Originally Posted by Derekb108 (Post 35769041)

Its probably harder to get ondemand contracts due to the exclusively of sky's deals. Sky's tendencies to make deals exclusively to their platforms and thus makes it harder for other platforms to make deals. And kills other ondemand platforms dead in the water.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35769092)

And yet BT , Talk Talk , Netflix and Amazon still manage to have compelling enough offers.

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35769029)

I think you are right Vince. In my opinion I also think VM are now starting to suffer due to lack of content ownership. Sky own much of their content and can afford to advertise half price deals, Sky Atlantic, etc and BT can use BT Sport as a pull to get customers to sign up for their products. Both Sky and BT can also make money from distributing their content online through Now TV and the BT Sport app/website whereas in these days of growing streaming, VM have nothing to offer in terms of content. VM have also lost their big advantage of fibre BB too since the Infinity roll out began.

VM's whole marketing strategy is we've got the fastest broadband and you get 3 tuners on TiVo, free repairs and some other free crap included.

I would hazard a guess that, unless you are a heavy downloader and need the bandwidth, most consumers would be more than happy with a reliable 50Mb connection for general browsing, streaming, etc. Therefore VM need to realise that this continual speed doubling is getting to the stage where very few people will care what the headline speeds are because to the average consumer, they will notice little difference between 100Mb and 300Mb.

So whilst VM will always have a strong offering in the BB market, their TV service is suffering as not only do they lack some content but they are probably the most expensive provider if you choose to take premium content like Sky Sports / Movies.

And regardless of all the above, the number 1 deciding factor for most consumers is price. VM therefore have to be careful not to price themselves out of the market. I notice on the VM website that they've got some pretty decent discounts on their bundles for new customers so I think it will be an interesting few months ahead as Sky and BT are becoming more aggresive and both are / will soon be offering quad-play options too.

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35769029)

I think you are right Vince. In my opinion I also think VM are now starting to suffer due to lack of content ownership. Sky own much of their content and can afford to advertise half price deals, Sky Atlantic, etc and BT can use BT Sport as a pull to get customers to sign up for their products. Both Sky and BT can also make money from distributing their content online through Now TV and the BT Sport app/website whereas in these days of growing streaming, VM have nothing to offer in terms of content. VM have also lost their big advantage of fibre BB too since the Infinity roll out began.

VM's whole marketing strategy is we've got the fastest broadband and you get 3 tuners on TiVo, free repairs and some other free crap included.

I would hazard a guess that, unless you are a heavy downloader and need the bandwidth, most consumers would be more than happy with a reliable 50Mb connection for general browsing, streaming, etc. Therefore VM need to realise that this continual speed doubling is getting to the stage where very few people will care what the headline speeds are because to the average consumer, they will notice little difference between 100Mb and 300Mb.

So whilst VM will always have a strong offering in the BB market, their TV service is suffering as not only do they lack some content but they are probably the most expensive provider if you choose to take premium content like Sky Sports / Movies.

And regardless of all the above, the number 1 deciding factor for most consumers is price. VM therefore have to be careful not to price themselves out of the market. I notice on the VM website that they've got some pretty decent discounts on their bundles for new customers so I think it will be an interesting few months ahead as Sky and BT are becoming more aggresive and both are / will soon be offering quad-play options too.

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35769029)

I think you are right Vince. In my opinion I also think VM are now starting to suffer due to lack of content ownership. Sky own much of their content and can afford to advertise half price deals, Sky Atlantic, etc and BT can use BT Sport as a pull to get customers to sign up for their products. Both Sky and BT can also make money from distributing their content online through Now TV and the BT Sport app/website whereas in these days of growing streaming, VM have nothing to offer in terms of content. VM have also lost their big advantage of fibre BB too since the Infinity roll out began.

VM's whole marketing strategy is we've got the fastest broadband and you get 3 tuners on TiVo, free repairs and some other free crap included.

I would hazard a guess that, unless you are a heavy downloader and need the bandwidth, most consumers would be more than happy with a reliable 50Mb connection for general browsing, streaming, etc. Therefore VM need to realise that this continual speed doubling is getting to the stage where very few people will care what the headline speeds are because to the average consumer, they will notice little difference between 100Mb and 300Mb.

So whilst VM will always have a strong offering in the BB market, their TV service is suffering as not only do they lack some content but they are probably the most expensive provider if you choose to take premium content like Sky Sports / Movies.

And regardless of all the above, the number 1 deciding factor for most consumers is price. VM therefore have to be careful not to price themselves out of the market. I notice on the VM website that they've got some pretty decent discounts on their bundles for new customers so I think it will be an interesting few months ahead as Sky and BT are becoming more aggresive and both are / will soon be offering quad-play options too.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35769092)

And yet BT , Talk Talk , Netflix and Amazon still manage to have compelling enough offers.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35769220)

I've said it before i'll say it again VM do not like spending money they are money grabbing <insert word here>

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35769222)

And the others ain't money grabbing then?.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35769226)

Others invest in content so there's your answer.
Are all out to make profit then yes afterall they are a business and that's what businesses do.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35769228)

Virgin are investing a lot too or have you not noticed.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/...edia-3-billion

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/vir...5-04-02-917329

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35769147)

I think if people moved about providers there are a ton of savings to be made out there. But I'm too lazy to leave virgin media unless prices went up extremely. The hassle of switching broadband and tv at once would annoy me. I'm a lazy, lazy man

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35769188)

LG have just sold five of their film channels:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201503283...#axzz3WAGDRief

Their business model doesn't appear to be content led.

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35769242)

He who has content to provide holds more power at the bargaining table.

If YouView does get nowtv that could be a game changer imo

What's the use of a set top box that has all the tuners and gizmo if there is nothing to watch on it