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Ignitionnet 23-04-2016 13:40

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YouGov, 2,824 voters.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/04/5.jpg

Big Brian 23-04-2016 13:59

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35833867)
That is the point i'm making ,most ordinary people will base their voting intentions on what they hear on the news or read in the Sun/Mirror etc ,or see in their local area not what various trade organisations,treasury statistics or Obama says .For most people the EU is perceived to be a money grabbing ,freedom sucking bloated organisation and that is what they will base their decision on regardless of what the facts are

Agreed it will make some people vote to stay but look at it this way speaking of their areas. The Steel Industry, for example. What is the EU actually doing to help us? Nothing. It's up to the Buyers and Government to come up with a solution. Shows you don't have to be in the EU to make this possible.

pip08456 23-04-2016 14:19

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The Governments leaflet Fact Checked.

https://speakout.38degrees.org.uk/ca...ct-check-video

Michael Gove Fact Checked

https://speakout.38degrees.org.uk/ca...ave-fact-check

Big Brian 23-04-2016 14:23

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35833873)

Annoyed about it

denphone 23-04-2016 14:30

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My decision will be down to what l think as no politician be it from this country or from the land of the free is going to influence me one jot at the end of the day.

Big Brian 23-04-2016 14:32

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35833879)

Interesting stuff. The lesson there is it doesn't really make any difference if we leave the EU. Swings & Roundabouts I believe is the correct expression.

Hugh 23-04-2016 15:48

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Originally Posted by Big Brian (Post 35833882)
Interesting stuff. The lesson there is it doesn't really make any difference if we leave the EU. Swings & Roundabouts I believe is the correct expression.

Challenge for the Brexiteers, if it doesn't make any difference, is that most people vote for the status quo if there are no major benefits from leaving...

Osem 23-04-2016 17:54

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What's Obama banging on about advising our youth not to withdraw from the world? How would leaving the EU be doing that? Leaving the EU will free us to do more trade with the rest of the world and if we lose trade with the EU (as they like to tell us) we'll have to make it up from elsewhere around the globe. I'd say that'd make us even more inclined to embrace the world, outside of Europe. Why would leaving the EU mean withdrawing from Europe? Does he think we'll stop going on holiday there or buying stuff from there? :confused: Or is it just more scaremongering?

Damien 23-04-2016 18:14

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35833873)

I even expect a small move to Leave in the polls coming up. People are going to be annoyed and rebellious but it's designed to play ok the voters minds when they vote. There was a boost to Yes after Osbourne said there wouldn't be a currency union but in the end it hurt the Yes campaign as the question dogged them throughout that campaign.

Big Brian 24-04-2016 08:36

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35833925)
I even expect a small move to Leave in the polls coming up. People are going to be annoyed and rebellious but it's designed to play ok the voters minds when they vote. There was a boost to Yes after Osbourne said there wouldn't be a currency union but in the end it hurt the Yes campaign as the question dogged them throughout that campaign.

I wish I had your faith. I think he's killed the debate and made it much harder for us to win. It's nothing that can't be overcome. Leave now have to tell the people that this doesn't mean the USA wont trade with us or that any existing trade agreements will cease on June 24th, that any private trade agreements with the USA will still stand and that he was referring to future trade agreements. It will take 5-10 years to negotiate trade deals but this does not mean the present deals stop. It will take 5-10 years to untangle ourselves from the EU which means we will still be part of any trade agreements. Obama denies any scaremongering but that is exactly what it is when you break it down like this.

papa smurf 24-04-2016 09:03

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EUROPEAN EMPIRE: Powerless Britain to become mere COLONY if we don't quit Brussels

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/663...overnor-Brexit

Big Brian 24-04-2016 10:07

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Marine Le Pen to be shunned by politicians as she comes to Britain to join campaign for leaving the EU

21/04/16 12:23

Aides said the French National Front (FN) chief was 'bound' to come to the UK ahead of the crucial referendum on June 23. The planned intervention has infuriated senior figures in the Brexit campaign, who worry that links to politicians seen as extreme could scare voters. A spokesman for the official Vote Leave campaign said: 'We will not be welcoming Marine Le Pen to the UK.' ...read


On another note: Andrew Marr talking to Theresa May today. Didn't he do a good job on her? It sounds to me by the way he talks he's an Outer.

techguyone 24-04-2016 10:11

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Obama just wants to make sure we don't screw up his TTIP plans, and it's not like we didn't have trading agreements with the US pre EU is it.


This is TTIP for those unaware.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...u-9779688.html

papa smurf 24-04-2016 10:18

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35833981)
Obama just wants to make sure we don't screw up his TTIP plans, and it's not like we didn't have trading agreements with the US pre EU is it.


This is TTIP for those unaware.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...u-9779688.html

sounds like the USA want to colonise us .

Big Brian 24-04-2016 11:19

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35833986)
sounds like the USA want to colonise us .

They have always wanted that. A bit of revenge from when we ruled them.

---------- Post added at 11:19 ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 ----------

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35833981)
Obama just wants to make sure we don't screw up his TTIP plans, and it's not like we didn't have trading agreements with the US pre EU is it.


This is TTIP for those unaware.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...u-9779688.html

That is pretty scary stuff. Better to get the hell out of Dodge methinks!


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