Cable Forum - PM Boris forms a government

I think you're misrepresenting the ignorance of young people, they tend to be smarter than their elders (who aren't always that informed either) give them credit for.

Young people are simply inexperienced, which is no reflection on their intelligence. They tend to believe what their teachers tell them, and of course teachers tend to support staying in the EU.

Sephiroth

31-08-2019 19:26

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36008224)

I think you're misrepresenting the ignorance of young people, they tend to be smarter than their elders (who aren't always that informed either) give them credit for.

I assure you that when divers younger people, say up to age 33, discuss Brexit with me they bring up in their ignorance the points I mentioned.

They also know nothing about recent history, including John Major's hypocrisy and being Remainers, the prorogation is undemocratic and another 3 years of fruitless debate is democratic.

Jeez.

1andrew1

31-08-2019 19:40

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36008229)

Come on Seph, when you tell them that at last we have an honest government you can't blame them for taking your next pronouncements - as correct as they may be - with a large pinch of salt.

Sephiroth

31-08-2019 20:53

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36008231)

Come on Seph, when you tell them that at last we have an honest government you can't blame them for taking your next pronouncements - as correct as they may be - with a large pinch of salt.

Andrew, where has this government been dishonest? It's no good going back to the £350 million bus - just in case you wanted to use that kind of argument.

Pierre

31-08-2019 21:38

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36008224)

I think you're misrepresenting the ignorance of young people, they tend to be smarter than their elders (who aren't always that informed either) give them credit for.

It is a generalisation I agree. There are gullible people old and young on both sides of the debate, that will believe anything they are told, or that is posted on FB, Twitter etc, without researching things for themselves from trusted sources.

For example, the youth are told after Brexit that they won’t be able to travel in Europe, that they won’t be able to work in Europe, that they won’t be able to study in Europe.....all of which is complete tosh, and they believe it.

Mick	31-08-2019 22:14

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36008235)

For example, the youth are told after Brexit that they won’t be able to travel in Europe, that they won’t be able to work in Europe, that they won’t be able to study in Europe.....all of which is complete tosh, and they believe it.

Maybe also because they have been told the great fib that we're leaving Europe. I had an old fella tell me he voted Remain because he wanted to remain European, I told him, we would still be, as and when we actually leave.

1andrew1

31-08-2019 23:49

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36008234)

Andrew, where has this government been dishonest? It's no good going back to the £350 million bus - just in case you wanted to use that kind of argument.

Seph, that particular bus was not done by the Government.
I refer of course to the more recent lies including stating that Project Yellowhammer was produced by Theresa May's administration and was out of date when they knew it was produced in August 2019 for the current regime. I could list many more but I need to go to bed this side of 4am. ;)

nomadking

01-09-2019 00:10

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36008248)

So the contents were new and not just a rehash of old scare stories?:rolleyes:

1andrew1

01-09-2019 00:26

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36008251)

So the contents were new and not just a rehash of old scare stories?:rolleyes:

Not scare stories - Project Yellowhammer is about the most likely scenario, not the worst-case scenario.

Hugh	01-09-2019 00:27

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36008251)

So the contents were new and not just a rehash of old scare stories?:rolleyes:

It was an updated risk assessment, highlighting the likely scenarios and mitigating actions - so no, not a "rehash of old scare stories"

nomadking

01-09-2019 00:33

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36008254)

It was an updated risk assessment, highlighting the likely scenarios and mitigating actions - so no, not a "rehash of old scare stories"

"Likely" doesn't come into it as it was "worst case" scenario. Was there anything new?

1andrew1

01-09-2019 00:48

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36008255)

"Likely" doesn't come into it as it was "worst case" scenario. Was there anything new?

It was not a worst-case scenario.

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A senior Whitehall source quoted by the Sunday Times said: "This is not Project Fear - this is the most realistic assessment of what the public face with no deal. These are likely, basic, reasonable scenarios - not the worst case."

https://news.sky.com/story/operation...ained-11788972

pip08456

01-09-2019 00:54

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36008256)

It was not a worst-case scenario.

https://news.sky.com/story/operation...ained-11788972

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However, the French official told The Telegraph that Britons should ignore the hype.

“There are certain individuals in the UK who are whipping up this catastrophism for their own purposes,” he said.

“This has provoked a lot of concern, but basically ‘c’est la bullshit’. Nothing is going to happen the day after Brexit.”

Link

Pierre

01-09-2019 13:03

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This shows perfectly what we’re up against as a country.

Labour accuse the Tories of being anti-democratic..................

At least BoJo is trying to deliver what was voted for. This video just underlined how duplicitous Labour are.

https://www.facebook.com/stopthelabo...550839?sfns=mo

pip08456

01-09-2019 13:11

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36008283)