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There is a 7 page testimony on Senate website on what Comey is going to say up to a point.

Nothing new so far. It backs news stories in Washington Post and New York Times. But according to some US Attorney's they are coming out and saying someone who leaked that to them could be in serious trouble, if found out who they are, as they broke the law leaking that to them.

But asking for loyalty, Trump was his boss, nothing wrong with a boss asking for loyalty.

Comey told then President-Elect Trump he was not under personal FBI Investigation.

Trump did NOT order Flynn investigation to be closed, his words were, 'I hope you can let this go, let Flynn go, he is a good guy.' The word 'hope' was used twice. Big difference between hoping for something or ordering someone to do something.

Comey has to be very careful as he could implement himself into an indictment. How can he say he thought the president was attempting to obstruct justice without incriminating himself. Him sitting on the information and not reporting a potential case of obstruction to the Senate when he is bound by the duty to report such a thing so, could see Comey in trouble himself.

Months ago, scores of Democrats wanted Comey fired, but now he has been, it's a different story. Of course scores of Democrats and liberals screaming Obstruction, impeach etc etc. But they are simply being partisan.

We should see how it plays out later today.

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David Aaronovitch in The Times nearly sums up what Trump did.
and he concludes
I wonder how Trump's words will impact his visit to the UK?

Source: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/c...dent-qx8wttqjj

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Agreed, will be fascinating.

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It's the end of the discussion where people are telling me my earlier post was not being mis-represented, when it quite clearly was. As this was days ago, not sure why Stephen felt the need to bring it up again, but the issue to me is done and dusted with.

As for the topic. It's not the end of the discussion on what seems to be the real life soap opera that trounces, House of Cards.... :D

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Well as its a discussion, I am perfectly entitled to post about it even if it was a day or so ago. I was not on the forum much this week so just posting my views and opinions.

Trump, not so much house of cards as the circus is in town and everyone has come to see it.

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I have to say, Liberal drivel. :zzz:

Trump was wrong to tweet what he did and has been said so by our own PM.

But.....Remember this is a Mayor who has said those who live in big cities should come to expect terrorism. He said this when a bomb went off in New York and while he was there.

Lots of questions why Khan sat on recommendations to put barriers up around landmarks, he should have sought funding that got that emergency infrastructure up and in place that could have prevented both the Westminster Bridge attack and this latest attack on another London Bridge. This is now in place, but it should not have taken two attacks to get it there.

I have seen this question being asked again and again in the last few days, this stemming from the last car crash interview with Diane Abbott, in which a Terror Review Report was completed by Lord Toby Harris, in which he made those barrier recommendations, after the Nice Terror Attack and this report was then commissioned by Sadiq Khan in Oct 2016.

So while he is being critical of Trump's flaws, he has his own here.

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I think Surveillance/Unmasking is going to be the big story in the end.


Full story here:


http://circa.com/politics/accountabi...g-on-americans

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Given the accuracy of the NYTimes leaks it looks very likely it was Corney himself who leaked it to them. There were only two people in the room and only one person who knew that Corney would put in his statement - himself. If it was Corney it was someone close to him.

I don't see see how 'they' broke the law though. Corney's statements aren't classified.

The FBI Director should be non-partisan and his loyalty is to his office not the President.

That said the statement seems to reveal more of Trump's ego than it shows obstruction IMO.

Of course but then so are the Republicans. If Clinton had won the election and fired Corney whilst he was still investigating the e-mails do you think that wouldn't have been a big scandal?

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Comey just admitted he leaked the contents of his notes!

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I'm perplexed. Comey says at start he doesn't think he was ordered to drop Flynn investigation, the words used did not amount to an order but he believes he was ordered.

I'm surprised he was the source of the leak.

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He is saying that there wasn't a direct order but an implicit one.

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He keeps pushing the more interesting questions to the closed session.

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Looks like Trumps Attorney's have told him to stay off Twitter. U.S Journalists said he may have live tweeted during the session.

The question of does he think if Hillary Clinton was President, does he think she would have fired him made me giggle and Comey said, not sure, it's possible.

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He has been pretty critical of Clinton as well during this. Think he has measured out every word to appear calm and unbiased.

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Surveillance of US citizens by US intelligence and security agencies is hardly any revelation at all most americans i know just assume their internet traffic is monitored and their mail scanned not a big deal at all really in terms of it coming out. Whether it's right or wrong is upto US citizens to decide and take appropriate action over and given it was going on long before trump got into office not sure it affects him one iota. Whilst it's true the head of the FBI is not supposed to be political again the position was politicised a long long time ago and i doubt Trump said more then any other president before him.

There is very clearly a campaign against Trump that seizes on the slightest thing but it isn't helped by Trump stacking the ammunition boxes for them and I'd have expected him to play this game a lot better then he has. As a businessman he was able to issue any order he saw fit and behave in a way that might have annoyed people but ultimately didn't really bother them, he seems to think that style can work in the white house and it's what's creating most of his problems.

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The likes of NYT and Washington Post being aggressively Anti-Trump. I agree with what one of the senators said in the hearing, all these leaks about Memos, crime scene photos of Manchester Arena and yet they couldn't leak the fact that President Trump was not under FBI investigation, it's too positive for their liberal stance, this had never been made official until today.

But don't get me started on the likes of NYT and other US media outlets, who leaked photos of the bomb fragments from Manchester Arena and the day before that, a picture of dead bodies on the floor of the foyer of Manchester Arena with blood smeared here and there. They are so wrapped up in their political stance with Trump that they completely had a ethics bypass sharing foreign intelligence during what was a active investigation.

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I came across this Tweet from the Senate Democrats and it is disturbing if true:

"Will there be a hearing on the health care proposal?" Senator @clairecmc asked today in the Finance Cmte. You should watch: #Trumpcare

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Looks like Trump may be postponing his visit here due to fears of protests.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...in-put-on-hold