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virginruinedntl 05-09-2011 18:53
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new HD channel to launch on Freeview HD in April 2012: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/techno...031537.article

Maybe it will be BBC2HD, hope so!

passingbat 05-09-2011 18:57
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35296776)
Well l would say with Sky having sold 3,5 million HD boxes plus Virgin selling 1,5 million boxes plus Freeview HD boxes l think that tells you a story and that is many people want their channels to be on HD and want to watch them.

And on the 36,000 TV customer losses l suspect that their failure to add HD channels in the last 9 months has contributed significantly to these figures and l see you have no plausible answer so far.
Yes, but a lot of people get V+, Sky+Hd for PVR functionality. You can't gt a Sky+ box now and VM never produced an SD only PVR. And isn't the only PVR you can get on freesat, HD?

I agree sky have had success with HD. But that's never been in dispute. In fact, that's what I'm saying; HD enthusiasts are better served by Sky. Leave us who like HD, but aren't obsessed with it, on a service like Virgin, where you get a good amount of HD, but no charge

I have no plausible answer because I don't know the reason for the loss; you apparently do!

devilincarnate 05-09-2011 19:01
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35296784)
I agree sky have had success with HD. But that's never been in dispute. In fact, that's what I'm saying; HD enthusiasts are better served by Sky. Leave us who like HD, but aren't obsessed with it, on a service like Virgin, where you get a good amount of HD, but no charge
Do not forget that the V+ box and the up-scaling that it did and still does?

Henkesghost 05-09-2011 19:17
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35296785)
Do not forget that the V+ box and the up-scaling that it did and still does?

The no charge thing is a complete red herring. What do people want HD for in the main? Sport and Movies = £7 charge. Think most would be willing to pay the extra £3 to gain parity with sky. Obviously not most on here due to the village of the damned mentality.;)

passingbat 05-09-2011 19:32
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35296789)
The no charge thing is a complete red herring. What do people want HD for in the main? Sport and Movies = £7 charge. Think most would be willing to pay the extra £3 to gain parity with sky. Obviously not most on here due to the village of the damned mentality.;)
I don't pay the 7 pound charge, as I do't have sports and movies, so for people like me, that argument doesn't hold water.

But I do like the HD channels we get for no extra charge.

Hugh 05-09-2011 19:35
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35296781)
l see you have been reading your Capitalism books regularly.;):) and l quote you this one (Capitalism without bankruptcy is like Christianity without hell)
Wow - a quote from an ex-astronaut who took the airline he was CEO of into bankruptcy.

The relevance is underwhelming.....;)

denphone 05-09-2011 19:39
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35296790)
I don't pay the 7 pound charge, as I do't have sports and movies, so for people like me, that argument doesn't hold water.

But I do like the HD channels we get for no extra charge.
And you could still have them at no extra charge but that does not stop Virgin from providing more flexible HD packages to those who wanted them with a slight increase in their bill.

Hugh 05-09-2011 19:41
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35296789)
The no charge thing is a complete red herring. What do people want HD for in the main? Sport and Movies = £7 charge. Think most would be willing to pay the extra £3 to gain parity with sky. Obviously not most on here due to the village of the damned mentality.;)
Why not have a poll, to see if the figures back up your proposition?

btw "village of the damned" mentality? We are all alien implants? :confused:

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35296794)
And you could still have them at no extra charge but that does not stop Virgin from providing more flexible HD packages to those who wanted them with a slight increase in their bill.
And you know how these channels/packages are bought how?

In the 90s, the channel suppliers insisted on selling them in packs of channels in bandings (numbers of thousands of customers), and if that still the case today, VM (and customers who didn't want to pay for more HD) would have to subsidise those who do (as explained previously).

denphone 05-09-2011 19:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35296795)
Why not have a poll, to see if the figures back up your proposition?

btw "village of the damned" mentality? We are all alien implants? :confused:

---------- Post added at 18:41 ---------- Previous post was at 18:39 ----------

And you know how these channels/packages are bought how?

In the 90s, the channel suppliers insisted on selling them in packs of channels in bandings (numbers of thousands of customers), and if that still the case today, VM (and customers who didn't want to pay for more HD) would have to subsidise those who do (as explained previously).


I suspect your Times paywall subscription is being subsidised by other Times readers and l suspect you won't be moaning about that.

Media Boy UK 05-09-2011 19:57
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35296779)
Any news on PREMIER SPORTS coming to VM, or are they still having 'talks'.
Premier Sports was rumoured has set to launch on Virgin in August - No real news from my insider about it.

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Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 35296783)
new HD channel to launch on Freeview HD in April 2012: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/techno...031537.article

Maybe it will be BBC2HD, hope so!
I think Channel 5 HD will get that new slot on Freeview.

devilincarnate 05-09-2011 19:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35296789)
The no charge thing is a complete red herring. What do people want HD for in the main? Sport and Movies = £7 charge. Think most would be willing to pay the extra £3 to gain parity with sky. Obviously not most on here due to the village of the damned mentality.;)
Yes SKY has the Movie's and Sports cornered for the moment. We all need to wait for the reports and the appeals to be done:D

virginruinedntl 05-09-2011 19:58
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i hope not mediaboy, there is nothing on that channel. BBC2HD would be great, most of the bbc's decent shows would be upscaled or in HD, would be great!

muppetman11 05-09-2011 20:03
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35296789)
The no charge thing is a complete red herring. What do people want HD for in the main? Sport and Movies = £7 charge. Think most would be willing to pay the extra £3 to gain parity with sky. Obviously not most on here due to the village of the damned mentality.;)
Don't forget new customers pay 49.95 HD Activation fee or what ever they call it these days.

devilincarnate 05-09-2011 20:05
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35296809)
Don't forget new customers pay 49.95 HD Activation fee or what ever they call it these days.
Well at least they have paid it off as you still pay a lot more for the HD on SKY over the same period of the contract length?:confused:

HD Boy 05-09-2011 20:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35296804)
Premier Sports was rumoured has set to launch on Virgin in August - No real news from my insider about it.
this was posted a couple of days a go http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1406.html


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