Cable Forum - President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

tbh Mick, we're the ones that broke the friendship. The US is becoming increasingly isolationist under Trump, so we:re going to get no favours there. He'll enjoy tea with Queen and a round of golf, but that'll be it. We have very little in common with the US and a lot in common with our largest trading partner, the EU. Quite frankly, we're bonkers, one thing we do share with Trump....

Mick	15-07-2018 22:41

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They were never our friends, if there was any relationship, when David Cameron went over to Brussels in 2016, looking for concessions and he got jack shit, they stuck two fingers up at us and they basically hammered the last nail in the coffin.

1andrew1

16-07-2018 07:36

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The EU are supporting us against the US's protectionist tariffs and against Russia following the terror attack in Salisbury.
So I think friends from that perspective.

Mick	16-07-2018 08:00

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Disagree. EU are not our friends, I don’t want to be friends with a corrupt entity, let alone be associated with them.

Hugh	16-07-2018 08:35

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35954657)

Disagree. EU are not our friends, I don’t want to be friends with a corrupt entity, let alone be associated with them.

Well, that rules Trump and his administration out...

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-of-corruption

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...-deutche-bank/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...pruitt/563441/

Stephen

16-07-2018 08:36

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You might think that but the EU have done a lot of good things over the years.

Let's see what Trump hits out with later after his meeting with his best pal.

Oh look

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Congratulations to France, who played extraordinary soccer, on winning the 2018 World Cup. Additionally, congratulations to President Putin and Russia for putting on a truly great World Cup Tournament -- one of the best ever!

Had to give a shout out to Putin, didn't he. What exactly did Putin have to do with FIFA organising the whole thing. Best ever??

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Received many calls from leaders of NATO countries thanking me for helping to bring them together and to get them focused on financial obligations, both present & future. We had a truly great Summit that was inaccurately covered by much of the media. NATO is now strong & rich!

erm..... taking credit for NATO now as well. Haha delusional man.

Mick	16-07-2018 09:08

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35954661)

You might think that but the EU have done a lot of good things over the years.

No they have not - all they have done is rob us of the membership fee and give us some membership discount on trade, biggest con job ever.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Let's see what Trump hits out with later after his meeting with his best pal.

Oh look

Had to give a shout out to Putin, didn't he. What exactly did Putin have to do with FIFA organising the whole thing. Best ever??

Well actually, when you remove the ridiculous Trump hating hysteria, the President of FIFA also said it was the 'best ever' World Cup when he met Putin last night. I don't see you calling out him. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Stephen

Haha delusional man.

Rubbish - if he can get the other nations that are NOT spending their fair share on commitments then he should be calling them out - it is yet again, your OTT Trump hating hysteria that is blinding you from reality. :rolleyes:

Stephen

16-07-2018 09:14

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FIFA is also one of the most corrupt business' around.

The other NATO countries already had an agreement to spend 2% of GDP on defence by a certain time. Trump had no effect on that and no new agreement was made. So he is trying to take credit for something that never happened.

Mick	16-07-2018 09:17

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35954660)

Well nothing - I am not associated with Trump in any way, so all the above googling and linking is irrelevant. :rolleyes:

I am however stuck/associated in the EU which I do not want to be.

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35954668)

But they still said it, you single out Trump but not FIFA. :rolleyes:

As for NATO spending, Key word is "Yet".

Stephen

16-07-2018 09:37

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I said that FIFA is corrupt. They will probably say that after every world cup.

Damien

16-07-2018 16:52

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Trump/Putin meeting coming up any moment now

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Trump refuses to back the intelligence services when asked if he believes them or Putin.

Hugh	16-07-2018 18:29

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35954723)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44852812

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At a news conference after the summit, President Trump was asked if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections.

"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it should be," he replied.

US intelligence agencies concluded in 2016 that Russia was behind an effort to tip the scale of the US election against Hillary Clinton, with a state-authorised campaign of cyber attacks and fake news stories planted on social media.

In other news, the Police identified the burglar who robbed my house, and when I asked him if he had burgled my house, he said he didn’t do it - that settled it for me...

Hugh	16-07-2018 21:32

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Putin at joint press conference today.

http://time.com/5339830/donald-trump...inki-meddling/ [quote]

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“President Trump mentioned the issue of the so-called interference of Russia in the American elections, and I had to reiterate things I said several times — including during our personal contacts — that the Russian state has never interfered and is not going to interfere into internal American affairs, including election processes,” Putin said.

A few hours later...

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...t-infiltrating

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A Russian woman living in D.C. has been charged for conspiring to work for the Russian government by establishing relationships and infiltrating organizations that have influence in U.S. politics, the Department of Justice (DOJ) announced Monday.

Federal authorities on Sunday arrested Maria Butina, a 29-year-old Russian citizen, and charged her “with conspiracy to act as an agent of the Russian Federation within the United States without prior notification to the Attorney General,” according to a DOJ press release.

The DOJ alleges that Butina acted with “the purpose of advancing the interests of the Russian Federation” at the direction a “high-level” Russian official.

“The court filings detail the Russian official’s and Butina’s efforts for Butina to act as an agent of Russia inside the United States by developing relationships with U.S. persons and infiltrating organizations having influence in American politics, for the purpose of advancing the interests of the Russian Federation,” the press release notes, citing the affidavit in support of the complaint.

“Butina worked at the direction of a high-level official in the Russian government who was previously a member of the legislature of the Russian Federation and later became a top official at the Russian Central Bank,” the DOJ says, noting she did this work from as early as 2015 until at least February 2017.

papa smurf

16-07-2018 21:39

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[QUOTE=Hugh;35954780]Putin at joint press conference today.

http://time.com/5339830/donald-trump...inki-meddling/

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A few hours later...

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...t-infiltrating

That's convenient .

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