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Man Yoo always get the cheap crappy teams :( every year so "Alex" doesn't blow his top.......

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here's the link to the result

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/3600392.stm

liverpool don't have a great draw nor to Celtic all looks ok for Man U , Arsenal and Chelsea

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Chelsea v Porto will be interesting and Larsson's Barca against Celtic should be good as well

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That wasn't a bad guess.

How do you think Arsenal will do ?

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arsenal will do same as every year.......struggle because they must have the worst home record in europe of any english team over the last 20 years.

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Pah!

You may have a short memory but before we used to be accussed by being really good at home and bad away in europe and its flipped around now.

We, for once, didnt get the hardest group but united got a nice one again. Also I dont want to guess how arsenal will do as its football and a cup so it is hard to guess

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:) I thought Chelsea and Porto would come out - funny how these coincidences happen. Should have backed it with folding money.

Back on Planet Factoid, Arsenal's home record in Europe's been quite good lately - not brilliant, but not the worst ever.

93/94 -
P 4 W 3 D 1

94/95 -
P 4 W 2 D 1

95/96
P 0

96/97
P 1 L 1

97/98
P 1 D 1

98/99 (Wembley)
P 3 W 1 D 1 L 1

99/00
P 3 W 1 L 2 (Wembley)
P 4 W 4 (Highbury)

00/01
P 7 W 5 D 2

01/02
P 6 W 5 L 1

02/03
P 6 W 1 D 4 L 1

03/04
P 5 W 3 L 2

Total
P 44 W 25 D 10 L 9

Pretty respectable I'd say, considering there are three final appearances in there (ok, only one trophy, but still). The CL campaigns of 00/01 and 01/02 are records to be proud of.

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Seriously, when was the last time Arse won anything in europe?

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so what? doesnt take any talent away from the players they are still as good as they are. Winning in europe doesnt increase or discrease your skill

Arsenal play great football and thats what the game is about, not spending 20/30 million on players whenever you are not doing well

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Erm...it was a serious question.....

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We have not won the champions league

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1994 I believe, the Cup Winners Cup

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We've got to five finals:

69/70 Fairs Cup - Won
79/80 Cup Winner's Cup - Lost on penalties
93/94 Cup Winner's Cup - Won
94/95 Cup Winner's Cup - Lost in the last bloody minute to that bloody Nayim
99/00 UEFA Cup - Lost on penalties

Annoyingly, we've kept three clean sheets in that lot.

I believe Man Utd have 4 wins out of 4 final appearances, but I could be wrong. Rather dwarfed by Liverpool's 7 wins in 9 appearances.

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we won the European Cup in 68 and 99 and the Cup Winners Cup in 91.

For a top club in Europe that's not that great to be honest. I don't think we made any more finals other than that.

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3 out of 3 then - I think I double-counted 68.

Spurs have also won three European trophies, incidentally.

Anyone care to list all the British clubs that have made it to European finals? I'll start you off with:

Arsenal
Manchester United
Liverpool
Spurs

There are *lots* more, some very surprising.