Cable Forum - Brexit

For those of you not familiar with Mauritania, it’s GDP is $4,714million (0.2% of the UK’s), 50% of its exports consist of Iron Ore, and between 1% and 17% of the population still live in slavery.

Maybe that’s the plan. Reduce wages in the UK in real terms until 17% of us are slaves.

Pierre

13-04-2019 22:20

Re: Brexit

This is from a few weeks ago, but Henning articulates perfectly why a second vote would not necessarily go the way advocates for it think.

https://www.facebook.com/locbrexit/v...945300?sfns=mo

jfman

13-04-2019 23:01

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35991201)

This is from a few weeks ago, but Henning articulates perfectly why a second vote would not necessarily go the way advocates for it think.

https://www.facebook.com/locbrexit/v...945300?sfns=mo

I counted 116 people in the audience. 6 had changed their mind, each would represent 0.86%. Obviously we don’t know in which direction, but that’s the fine margin in which the referendum was won and lost.

1andrew1

13-04-2019 23:22

Re: Brexit

Looks like the prediction that a vote for Brexit could let in Corbyn could well come true!

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Jeremy Corbyn is on course to sweep into No 10 after Theresa May failed to deliver on her promise to take the UK out of the EU by March 29, a major polling analysis reveals.
The Conservatives would lose 59 seats in the event of a general election, making Labour the largest party in the Commons, according to an exclusive poll of polls for The Sunday Telegraph.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-hand-corbyn/

jfman

14-04-2019 08:13

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35991203)

Looks like the prediction that a vote for Brexit could let in Corbyn could well come true!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...s-hand-corbyn/

The giveaway, as always, is antisemitism in the news. A story with more comebacks than Madonna.

Carth

14-04-2019 09:21

Re: Brexit

We're still in the EU . . still ruled by the EU . . yet blocked by the EU when it suits :rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47921375

If we had left on March 29th would that 'pollution' bill still have to be paid?

When (if) we eventually leave, will we still be bound by the EU pollution rules, or free to carry on business as usual without this 'extra tax' on steelmaking (and other businesses) ?

Chris

14-04-2019 09:47

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35991215)

The pollution credits are on temporary hold pending acceptance of the withdrawal agreement. It’s temporary, which is why the company feels able to ask HMG for such a massive loan - they will be able to pay it back in full reasonably quickly.

As part of Brexit, EU law is being written into UK law, so in the short to medium term the pollution credit system will continue. However, if we find the system doesn’t work for us (and if we don’t subsequently sign a Europe-wide pollution treaty at some later date) then we will be free to change or abandon the pollution credit scheme altogether.

Again, just one of the many benefits of Brexit. Once we are no longer treaty bound to accept the entire body of EU law, we have sovereign freedom to decide what is in our national interest and what isn’t.

Carth

14-04-2019 10:05

Re: Brexit

Thanks Chris :tu:

1andrew1

14-04-2019 10:34

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35991173)

On the contrary, Nige was the only reason many people voted UKIP last time. Had it not been for the toxicity of UKIP with its fanatical base, many more would have voted for them.

Nige has recognised this and formed his very own party. You have grossly underestimated Nigel Farage's popularity, but then again you are a remainer and presumably mix socially with remainers.

I think Nigel is a skilled orator whom the BBC, in particular, seem to love to give airtime to. Calling his new party the Brexit Party is a clever move. If you want to vote Brexit, put that on your form. If you want to vote Remain, do you vote Labour, Green, Change UK (if a party by then) or Liberal Democrat? And that's without mentioning the SNP or Plaid Cymru!
I suspect Damien's social circles are like most people's and include people who voted leave, remain and abstained

GrimUpNorth

14-04-2019 11:03

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by 007stuart (Post 35991156)

Chris after your kind words on my post can you help GrimUpNorth with his sentence?

Wasn't he a big meat eater? ( The temptation to say meet, and I know it's steak )
!
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35991158)

Stake = tent peg
State = territory, defined politically

Where are the punctuation police?

Now I'll get back on topic!

ianch99

14-04-2019 11:09

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35991168)

A shallow reply from you.

John Redwood has consistently campaigned against the EU's hegemony. He has consistently supported the concept of a Common Market. The electorate in his constituency have returned him to Parliament since 1987 fully knowing his position on the EU.

As you know, Brexit has turned everything on its head and your contribution is specious.

Shallow, specious? You need to get a perspective here. If they put a blue rosette on a hat stand, it would win Wokingham.

The individual you admire ignores the majority of his constituency's wishes, ignores the instructions of his party and ignores the real and present danger to the country of leaving without a deal.

I am puzzled why you admire him so?

Sephiroth

14-04-2019 12:59

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35991226)

Haven’t you read what I’ve said? JR has been voted in at Wokingham by people in the full knowledge of his EU views. They like him.

As to ignoring party stuff in Parliament, the guvmin’s mess is such that no Brexit respecting Tory MP would be worth a candle if they followed May’s whip.

As to no deal, you speak from a Remainer’s perspective; that should not be a basis for criticism of an excellent constituency MP.

Your puzzlement is a ridiculous and gratuitous sentiment.

jfman

14-04-2019 13:01

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35991228)

The same argument could be made for every remainer elected in 2017.

ianch99

14-04-2019 13:15

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35991228)

Yup, I read it and you are (still) wrong. Redwood was voted in because he is a Tory. That's it. The only qualification needed was a blue rosette.

He clearly fails Churchill's three tests:

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The first duty of a member of Parliament is to do what he thinks in his faithful and disinterested judgement is right and necessary for the honour and safety of Great Britain. His second duty is to his constituents, of whom he is the representative but not the delegate. Burke's famous declaration on this subject is well known. It is only in the third place that his duty to party organization or programme takes rank. All these three loyalties should be observed, but there in no doubt of the order in which they stand under any healthy manifestation of democracy.

— Winston Churchill, Duties of a Member of Parliament (c.1954-1955)

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35991183)

I was there to day outside Parliament Square.

The were stopping several groups merging.

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There is talk that Anna Sourbitch, and two other MPs are going to try and make a law banning negative comments against MPs.

if you can't handle the heat, I'm sure a shelf stacking job awaits

You have spelt her name wrong. Her name is Anna Soubry. In case you are not sure who I mean, she looks like this:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/04/4.jpg

1andrew1

14-04-2019 13:50

Re: Brexit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35991228)

Haven’t you read what I’ve said? JR has been voted in at Wokingham by people in the full knowledge of his EU views. They like him.

I've voted for MPs without worrying about their views on Europe as until now, it's been a non-issue at the elections I've voted in. It will clearly be an issue with MPs like Kate Hoey and John Redwood whose views on this issue are at odds with their constituents. Ditto Remain MPs in leave-voting areas, But an election might be a little way off.

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