relevant. The streamers have made much more watchable content available at low cost. That is the point, and what is important to the consumer.

jfman 02-05-2022 17:43

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120814)
No, your point is not relevant. The streamers have made much more watchable content available at low cost. That is the point, and what is important to the consumer.

The consumers who now have to buy multiple services at higher cost than incumbent pay-tv packages?

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 17:49

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120810)
It wasn't to this extent and the notion that venture capital or Silicon Valley would throw money down the toilet in the way they have with streaming services is fanciful.

The fragmentation of sport was already happening on pay TV. Sky had already split its channels in that way in preparation for any loss of rights.

Your expectation that the status quo would have been maintained had the streamers not come along is, well, fanciful.

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The consumers who now have to buy multiple services at higher cost than incumbent pay-tv packages?

Except that they are not higher unless you opt to subscribe to a multitude of more expensive streamers.

jfman 02-05-2022 17:50

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120818)
The fragmentation of sport was already happening on pay TV. Sky had already split its channels in that way in preparation for any loss of rights.

Your expectation that the status quo would have been maintained had the streamers not come along is, well, fanciful.

Except that they are not higher unless you opt to subscribe to a multitude of more expensive streamers.

Which of course you have to do in order to maintain the depth and breadth of content that you had before fragmentation by loss making streamers.

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 17:53

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120822)
Which of course you have to do in order to maintain the depth and breadth of content that you had before fragmentation by loss making streamers.

Nope. Streamers + terrestrials give you all the variety you need.

Again, you have failed to explain ‘breadth of content’.

jfman 02-05-2022 18:20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120825)
Nope. Streamers + terrestrials give you all the variety you need.

Again, you have failed to explain ‘breadth of content’.

Clearly not at the lowest price point - or nobody would subscribe to Sky/Virgin at all (including yourself!).

OLD BOY 02-05-2022 18:58

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120831)
Clearly not at the lowest price point - or nobody would subscribe to Sky/Virgin at all (including yourself!).

I was questioning what you meant by ‘breadth’ of content.

If that relates to the non premium Sky channels, I hate to be the one to tell you that 95%+ of the content on most of those are not worthy of being included in your ‘breadth of content’ definition.

The main five terrestrial channels provide that breadth, not the general entertainment pay tv channels, which really aren’t worth paying for these days.

jfman 02-05-2022 19:22

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36120840)
I was questioning what you meant by ‘breadth’ of content.

If that relates to the non premium Sky channels, I hate to be the one to tell you that 95%+ of the content on most of those are not worthy of being included in your ‘breadth of content’ definition.

The main five terrestrial channels provide that breadth, not the general entertainment pay tv channels, which really aren’t worth paying for these days.

It’s hard to take you seriously when the exact same content delivered over streaming would be perfectly acceptable in your view.

muppetman11 02-05-2022 19:35

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120846)
It’s hard to take you seriously when the exact same content delivered over streaming would be perfectly acceptable in your view.

It’s laughable isn’t it , the streamers have equally as much junk available on them just try and find yourself a decent Netflix Original film and you may find 1 in 10.:D

jfman 02-05-2022 21:16

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36120849)
It’s laughable isn’t it , the streamers have equally as much junk available on them just try and find yourself a decent Netflix Original film and you may find 1 in 10.:D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...x#post36083316

Here’s OB pining for Britbox. A service of literal repeats. Previously offered by UK Gold and Granada Plus (and many other iterations along the way).

muppetman11 02-05-2022 21:58

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36120860)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...x#post36083316

Here’s OB pining for Britbox. A service of literal repeats. Previously offered by UK Gold and Granada Plus (and many other iterations along the way).

It’s somehow better though when it’s streamed.:D

Huxie 02-05-2022 21:59

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Can you folks please confine your back and forth to the chit chat thread?


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