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As seen on Twitter, this seems to paraphrase the new migration policy, right?
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Linking migration to salary is a stupid idea. It is biased towards London where salaries would be higher so a programmer in London could be deemed essentially whereas a programmer in Leeds would not. It would mean nurses aren't deemed vital for migration.
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Given the strength of feeling displayed that immigrants were keeping wages low and stealing working class jobs, this policy, together with new training programmes for the indigenous population, is exactly the right thing to do. Our people will be properly trained and the lack of immigrant labour should increase wages. As long as the good old British have sufficient motivation to get off their backsides and work for their money, and I'm sure they will :erm:the policy should work. ---------- Post added at 16:47 ---------- Previous post was at 16:45 ---------- Quote:
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Of course, you have to ask why immigration levels have been so high where we do control immigration? Also, why have we not made any effort to control immigration of EU migrants using the rules available to us? Is it lack of will, lack of money or do successive governments approve of the levels secretly? If it's will, we have to question the competence of successive governments. If it's lack of money, the post Brexit arrangements will cost more so that doesn't solve anything. If our governments over the years internally want immigration, we strongly have to ask what benefit this is to the UK and what might we lose without free movement. |
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Watch this. This chap knows a lot about trade in Europe and beyond. His analysis is on the future of Agrifoods is chilling:
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"Peace is the founding principle of the EU" - Jason Hunter in his Project Fear speech.
"In truth, Brussels is a democracy-free zone" - Janis Varoufakis https://www.theguardian.com/politics...at-theresa-may "EU doesn't do democracy" - Seph The core of the economic argument is that the UK is so deeply integrated with the EU at the practical level that leaving on WTO terms will severely knock us back. The core of the democratic argument is that the UK should be sovereign and free from the EU's shackles (to the extent they exist - which is where there is debate). The piggy in the middle is the Irish border and the EU are playing that n order to undemocratically shackle us to the Customs Union and split the UK into two. In these circumstances, sovereignty trumps economics and we should take the hit if it comes and build from there. |
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I see the EASA (European Air Safety Agency) has started preparations for a no deal Brexit by inviting UK operators to start the application process for approval as a third country - https://www.easa.europa.eu/brexit
There's an interesting study from the Royal Aeronautical Society on the options for aviation post Brexit - https://www.aerosociety.com/media/67...ter_brexit.pdf |
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Oh, and let's drop the child-like "Project Fear" rubbish shall we? If he is wrong, say why he is wrong and articulate the reasons that No Deal is not as damaging as he fears. The constant use of this banal retort is just lazy .. |
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My point was that sovereignty trumps economics when you consider the democracy aspect. With regard to Project Fear, stop insulting me with accusations of banality. I'm very precise and deliberate. The entire tenet of the guvmin's circular to each home can very reasonably described as Project Fear - it was intended to instil fear in its readers so that a Remain vote would result. |
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"Sovereignty trumps economics" - easy to say if you’re comfortably off. Not so easy if you are one of those negatively affected.
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Thoughtful piece today about Europe. Quote:
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