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1andrew1 28-09-2021 09:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36094971)
Of course this is still all speculation,isn't it? Do we know that BT want to pull out altogether or are simply looking for a partner? And with Sky maintaining linear sports channels, any streamer would be mad to go down the streaming only option in my opinion. Does anyone know how successful Amazon prime have been streaming premier league games?
The FT and others have reported a DAZN acquisition of BT Sport is likely so a step-up from speculation.

telegramsam 28-09-2021 10:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094980)
The FT and others have reported a DAZN acquisition of BT Sport is likely so a step-up from speculation.
What I meant was it's not yet a done deal is it?

1andrew1 28-09-2021 10:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36094990)
What I meant was it's not yet a done deal is it?
No it's not.

Rillington 28-09-2021 17:37
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and of course the big question for VM customers would be if DAZN would continue to be part of the XL package (or whatever it is called these days )

Itshim 28-09-2021 18:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36095052)
and of course the big question for VM customers would be if DAZN would continue to be part of the XL package (or whatever it is called these days )
History is probably a good guide :rolleyes:

telegramsam 28-09-2021 19:51
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Watching build up to Porto v Liverpool and I think some BT staff have already gone home!

cupcakes aka dd 04-10-2021 10:05
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Noticed Sky Sports on VM PQ has degraded lately. Other posts on various forums confirm this so I don’t believe the fault is at my end. Can anyone enlighten me? Football is somewhere between SD and 720 HD. When I start watching Apple TV PQ I realise how bad Sky Sports really is.

OLD BOY 04-10-2021 11:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36094943)
Yet no streamer has ever made a substantive bid for rights and DAZN are spending billions to buy a linear channel.
Yes, with streaming rights on it. Once they own the channel, they can transfer everyone to their streamer when the time is right.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36094943)

You’re stuck behind your own blinkers thinking DAZN (or anyone else for that matter) are somehow streaming ideologues and they won’t provide content by whatever mechanism the customers want.

Equally the idea that they are spending billions to buy BT Sport to shut it down once all their contractual obligations are fulfilled it fanciful.
As I keep reminding you, jfman, super-fast broadband has yet to roll out across the country, so by making streaming the only option, DAZN would be losing customers who wanted to see these matches.

Only when the rollout has finished will a changeover to streaming only occur, in my opinion. And viewers would follow the football.

Media Boy UK 04-10-2021 12:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36094874)
If/when they take over BT Sport they will have 1.6 million direct to home subscribers on that platform/Sky, plus wholesale and commercial revenues.

You’re right that isn’t going to change overnight. There is no basis upon which to describe this as “unlikely to stay like that for many years”. Th vast, vast majority of subscribers and viewers will be through the linear service and a small minority from the existing DAZN streaming service. Indeed, DAZN as exists now will may as well cease operating in the UK - the £8 a month service will no longer be viable. BT Sports £25 a month app will be the principal vehicle for streaming content.
Hope we get confirm news soon on the DAZN/BT Sport takeover just to see if DAZN broadcast UEFA Women Champions League on the existing BT Sport linear service.

jfman 04-10-2021 13:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36095745)
Yes, with streaming rights on it. Once they own the channel, they can transfer everyone to their streamer when the time is right.
As can Sky, or could BT if they stayed in the market. To that end nothing has changed other than DAZN accepting the inevitable that their direct to consumer business model relies upon existing TV platforms and will do for years to come.

Quote:
As I keep reminding you, jfman, super-fast broadband has yet to roll out across the country, so by making streaming the only option, DAZN would be losing customers who wanted to see these matches.
You don’t have to tell me there’s no business model for a streaming only service - I’ve been saying it for years.

OLD BOY 04-10-2021 14:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36095762)


You don’t have to tell me there’s no business model for a streaming only service - I’ve been saying it for years.
Yet. But nobody said right now, although Amazon is streaming only of course, but with the smallest package.

1andrew1 04-10-2021 14:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36095771)
Yet. But nobody said right now, although Amazon is streaming only of course, but with the smallest package.
Although for pubs and bars I think they offer a linear channel through BT Sport.

jfman 04-10-2021 14:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36095771)
Yet. But nobody said right now, although Amazon is streaming only of course, but with the smallest package.
Yes the bargain basement rights that the league couldn’t even get their reserve price for. This isn’t reflective of a competitive auction for them.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36095778)
Although for pubs and bars I think they offer a linear channel through BT Sport.
As do DAZN in Germany and Italy (not via BT, of course).

Indeed if the complaints in Italy are anything to go by I’m not sure any billion pound organisation is going to bet their reputation on streaming only while charging €30 a month. There’s a backup DTT option in some regions but still many complaints and an emergency summit between the league and DAZN on what they are going to do about it.

The relative buttons it costs to maintain a linear presence looks good value.

OLD BOY 05-10-2021 08:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36095781)
Yes the bargain basement rights that the league couldn’t even get their reserve price for. This isn’t reflective of a competitive auction for them.

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As do DAZN in Germany and Italy (not via BT, of course).

Indeed if the complaints in Italy are anything to go by I’m not sure any billion pound organisation is going to bet their reputation on streaming only while charging €30 a month. There’s a backup DTT option in some regions but still many complaints and an emergency summit between the league and DAZN on what they are going to do about it.

The relative buttons it costs to maintain a linear presence looks good value.
Again, it’s the broadband that is letting them down in Italy.

My advice to any sports provider is to ensure their programming is also available on conventional channels also until such time as the country they are broadcasting to has properly completed their broadband rollout.

jfman 05-10-2021 08:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36095891)
Again, it’s the broadband that is letting them down in Italy.

My advice to any sports provider is to ensure their programming is also available on conventional channels also until such time as the country they are broadcasting to has properly completed their broadband rollout.
The key distribution method not being up to standard is a massive hole in any streaming only future and the immediate business models of anyone going down that route, I’m sure you’d agree.

The reality slow plans for extending FTTP (or equivalent) broadband coverage into very rural areas will always mean there is a market who cannot be catered for by streaming alone. Plus the hundreds of thousands of homes with no broadband at all.

This puts any transition much further away than you present.

1andrew1 05-10-2021 09:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36095892)
This puts any transition much further away than you present.
I suspect that the X in 20X5 for full UK high speed broadband roll-out is liable to be closer to 3 than to 2.

jfman 05-10-2021 09:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36095895)
I suspect that the X in 20X5 for full UK high speed broadband roll-out is liable to be closer to 3 than to 2.
Probably closer to 5 than 2 for the furthest reaches of the country.

OLD BOY 05-10-2021 10:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36095892)
The key distribution method not being up to standard is a massive hole in any streaming only future and the immediate business models of anyone going down that route, I’m sure you’d agree.

The reality slow plans for extending FTTP (or equivalent) broadband coverage into very rural areas will always mean there is a market who cannot be catered for by streaming alone. Plus the hundreds of thousands of homes with no broadband at all.

This puts any transition much further away than you present.
What I would agree with is that the key distribution method not being up to standard is a massive hole in the present.

What cannot be said without evidence to justify it is that this problem will not be rectified in the future.

1andrew1 05-10-2021 10:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36095908)
What I would agree with is that the key distribution method not being up to standard is a massive hole in the present.

What cannot be said without evidence to justify it is that this problem will not be rectified in the future.
Boot's on t'other foot - one needs to evidence that an existing situation will alter.

OLD BOY 05-10-2021 10:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36095909)
Boot's on t'other foot - one needs to evidence that an existing situation will alter.
Not really. The expectation is that superfast broadband will rollout to the rest of the country. The government's timetable might be a bit out, but the situation will be quite different in a decade.

jfman 05-10-2021 11:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36095914)
Not really. The expectation is that superfast broadband will rollout to the rest of the country. The government's timetable might be a bit out, but the situation will be quite different in a decade.
Will it? The Government have already slipped a 2025 commitment to 2033. And that’s still 12 years away. Then there’s a world of difference between availability of services and uptake of FTTP services.

In extremely rural areas residents are being quoted six figure sums just to get a 10 megabit connection, never mind full fibre.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...so-quotes.html

buckeye 05-10-2021 13:47
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Does the country really need super or ultra fast broadband to be rolled out before rural areas can experience decent internet?
Everything I read about Starlink from beta testers seem to indicate most if not all area's can expect 100-150 meg download speeds fairly consistently.
Ok that's not VM or FTTP speeds but its comparable to the best speeds most ISP's offer at the moment.
The service at the moment is expensive and from what I've seen is still a bit buggy but it will get cheaper and more reliable once its out of beta and more Satellites are in the sky.

This is just one way a more universal internet coverage will be delivered, One Web will offer something similar and 5G will also cover many more areas soonish.

All of that being said I hope DAZN don't take over BT Sport, BT has imho the best streaming service going, I'm talking technically not content.
It just works, it never buffers even when streaming UHD HDR with Dolby Atmos games, for live sporting events BT Sports streaming infrastructure is second to none.
If DAZN are successful I hope the use BT's infrastructure across their network but I would guess they will cheap out on this.

jfman 05-10-2021 14:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36095943)
Does the country really need super or ultra fast broadband to be rolled out before rural areas can experience decent internet?
Everything I read about Starlink from beta testers seem to indicate most if not all area's can expect 100-150 meg download speeds fairly consistently.
Ok that's not VM or FTTP speeds but its comparable to the best speeds most ISP's offer at the moment.
The service at the moment is expensive and from what I've seen is still a bit buggy but it will get cheaper and more reliable once its out of beta and more Satellites are in the sky.

This is just one way a more universal internet coverage will be delivered, One Web will offer something similar and 5G will also cover many more areas soonish.

All of that being said I hope DAZN don't take over BT Sport, BT has imho the best streaming service going, I'm talking technically not content.
It just works, it never buffers even when streaming UHD HDR with Dolby Atmos games, for live sporting events BT Sports streaming infrastructure is second to none.
If DAZN are successful I hope the use BT's infrastructure across their network but I would guess they will cheap out on this.
The whole country needs access before it ceases to be viable for a mixed streaming, satellite, cable presence to coexist. As you point out BT successfully work across streaming, in addition to satellite/cable and their own TV platform.

Chris 05-10-2021 14:06
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There are multiple existing threads for this discussion … can we please keep this one on topic.

OLD BOY 06-10-2021 08:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36095921)
Will it? The Government have already slipped a 2025 commitment to 2033. And that’s still 12 years away. Then there’s a world of difference between availability of services and uptake of FTTP services.

In extremely rural areas residents are being quoted six figure sums just to get a 10 megabit connection, never mind full fibre.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...so-quotes.html
BT plan to complete their rollout by 2026 and Virgin by 2028. As far as remotest communities are concerned, they could all be covered by satellite broadband, but I’m unsure whether there are any plans for that.

The remotest communities didn’t even get hooked up to the electricity until relatively recently, and some may still not have an electricity supply. I don’t see why the absence of broadband in these areas would prevent streaming only services to become widespread, as buckeye said, and so I remain of the view that Premiere League sports will be streamed only before many people think.

The only question is which streaming services will they be? Clearly, Amazon and DAZN are already committed. Disney and Discovery are also hot contenders.

jfman 06-10-2021 09:00
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Edit: just saw the mod instruction from Chris.

OB I’ve responded in the appropriate thread.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=387

OLD BOY 06-10-2021 11:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36096037)
Edit: just saw the mod instruction from Chris.

OB I’ve responded in the appropriate thread.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=387
Whoops; yes, thank you.

Chris 06-10-2021 12:00
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/puts down ban hammer :devsmoke:

Gavin-D 07-10-2021 11:45
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Sky Glass on its way TVs start from £13 a month and a Sky sub starts from £39 a month with a 31 day contract

https://www.sky.com/glass

cheekyangus 07-10-2021 13:11
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Some have interpreted the £5 a month for 4K HDR and Dolby Atmos as the end of paying extra for HD with Sky. Though it could just be with regards to Sky Glass.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/sky-glass-...fi-tv-launches
https://mobile.twitter.com/a516digit...69563179913220

OLD BOY 07-10-2021 13:19
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I like the idea, but what I don’t like is being locked into one TV content provider. Sky Puck seems like a rip off!

jfman 07-10-2021 13:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36096335)
I like the idea, but what I don’t like is being locked into one TV content provider. Sky Puck seems like a rip off!
Disappointed in your lack of enthusiasm OB this is what you’ve been crying out for. All the apps in one place, on one box (that happens to be the TV).

1andrew1 07-10-2021 13:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36096335)
I like the idea, but what I don’t like is being locked into one TV content provider. Sky Puck seems like a rip off!
It also has an aerial socket and can work with any ISP. But we don't know if it can work as a normal smart TV with Freeview if there's no Sky subscription in place.

Maybe the Puck pricing will come down in the future, this could be early adopter pricing.

OLD BOY 07-10-2021 14:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36096341)
Disappointed in your lack of enthusiasm OB this is what you’ve been crying out for. All the apps in one place, on one box (that happens to be the TV).
That side of it is fine. What I don’t like is paying all that money only to be locked into one provider.

I’ll wait for the competition to offer a better deal, thanks very much.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36096345)
It also has an aerial socket and can work with any ISP. But we don't know if it can work as a normal smart TV with Freeview if there's no Sky subscription in place.

Maybe the Puck pricing will come down in the future, this could be early adopter pricing.
Yes it can, if I understand the blurb correctly.

telegramsam 07-10-2021 14:32
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Sounds interesting. Anyone pre registered?

jfman 07-10-2021 14:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36096352)
That side of it is fine. What I don’t like is paying all that money only to be locked into one provider.

I’ll wait for the competition to offer a better deal, thanks very much.

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Yes it can, if I understand the blurb correctly.
You aren’t locked into one provider though - it appears the Sky subscription is on a 31 day contract but there’s no indication you need it to access the other apps or services.

Long live Sky the super content aggregator. Streaming (and linear channels of course!) in a living room near you very soon.

cheekyangus 07-10-2021 16:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36096345)
It also has an aerial socket and can work with any ISP. But we don't know if it can work as a normal smart TV with Freeview if there's no Sky subscription in place.

Maybe the Puck pricing will come down in the future, this could be early adopter pricing.
I read that it has a backup mode that uses a DVB-T2 tuner, the RXTVlog article has specs that says as much, but the person (not RXTVlog) got the impression it was being disabled for the UK market.

I'll see if I can find that source again, maybe I misunderstood.

Various articles have said you can only use it with one Pay TV supplier, but I don't see how they can stop you if it has HDMI sockets, they can't exactly monitor the HDMIs and blank the screen only when a rival's device is being used, they could only disable them completely, but why have them if they did that?

1andrew1 07-10-2021 16:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36096373)
I read that it has a backup mode that uses a DVB-T2 tuner, the RXTVlog article has specs that says as much, but the person (not RXTVlog) got the impression it was being disabled for the UK market.

I'll see if I can find that source again, maybe I misunderstood.

Various articles have said you can only use it with one Pay TV supplier, but I don't see how they can stop you if it has HDMI sockets, they can't exactly monitor the HDMIs and blank the screen only when a rival's device is being used, they could only disable them completely, but why have them if they did that?
They've got them there primarily for gamers, I assume. I doubt they would go to the bother of disabling the HDMI inputs though.

Chad 08-10-2021 22:10
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Eurosport being withdrawn from BT TV as of January 2022 according to these posts:

https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Sport...t/td-p/2186349

Wonder if we'll see Eurosport drop off SKY and Virgin Media around the same time?

Interestingly 17th January 2022, the date the channels allegedly will be removed from BT, is the same date Eurosport starts their coverage of the African Cup of Nations. "Watch live and exclusive only on Discovery +" springs to mind.

OLD BOY 09-10-2021 11:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36096362)
You aren’t locked into one provider though - it appears the Sky subscription is on a 31 day contract but there’s no indication you need it to access the other apps or services.

Long live Sky the super content aggregator. Streaming (and linear channels of course!) in a living room near you very soon.
What I mean by ‘locked in’ is that without a Sky subscription, you only get the Freeview channels. The TV allows you only to pick up the Sky fare.

At least, that’s what we’ve been led to believe. Interesting that it has HDMI ports, though, so I guess there must be other options available.

jfman 09-10-2021 11:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36096712)
What I mean by ‘locked in’ is that without a Sky subscription, you only get the Freeview channels. The TV allows you only to pick up the Sky fare.

At least, that’s what we’ve been led to believe. Interesting that it has HDMI ports, though, so I guess there must be other options available.
It’s got all the major streaming apps.

Carth 09-10-2021 11:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36096719)
It’s got all the major streaming apps.
But is that extra cost on top . . . same as an ordinary TV?

telegramsam 09-10-2021 12:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36096712)
What I mean by ‘locked in’ is that without a Sky subscription, you only get the Freeview channels. The TV allows you only to pick up the Sky fare.

At least, that’s what we’ve been led to believe. Interesting that it has HDMI ports, though, so I guess there must be other options available.
Yeah but then if it's got HDMI ports then you would be able to watch cable tv or BT tv too,wouldn't you?

Raider999 09-10-2021 12:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36096727)
Yeah but then if it's got HDMI ports then you would be able to watch cable tv or BT tv too,wouldn't you?

Sky have a history of including ports you cannot use on their boxes (USB ports come to mind), so unusable had I ports would not be a surprise.

There again it could be that however makes the Sky Glass is using the spec of a TV they currently make and it's easier not to remove them?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36096721)
But is that extra cost on top . . . same as an ordinary TV?
I seriously doubt these apps will be free, but you can always dream

jfman 09-10-2021 13:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36096721)
But is that extra cost on top . . . same as an ordinary TV?
Well yes, none of this is particularly revolutionary but OB seems to think it’s going to change how everyone consumes TV.

telegramsam 09-10-2021 13:39
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If the HDMI ports didn't work then who'd want a TV they can't plug their dvd or blu ray player into?

Carth 09-10-2021 14:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36096742)
If the HDMI ports didn't work then who'd want a TV they can't plug their dvd or blu ray player into?
Same people that buy an Iphone 13 with no headphone socket? :D

telegramsam 09-10-2021 15:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36096748)
Same people that buy an Iphone 13 with no headphone socket? :D
But doesn't that work via Bluetooth? Don't think you can connect a dvd player or blu ray player to TV via Bluetooth? So not the same comparison,is it?

OLD BOY 09-10-2021 19:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36096719)
It’s got all the major streaming apps.
I don’t think you do actually, unless you pay the Sky Glass subscription.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36096741)
Well yes, none of this is particularly revolutionary but OB seems to think it’s going to change how everyone consumes TV.
Ultimately, it will all be IPTV.

Incidentally, neither the Sky channels nor the streamers are free. Premium content has to be paid for, that’s pretty obvious.

1andrew1 04-11-2021 10:57
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Quote:
I know you’ll want to know whether there is an update regarding the future of BT Sport – the short answer is ‘not yet’; discussions are ongoing and we’ll provide an update at the appropriate time.
Page 3. https://www.bt.com/bt-plc/assets/doc...media-call.pdf

Media Boy UK 24-11-2021 15:07
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RXTV: Channel 4 strikes free to air rugby Super League deal.

Channel 4 to broadcast 10 UK Super League games starting with Leeds Rhinos VS Warrington Wolves on February 12th 2022. Two of the ten will be "end of season play off" games

The rest of them are TBC.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2021/c4-strikes...er-league-deal

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It an two year deal: https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...22_470997.html

1701-e 24-11-2021 15:33
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Another Sky sports promotion then along with F1

1andrew1 06-12-2021 10:21
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So, Discovery is now speaking to BT about a joint venture in sport as the DAZN-BT negotiations get tricky.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...165757.article

Is there a stand alone and profitable TV sports broadcaster?

telegramsam 06-12-2021 15:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36104470)
So, Discovery is now speaking to BT about a joint venture in sport as the DAZN-BT negotiations get tricky.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...165757.article

Is there a stand alone and profitable TV sports broadcaster?
Interesting development

Rillington 07-12-2021 14:57
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Indeed, and merging the rights held by Discovery via Eurosport and BT Sport would make this a very strong competitor with Sky as the rights held by Eurosport would compliment the rights held by BT Sport very well.

Media Boy UK 07-12-2021 15:24
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I hope Discovery do an deal with BT Sport as way back in 1990 WWE was on Eurosport every Friday night with an show called WWF* Prime Time when Sky part own Eurosport - Before Sky took over BSB and has an Sport channel - that was started by BSB.

*WWE was called WWF that the time.

alwaysabear 07-12-2021 15:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36104632)
Indeed, and merging the rights held by Discovery via Eurosport and BT Sport would make this a very strong competitor with Sky as the rights held by Eurosport would compliment the rights held by BT Sport very well.
Have to agree, would be strong competitor to sky with the BT content.

Media Boy UK 18-01-2022 17:25
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Sky Sports to broadcast 15 games from N. Ireland by end of season in 2025:

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ll_475651.html

Raider999 18-01-2022 19:19
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36110113)
Sky Sports to broadcast 15 games from N. Ireland by end of season in 2025:

https://www.mediamole.co.uk/entertai...ll_475651.html

Presuming that you are referring to NI Football - sky already shows a number of league games each season so presumably this is an extension of the contract?

Media Boy UK 20-01-2022 11:51
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Premiership Rugby to return to terrestrial on ITV with live games and highlights.

Premiership Rugby has agreed a deal to show live matches and highlights on ITV in a move that ends the English top division’s exile from free-to-air television.

BT Sport will remain the primary broadcast partner but ITV will simulcast a handful of live games each season, including the Premiership final, and air a weekly highlights show.

The deal takes effect this month and will run until the end of the 2023-24 season.

https://www.cityam.com/premiership-r...medium=twitter

jfman 20-01-2022 12:02
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Inflation at 7.5% RPI. If Sky/BT bung in those sort of price rises the decision by the EPL to roll over the Premiership rights and not stick it to an auction looks quite flawed. Unless of course there really was nobody out there interested.

1andrew1 20-01-2022 12:44
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Three years is a long time time to have rolled them over for.

Raider999 20-01-2022 16:16
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36110402)
Inflation at 7.5% RPI. If Sky/BT bung in those sort of price rises the decision by the EPL to roll over the Premiership rights and not stick it to an auction looks quite flawed. Unless of course there really was nobody out there interested.
At the time EPL took that decision there was a great deal of uncertainty due to Covid.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing - I would imagine they also took into account the fact BT were pulling back from buying rights.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36110406)
Three years is a long time time to have rolled them over for.
3 years is the standard term for EPL rights in UK

1andrew1 20-01-2022 16:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36110423)
3 years is the standard term for EPL rights in UK
I would have favoured extending them for a couple of years max to get more clarity during the fog of Covid but three years seems a bit excessive.

jfman 20-01-2022 18:09
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36110423)
At the time EPL took that decision there was a great deal of uncertainty due to Covid.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing - I would imagine they also took into account the fact BT were pulling back from buying rights.

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3 years is the standard term for EPL rights in UK
I did caveat my post with a big “unless” ;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36110430)
I would have favoured extending them for a couple of years max to get more clarity during the fog of Covid but three years seems a bit excessive.
If there were realistically “big pockets” streamers out there, yes. But if not…

If there were concerns about bidding at the same time as other rights a one year rollover and a five year auction to get back “on track” for 3 year auctions would have been interesting. Five years takes away the problem Setanta and ESPN had of quickly having the rug pulled from under them by Sky and BT before relatively establishing their business model. Something that no doubt puts any prospective bidders off.

DAZN might just hand BT 530 million reasons proving my point.

OLD BOY 20-01-2022 19:26
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36110451)

If there were realistically “big pockets” streamers out there, yes. But if not…
How could you doubt it? :rofl:

Media Boy UK 21-01-2022 12:09
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Formula E and Channel 4 enter multi-year broadcast deal

https://www.cityam.com/formula-e-and...medium=twitter

TimeLord2018 24-01-2022 13:38
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Sky Sports to remain home of Ryder Cup until 2025 and DP World Tour (formerly known as The European Tour) until 2024 under new deal
https://www.skysports.com/golf/ryder...under-new-deal

Raider999 27-01-2022 13:41
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Any further news on the fate of BT Sports?

carravetta 27-01-2022 14:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36111340)
Any further news on the fate of BT Sports?
Seen a few rumours recently that Disney are still keen

vincerooney 31-01-2022 23:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carravetta (Post 36111354)
Seen a few rumours recently that Disney are still keen
Might be why there hasnt been an announcement about WWE Network and Disney+ yet even though the UK market is the second biggest for WWE. If Disney buy BT Sport and then can do a grand announcement that Disney Plus will be the home for WWE Network too.

WWE on BT Sport and its network on Disney Plus etc.

TimeLord2018 01-02-2022 21:33
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
BT have opened talks with Premier League to seek its approval for the sale of BT Sport
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d...ghts-qz68h6qsq

Media Boy UK 02-02-2022 11:10
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36111957)
BT have opened talks with Premier League to seek its approval for the sale of BT Sport
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d...ghts-qz68h6qsq
Free to read: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...box=1643755597

Raider999 02-02-2022 11:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36112014)
Interesting development that Premier League and UEFA need to give their blessings to a sale

1andrew1 02-02-2022 12:22
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36112020)
Interesting development that Premier League and UEFA need to give their blessings to a sale
It's a standard change of ownership clause to protect rights holders.

Dingbat 03-02-2022 07:58
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Tweet from Marc Allera CEO of BT Consumer this morning:

“Not often we can talk about a potential partnership w/ one of the planet's largest content players.

After a detailed process to find the best way to strengthen our Sports biz, @BTGroup's in excl. talks with Discovery, Inc. on a deal to create a new broadcasting entity in the UK.

The proposed joint venture would act as a perfect home for our BT Sport business. With a shared ambition for growth and combination of our world-class sports assets along w/ Discovery’s premium sports and entmt content, our customers will benefit from more content in more places.

BT Group is aiming to conclude exclusive discussions with Discovery, Inc. in early Q1 and for the new company to be operational later this year, subject to completion of the deal and approval by the relevant competition authorities.“

TimeLord2018 03-02-2022 08:02
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Link
https://newsroom.bt.com/bt-group-ent...joint-venture/

That explains why Eurosport channels weren't removed from BT TV from 17th of January as originally planned.

cheekyangus 03-02-2022 08:40
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This Discovery press release on the BT Sport joint venture proposal. I've literally only just found it before I came here so I've no idea if it differs from the BT press release above in any useful way.
https://media.discoverysports.com/po...bt-group-to-cr

1andrew1 03-02-2022 09:10
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Looks like a sensible, complementary combination of sports businesses.

Branding will be the interesting question. I'm sure ESPN will go but will BT Sport remain as a brand?

jfman 03-02-2022 11:06
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Ouch. Deep pockets DAZN losing out to Eurosport.

Phunkenstein 03-02-2022 12:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36112202)
Ouch. Deep pockets DAZN losing out to Eurosport.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...eal-discovery/

And if the Telegraph’s reporting is confirmed, BT and Sky have tied up their deal past 2030… almost feels like this deal could end up being a small win for linear and traditional pay tv!

Phunkenstein 03-02-2022 12:41
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Never mind - it’s in BT’s Quarterly…

https://newsroom.bt.com/trading-upda...december-2021/

Reached agreement in principle with Sky for a new longer-term reciprocal channel supply deal to beyond 2030

TimeLord2018 04-02-2022 16:45
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36112173)
Looks like a sensible, complementary combination of sports businesses.

Branding will be the interesting question. I'm sure ESPN will go but will BT Sport remain as a brand?
BT deal with ESPN for the brand and content is up this year I think , ESPN was rebranded as BT Sport ESPN on 9th of June 2015 in a 7 year deal - was announced in January 2015.

Raider999 04-02-2022 19:45
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36112202)
Ouch. Deep pockets DAZN losing out to Eurosport.
What with this and Prime raising prices in America bodes well for streaming - the future of TV:D:D

vincerooney 11-02-2022 00:31
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
how intriguing...

So discovery/Warner would be Eurosport, discovery combined with HBO, CNN, TNT etc with BT Sport in theory.

I'm confused how are discovery that big of a company? Discovery channel hasnt been good for years. Eurosport was at its height in the early 90s. How have discovery remained a big company?!

TimeLord2018 11-02-2022 08:47
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36113139)
how intriguing...

So discovery/Warner would be Eurosport, discovery combined with HBO, CNN, TNT etc with BT Sport in theory.

I'm confused how are discovery that big of a company? Discovery channel hasnt been good for years. Eurosport was at its height in the early 90s. How have discovery remained a big company?!
Although the current Discovery CEO will be the CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery, AT&T Shareholders will hold a 71% stake in the new company.

cheekyangus 11-02-2022 10:10
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36113139)
how intriguing...

So discovery/Warner would be Eurosport, discovery combined with HBO, CNN, TNT etc with BT Sport in theory.

I'm confused how are discovery that big of a company? Discovery channel hasnt been good for years. Eurosport was at its height in the early 90s. How have discovery remained a big company?!
There can be lots of reasons. Often it can be as simple as perception. One person's perception isn't necessarily an accurate one. Just because you don't watch it anymore doesn't mean other people aren't, everyone has different tastes and habits.

The Pay TV market has got much, much larger since the early 90s. Many have a much larger audience worldwide than they did back then.

That the market is dominated by just a few companies these days, and they are still around and taking up so many channel positions still, compared to others, is a good indicator.

They have, like many others, bought many, many, other companies around the world. Most viewers don't realise who owns what, hence they can be bigger than people think.

alwaysabear 11-02-2022 11:03
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36113139)
how intriguing...

So discovery/Warner would be Eurosport, discovery combined with HBO, CNN, TNT etc with BT Sport in theory.

I'm confused how are discovery that big of a company? Discovery channel hasnt been good for years. Eurosport was at its height in the early 90s. How have discovery remained a big company?!
Eurosport has certainly increased its profile since 1990's. It's the home of cycling and all winter sport. I have watched it since the early 1990's watching cycling through the hazy picture right up to now in Hd. :D

Dingbat 11-02-2022 12:50
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 36113155)
Eurosport has certainly increased its profile since 1990's. It's the home of cycling and all winter sport. I have watched it since the early 1990's watching cycling through the hazy picture right up to now in Hd. :D
But the cycling on Eurosport now is only a fraction of what GCN cover on their app/online, apart from the TdF/Giro/Vuelta. They used to cover MotoGP until BT Sport acquired the rights, and their World Superbike coverage has gone downhill over the last couple of years.

All of it regularly gets bumped/delayed when the tennis or snooker is on.

cheekyangus 11-02-2022 15:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36113162)
But the cycling on Eurosport now is only a fraction of what GCN cover on their app/online, apart from the TdF/Giro/Vuelta. They used to cover MotoGP until BT Sport acquired the rights, and their World Superbike coverage has gone downhill over the last couple of years.

All of it regularly gets bumped/delayed when the tennis or snooker is on.
Given Discovery own GCN, I doubt they are concerned.

I suspect the reduction is due to a combination of increased snooker coverage, which probably appeals to more UK viewers, and that it quite deliberately pushes those that want more of the cycling, and uninterrupted, to take out a GCN+, or Discovery+ subscription.

There's plenty enough outside the Grand Tours for me, I don't have enough time to watch all Eurosport's other cycling coverage as it is now.

cheekyangus 20-02-2022 23:25
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Not my interest, but I thought others might want to know.
Premiership Rugby launches new streaming service.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/premiershi...eaming-service

ozsat 21-02-2022 07:50
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
This one does interest me - British Speedway Network launching in March.
https://britishspeedway.co.uk/watchspeedway/

Raider999 21-02-2022 15:30
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36114007)
Not my interest, but I thought others might want to know.
Premiership Rugby launches new streaming service.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/premiershi...eaming-service
I might have been interested, but not at £4.99 per game or £6.99 for all games in the week's round that aren't already on BT Sport.

It mentioned a season pass starting next season, but no idea of the cost - so I suspect they will review the take up for the rest of this season.

Additionally, it only seemed to be on computers/phones no mention of an app to load onto your TV or Roku type box (or have I missed something?) - I am not going to consider it if I cannot watch on my TV.

TimeLord2018 23-02-2022 09:56
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
ITV to broadcast EFL Highlights from next season
https://www.itv.com/football/article...om-next-season

braysoj1 23-02-2022 10:28
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Take it quest have lost the rights

Carth 23-02-2022 11:28
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It won't be the same :(

ITV will no doubt ruin it by changing the presenters and format . . .

Media Boy UK 23-02-2022 11:43
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36114281)
It won't be the same :(

ITV will no doubt ruin it by changing the presenters and format . . .
EFL Highlights may end up with more viewers as 99% can watch from August on Freeview due this deal with ITV, STV, UTV and ITV4.

TimeLord2018 08-03-2022 20:38
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Apple and MLB announce 'Friday Night Baseball' package
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...seball-package

Raider999 08-03-2022 22:16
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36116056)
Apple and MLB announce 'Friday Night Baseball' package
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...seball-package

Big girls rounders - I will give that a miss;)

johnathome 12-03-2022 16:21
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36116056)
Apple and MLB announce 'Friday Night Baseball' package
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...seball-package
Don't mind a bit of baseball but I assume I'd have to create an Apple ID to view them.

Doesn't mention times but I think Peacock are going to be showing some games with a late afternoon (UK) start.


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