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Stake = tent peg
State = territory, defined politically

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Going to have to update your profile moniker of Trollsplatter to Wordsmith :):)

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Well if all these are already millionaires then surely they haven’t gone into politics for the money, they must be doing it for the altruism of civic duty?

In regards to wealthy MPs, I doubt you’ll find many from any party that are on the bread line.

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I think there is a general unawareness of the Brexit Party, and once we have had the election campaign, a lot of UKIP voters will come across to Farage's party.

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Yes, because the Brexit vote will be divided between the Conservatives, Brexit and UKIP..

I would have thought the leavers in the Labour Party would also move over to the Brexit Party. They would find that more attractive than the extreme right wing UKIP bunch. So expect to see the Labour voting intentions to diminish.

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There's nothing altruistic about austerity.

More like it's to be paid for their influence, raise their profiles for speaking, consultancy, boardroom positions in the future.

I'm not saying it's unique to the Conservative Party either.

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On the contrary, Nige was the only reason many people voted UKIP last time. Had it not been for the toxicity of UKIP with its fanatical base, many more would have voted for them.

Nige has recognised this and formed his very own party. You have grossly underestimated Nigel Farage's popularity, but then again you are a remainer and presumably mix socially with remainers.

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I agree with that, Hugh. People really don't understand how much work MPs have to get through and what their motives are. The vast majority are motivated with a desire to serve their constituents and to make a difference.

It is undeniable that MPs have very little time to spend with their families, such is their dedication. To call them 'self-serving' is very unfair.

It is easy enough for 'Gogglebox' contenders to sit on their sofas eating pizzas and criticising. If they truly disapprove, they should get off their butts, put themselves forward as candidates, and have the courage of their convictions.

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Of course they want to make the world a better place! They want to make the country more prosperous (which is the way you fund public services sustainably), and being businessmen, they can see how this can be done.

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What are you on about? So Labour's record on housing between 1997 and 2010 was anything to shout about?

There is a huge house building programme currently taking place. Villages are turning into towns in the Thames Valley!.

This will reduce house prices to much more sustainable levels. Unfortunately, this does take time, but at least this Government is trying.

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More money in the hands of the few is not equal to making the country a better place. It’s only the way public services are funded if income and profits are effectively (and progressively) taxed. Something we know it isn’t.

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He has a big enough majority to sustain his position against those who voted for him before who don't really understand his stance on Brexit.

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I was there to day outside Parliament Square.

The were stopping several groups merging.

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There is talk that Anna Sourbitch, and two other MPs are going to try and make a law banning negative comments against MPs.

if you can't handle the heat, I'm sure a shelf stacking job awaits

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The only true bit about this comment is (1), because it is correct to say that the majority of his constituents voted to remain. However, as most thinking people appreciate, the electorate was promised that the result of the referendum would be honoured. Clearly, he is an honorable man because he is trying to honour that promise.

As for (2), there are many Brexiteers who do not agree with the pessimistic view that leaving without a deal would be a disaster, because it would not be. Rather, it would give us the opportunity to trade on our own terms, free from EU tariff policies, suffocating bureaucracy and legislation which hampers businesses' ability to function.

And in relation to (3), it is perfectly honorable to Brexit without being closely tied to EU policies and obligations as it is to have a bridging arrangement to smooth the transition.

Both the ERG and Theresa May are trying to help us leave the EU. The true disrupters are the remainers who are trying to prevent the will of the electorate. Shame on them.

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They get paid for their expertise. Can you justify your comment that those being paid from outside activity are doing less than those who don't?

As a Redwood constituent, I can tell you that I have raised a number of issues with him and received prompt and helpful responses. Xso I think your perception is completely wrong. Some people have an enormous capacity for work.

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suffocating bureaucracy and legislation which hampers businesses' ability to function.

That sounds more like trading on WTO rules with the largest single market in the world that just happens to be on your doorstep.

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There’s no requirement for me to justify comments I didn’t make, although it doesn’t surprise me you are getting into contortions trying to twist my words. :)

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We rely on businessmen to bring money into the country. If you want to tax them until the pips squeak, they will simply move elsewhere. This is something socialists simply don't want to address. It's the politics of jealousy promoted by those without a clue.

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Well, that was the implication as I read it. OK, I'll humour you. What did you really mean to imply, then?

As for WTO rules, they are clearly liberating compared with EU legislation.

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You’re making the false assumption that everyone can just up sticks, move somewhere else and make similar income/profits doing equivalent roles elsewhere. That’s very unlikely to be true for the vast majority of “businessmen”.

You’ve also personalised it, ignoring the big global companies who make huge profits from UK consumers and pay minimal tax here.

It’s not my obligation to explain my posts in greater detail because you fail to understand them.

So liberating very few countries trade on those terms.

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is that why only 1 country in world trade only on them OB