Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35965013)

Im curious whether you have a credible source for this claim or if it’s just the usual remainer wishful thinking? I’m willing to bet “the public” is ambivalent at most, and most of those who actively mistrust chlorine washing are under the misapprehension that it’s unsafe.

Did you realise that the EU accepts that the process is safe Mr K?

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35965013)

Im curious whether you have a credible source for this claim or if it’s just the usual remainer wishful thinking? I’m willing to bet “the public” is ambivalent at most, and most of those who actively mistrust chlorine washing are under the misapprehension that it’s unsafe.

Did you realise that the EU accepts that the process is safe Mr K?



It would only decimate our farming sector if we continued to ban our own farmers from using safe, efficient means of ensuring chicken is germ-free. Freedom from blatant protectionism is one of the principal reasons why leaving the EU -and being outside the single market- is such a good idea. If our farmers want to sell to the EU then naturally they will have to observe the regulations of that market, but anything they sell within the UK must only match the rules set for the UK, by our parliament. There’s no reason why safe, germ- fee chlorine washed chicken can’t be legally produced here after Brexit. It will be entirely our own decision.

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35965021)

What it comes down to is profits are better with chlorine washing vs EU welfare standards.

Birds in the US are kept tightly packed, increasing the risk of cross infection. EU birds have more space, so less chance of cross contamination.

Also employees standards are better in the EU vs the US.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35965047)

As posted earlier, there is less chance of human infection with chlorinated chicken than the chicken we currently get from the EU. So that is nothing to do with profits.

I am surprised that you promote EU welfare standards when you must be aware that they are pretty deplorable when compared to UK standards.

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35965021)

What it comes down to is profits are better with chlorine washing vs EU welfare standards.

Birds in the US are kept tightly packed, increasing the risk of cross infection. EU birds have more space, so less chance of cross contamination.

Also employees standards are better in the EU vs the US.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35965050)

The EU might well say the same about us - Foot and Mouth Disease, Mad Cow Disease, we've not got a great record.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35965050)

The EU might well say the same about us - Foot and Mouth Disease, Mad Cow Disease, we've not got a great record.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35965050)

The EU might well say the same about us - Mad Cow Disease, we've not got a great record.

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35965021)

What it comes down to is profits are better with chlorine washing vs EU welfare standards.

Birds in the US are kept tightly packed, increasing the risk of cross infection. EU birds have more space, so less chance of cross contamination.

Also employees standards are better in the EU vs the US.

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35965070)

So why assume even worse US animal welfare standards would be acceptable?

The reason the EU have banned chlorine washing is to improve welfare standards, as chlorine washing hides a multitude of sins, including removing the surface slime that appears, giving a false impression that the meat is fresher than it is.

The worst aspect is there is no need to advise customers that the chicken is chlorine washed, as it is a process rather than an ingredient.

Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35965065)

According to the World Animal Protection Index ( https://api.worldanimalprotection.org/ ) the only countries in Europe with worse animal protection indices in Europe than the US are Belarus, Turkey and The Ukraine, none of which are in the EU. There are only four 'class A' countries - UK, New Zealand, Austria and Switzerland with Austria being the highest.

I notice that the motion to transfer Article 13 of the Lisbon Treaty which covers animal sentience in to the Brexit Bill was voted down. Hopefully, there will be a separate bill or we will be slipping down that index.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35965013)

Im curious whether you have a credible source for this claim or if it’s just the usual remainer wishful thinking? I’m willing to bet “the public” is ambivalent at most, and most of those who actively mistrust chlorine washing are under the misapprehension that it’s unsafe

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35965013)

Did you realise that the EU accepts that the process is safe Mr K?

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35964973)

From that, We can all see that you are content with the skewing and hegemonist gets that I have described. 52% of the UK disagrees with you.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35965086)

I don't see a problem with chlorinated chicken, but most British people would have problems with the conditions in which these American chickens are reared. These are two different things.

Having said this, the Mail is known for over-hyping its stories, and I would question whether all US farms were like this. Some British farmers are not that good either, particularly those managing battery farms.

I would have thought that any trade deal with the US would specify standards expected of any imports into this country. This would include inspections by UK vets.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35965073)

I dare say the country of origin would be a dead giveaway. Frankly, I can't see this as being a major turnoff for British consumers, particularly if it's cheaper.