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I actually think Badenoch has struck the right balance on this, as much as I normally disagree with her on everything.

She is appealing for calm, in constract to Farage's pot-stirring, and asking for answers without exploting the situation. Calling for rage isn't helping. Even if I think he can't be directly held responsible for the scenes we saw in Southamption, it does show why politicans have to be careful with their language.

As for Reform, do they do any vetting? This candidate for the by-election seems to have no end of troubling tweets brought up. They've hamstrung themselves right out the gate.

papa smurf

05-06-2026 08:07

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36216697)

I actually think Badenoch has struck the right balance on this, as much as I normally disagree with her on everything.

She is appealing for calm, in constract to Farage's pot-stirring, and asking for answers without exploting the situation. Calling for rage isn't helping. Even if I think he can't be directly held responsible for the scenes we saw in Southamption, it does show why politicans have to be careful with their language.

As for Reform, do they do any vetting? This candidate for the by-election seems to have no end of troubling tweets brought up. They've hamstrung themselves right out the gate.

i don't think most reform voters give a toss about what old social media posts are causing woke lefties to have a melt down

what sickened me was starmer inviting the nowak family to downing street in full public view,playing politics to enhance his profile

Damien

05-06-2026 08:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36216698)

i don't think most reform voters give a toss about what old social media posts are causing woke lefties to have a melt down

I know Reform voters don't, but Reform need to appeal to a wider electorate. Especially women. There is a natural cap on the number of people who'll appeal to with a candidate who has expressed anti-abortion, anti-Ukraine sentiments. It plays very well on Twitter. Not to much in real life.

Carth

05-06-2026 09:22

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In my personal life I can't remember many of the women I've known having the faintest interest in politics, it doesn't have the same 'gossip appeal' as Gladys at number 27 taking that young male lodger in, or the farcebook posts about todays bargains at Primark.

Sephiroth

05-06-2026 10:34

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36216688)

Having a prepared answer is not comparable to Farage's video.

Badenoch and Davey were respectful to the wishes of the deceased's parents. It is a shame Farage was not.

Never mind the Badenoch/Davey "tone". Farage is telling iot as it is and more of that is needed in Parliament.

Carth

05-06-2026 12:29

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I think after those latest local elections there were quite a few people telling stuff as it is . . whether those currently in power were listening is anyone's guess though ;)

Sephiroth

05-06-2026 12:33

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36216708)

I think after those latest local elections there were quite a few people telling stuff as it is . . whether those currently in power were listening is anyone's guess though ;)

Doesn't need guessing. They know and shut it out for woke reasons.

Only Reform is calling the woke nonsense out properly. I want my party to do the same.

1andrew1

06-06-2026 16:16

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36216709)

Doesn't need guessing. They know and shut it out for woke reasons.

Only Reform is calling the woke nonsense out properly. I want my party to do the same.

Reform absolutely misrepresented what your Party's leader actually said. This is really gutter-level politics.

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Speaking on yesterday’s Good Morning Britain, the Conservative leader set out her admirable approach: “I don’t want to hear about Black Lives Matter. I don’t want to hear about White Lives Matter. We all matter. Enough of this nonsense…”

Her comments were immediately used in an attack ad by Reform, taking her phrase “I don’t want to hear about White Lives Matter” and contrasting it with words she used in 2020: “Black lives do matter”. The intention is clear: look at this black woman, who doesn’t give a damn about whites and cares only about blacks.

As I say, I’ve been around the block a bit, but in all those decades I’ve never come across a distortion as wilful, clear and grotesque as this. Both phrases lifted by Reform are not so much taken out of context as handed entirely the opposite meaning.

https://spectator.com/article/zia-yu...s-a-hypocrite/

TheDaddy

06-06-2026 20:46

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36216772)

Reform absolutely misrepresented what your Party's leader actually said. This is really gutter-level politics.

https://spectator.com/article/zia-yu...s-a-hypocrite/

Black lives matter would have been better clarifying the name for those who misrepresent for their own agenda or who are to thick to work it the name should actually mean black lives matter as well, not that their lives are more important, just that they matter too

Sephiroth

06-06-2026 21:40

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There was never a need in the UK for any sort of BLM movement. We are nothing like the USA other than a common language. The woke leftie establishment took up the BLM nonsense because it suited them to do so. All lives matter and that goes without needing to be said and the UK is much nearer to that ideal than the USA.

TheDaddy

06-06-2026 22:34

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36216790)

Never said there was a need here and I actually agree and have said similar on this very forum

Sephiroth

07-06-2026 06:45

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.... and I was agreeing with The Daddy. Fancy that!

OLD BOY

07-06-2026 09:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36216772)

Reform absolutely misrepresented what your Party's leader actually said. This is really gutter-level politics.

https://spectator.com/article/zia-yu...s-a-hypocrite/

Oh, the outrage! It's a shame that all the smears against Reform UK don't get called out in the same way.

You don't like it when the boot is on the other foot, do you? Reform is simply fighting fire with fire.

Hugh	07-06-2026 10:41

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You seem be equating when people report actual facts with evidence (re Farage £5 million not declared) with Reform actually lying about what people actually said.

You really are buying vat-size containers of the Kool-Aid…

1andrew1

07-06-2026 22:06

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36216805)

I'm very certain that if Reform UK is misquoted, you'll be kind enough to keep us updated.

In terms of fighting fire with fire, I guess you're suggesting that Reform UK was misquoted by the Conservative Party? Even if this was true, two wrongs don't make a right and Reform UK should not do the same.

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