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Hugh 14-04-2025 20:33

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...e-war-zelensky

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When asked if he had spoken President Zelensky about his offer to buy more Patriot missiles, Trump added: “Listen, when you start a war, you got to know that you can win the war, right?"

He continued: "You don’t start a war against somebody that’s 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles.”

Damien 14-04-2025 20:36

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
He also said that the missle that hit Ukraine killing dozens a couple of days ago was just 'a mistake'.

thenry 14-04-2025 20:59

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Why doesn't Trump pull out of Ukraine then? Squaring up to Russia isn't going to do any good.

papa smurf 14-04-2025 21:24

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36194714)
Why doesn't Trump pull out of Ukraine then? Squaring up to Russia isn't going to do any good.

why isn't the war over it's been more than 24 hrs

thenry 14-04-2025 21:39

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36194715)
why isn't the war over it's been more than 24 hrs

I would say God bless Zelenskyy.

Paul 15-04-2025 05:38

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

You don’t start a war against somebody that’s 20 times your size.
They didnt, Russia started it.

Everytime Trump opens his mouth he continues to prove once again what a moron he is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36194714)
Why doesn't Trump pull out of Ukraine then?

Huh ? Trump isnt in Ukraine :confused:

Anonymouse 15-04-2025 06:24

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Has anyone mentioned censorship in UK libraries caused by the US? They're complaining about LGBTQ+ content.

Listen 'ere, you orange git: THE US HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER THE UK. NONE WHATSOEVER. (That's in case Echelon is watching, in which case, SC**W YOU, ECHELON!) We will read what we bloody well want to read.

The US seems to think now that it rules the world. Uh-uh.

Reminded of ROTS:

"The Senate will decide your fate."
"I am the Senate!"
"Not yet! "

Hugh 15-04-2025 07:42

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
https://wapo.st/4jCzA3H

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Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele said Monday that he does not plan to return a Maryland man whom the Trump administration mistakenly deported to his country, as the U.S. judicial system barrels toward a potential constitutional crisis over the standoff.

“How can I return him to the United States?” Bukele said in an Oval Office meeting with President Donald Trump, responding to a reporter’s question. “I smuggle him into the United States? Of course I’m not going to do it. The question is preposterous. How can I smuggle a terrorist into the United States?”

Kilmar Abrego García, a Salvadoran immigrant who is married to a U.S. citizen, was deported last month to El Salvador’s brutal mega-prison, CECOT. His case has become a focal point of the Trump administration’s attempt to deport more than 1 million immigrants from the United States — and the court battles over the legality of that campaign. The Supreme Court on Thursday backed a lower-court order that requires the White House to “facilitate” the release of Abrego García, but the justices stopped short of saying a lower-court judge could order the administration to “effectuate” his return.

Trump officials suggested Monday that the administration was not bound to follow court orders to return Abrego García from El Salvador.

“No court in the United States has a right to conduct the foreign policy of the United States,” Secretary of State Marco Rubio said during the Oval Office meeting. But the administration in court proceedings also has conceded that Abrego García’s removal was the result of an “administrative error.”…

… Trump also told reporters Monday that he was open to deporting U.S. citizens if they had committed violent, criminal acts.

“If it’s a homegrown criminal, I have no problem,” Trump said in the Oval Office. “We’re studying the laws right now. Pam [Bondi, the attorney general] is studying. If we can do that, that’s good.”…

… The Trump administration had acknowledged in court proceedings that Abrego García was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador — and that the removal to El Salvador was therefore illegal. But government attorneys said Sunday night that the administration is not required to engage El Salvador’s government in efforts to facilitate Abrego García’s return, arguing that he “is no longer eligible” for the protection from deportation that should have prevented him from being sent to El Salvador in the first place.

thenry 15-04-2025 09:55

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194717)
Huh ? Trump isnt in Ukraine :confused:

The US are offering assistance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o

1andrew1 15-04-2025 10:06

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Behind the rhetoric, US debt is growing and Trump's spending more than Biden.
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A bigger hole: Trump has already spent $155bn more than Biden. Musk now claims DOGE only saved $150bn

The Trump administration has already spent $155 billion more than former President Joe Biden did over the same period of time after their inaugurations, according to Treasury Department data. And Elon Musk is now claiming that his Department of Government Efficiency has only managed to save $150 billion.

That means that despite tens of thousands of government workers being fired, agencies shuttered, contracts cut and federal services dramatically reduced, the current administration has already racked up an additional $5 billion of debt than the Biden administration in the same space of time.

And it’s not clear that DOGE has saved anywhere near $150 billion. Every time Musk posts “receipts” to show off DOGE’s savings, they’re riddled with errors.

He initially vowed to save $2 trillion by slashing government agencies and social benefits, than halved that to $1 trillion. Now he claims he has only cut a fraction of that.

The increased spending by the Trump administration was discovered in an analysis by the Wall Street Journal of daily financial statements issued by the Treasury Department.

Costs are continuing to climb even as Trump and the Republicans aim to negotiate a $5 trillion tax cut that’s expected to add an additional $5.7 trillion to the government’s debt over the next decade. The current debt is already $37.3 trillion.

Many of the government’s costs are fixed social benefits that continue to climb. Social Security is now paying a cost-of-living boost and an increase in the number of retiring baby boomers. Another huge cost is servicing the federal debt.

The highest payments in 2024 were Social Security at $1.5 trillion, interest on the debt at $881 billion, the Department of Defense at $807 billion and Medicare at $865 billion.

Social Security payments are $32.7 billion higher since Trump took office. The U.S. has also paid out $25.5 billion more in interest on the debt since Trump returned to the White House than in the same period last year, the Journal reports.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...fbac6c95&ei=22

Paul 15-04-2025 15:52

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymouse (Post 36194718)
Has anyone mentioned censorship in UK libraries caused by the US? They're complaining about LGBTQ+ content.

Nope, no one has mentioned anything, then again, complaining does not equal censorship.

1andrew1 15-04-2025 16:16

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194717)
Huh ? Trump isnt in Ukraine :confused:

He never will whilst Russia's still at war with it. He simply hasn't got the bottle to visit a country being bombed and the tolerance to hear views on the war that differ from those of Putin.

Hugh 15-04-2025 16:25

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36194733)
He never will whilst Russia's still at war with it. He simply hasn't got the bottle and the tolerance to hear views on the war that differ from those of Putin.

And on that point…

https://meduza.io/en/news/2025/04/15...rike-bloomberg

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The Trump administration has told Washington's G7 allies that it won’t support a statement condemning Russia’s recent missile strike on the Ukrainian city of Sumy, saying that it's “working to preserve the space to negotiate peace,” Bloomberg reports.

Canada, which currently holds the G7 presidency, told other members that without U.S. backing, issuing the statement would not be possible, according to Bloomberg’s sources.

A draft of the statement reportedly described the attack on Sumy as proof that Russia was determined to continue the war.

Russia’s attack on Sumy, which it carried out on Palm Sunday, killed at least 35 civilians and injured at least 119, according to Ukrainian authorities.

1andrew1 15-04-2025 17:00

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36194734)

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The Trump administration has told Washington's G7 allies that it won’t support a statement condemning Russia’s recent missile strike on the Ukrainian city of Sumy...
Exactly, Putin's useless idiot is entirely predictable here as he is unpredictable on tariffs.

Anonymouse 16-04-2025 04:03

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36194732)
Nope, no one has mentioned anything, then again, complaining does not equal censorship.

It does when they're doing it in the US. They're removing any such content from their libraries and requesting (demanding?) that we do it, too. Well, they know what they can do with that idea. People have fought and died for the right to be whatever they choose to be, and will be damned if they'll give it up. Myself, I'm cis-male and hetero, but I don't give a toss that other people aren't.

On a brighter note, Harvard has refused the government's demands - and rightly so IMO. They hold that no government has any right to dictate what will and won't be taught. I agree.


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