Cable Forum - Unstoppable migration?

Arthur, try thinking...

Unless we have a picket line of boats a couple of thousand miles long undertaking visual checks (with enough crew on board to cover multiple shifts), it is impossible to cover all of our coast line against incursions of small rigid inflatable boats - they don't show up on radar.

Hugh: perhaps we've found another use for our Vanguard-class submarines? :D

Hugh	31-05-2016 13:47

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Nuke them all from orbit - just to be sure....

Osem	31-05-2016 14:14

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35840325)

The Turkish President has just told Turkish women not to use birth control (after earlier saying they should all have at least 3 children). Maybe he's worried they won't be enough left for him to govern once they get EU membership?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36413097

No, he's doing us a favour, creating a production line of young, fit, net contributing migrants to come to ageing Europe to keep us in the style to which we've become accustomed and when they've done all that, go back home to Turkey so as not to create a drain on the NHS and an even larger population of old folks here which simply causes the cycle to repeat and get worse. No, I really don't see any down side at all... :rolleyes:

Just how long does anyone think Turkey's going to be stalled by the EU before the inevitable decision to admit them is made? Despite what Cameron, and others, like to pretend, if we remain in the EU, they will find 'irrefutable' reasons and create the required mechanisms through which to ensure they are allowed to join. Of course when that happens my satisfaction at being proved right will be nullified by the subsequent ramifications but hey ho...

Taf	31-05-2016 16:30

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A camp for migrants is to be set up in the north of Paris within the next six weeks, the mayor of the French capital has announced.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36420111

Osem	31-05-2016 19:49

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35840404)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36420111

I might be wrong but I'd wager that it won't be too close to many of the rich and powerful who like to preach about compassion etc. on behalf of everyone else...

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Police in Greece and the Czech Republic have arrested more than 20 people suspected of forging travel documents for migrants trying to enter Europe.

European police agency Europol said visas and passports were sold for up to £2,500 ($3,600) and sent across the EU, Africa, the Middle East and Asia.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36416034

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Both groups forged passports, national ID cards, Schengen visas, driving licences, asylum seekers' registration cards and residence permits, police said.

Tip of the iceberg...

Arthurgray50@blu

31-05-2016 21:34

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http://news.sky.com/story/1704737/bo...cks-new-powers

I have been saying this for weeks. With all the cuts, with this idiotic and pathetic Government, are making.

And please don't so say WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET FUNDNG FROM.

This is what is happening.

If you don't believe me, read this.

We need more resources to tackle this. If migrants can get into the UK. Then so can Terrorists. We are sitting ducks.

:(

Ramrod

01-06-2016 11:57

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‘Like Cologne’: At Least 18 ‘Very Young Women’ Sexually Assaulted At Music Festival

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...-men-arrested/

:(

Osem	01-06-2016 17:52

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I dare say there are still those who'll deny the problems exists. To do anything else destroys the argument they used when people dared to raise concerns about the inevitable consequences of masses of culturally different, single, unemployed, sexually frustrated, young men being let on the loose in the liberal west where women dare to show their feminine shapes and even their flesh. On an individual level these men probably wouldn't even think of it or dare do it but in such large numbers they feel strong and the pack mentality kicks in just as it does with groups of football hooligans.

TheDaddy

01-06-2016 20:06

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35840519)

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...-men-arrested/

:(

26 now...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...acks/85237492/

Ramrod

01-06-2016 20:45

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35840564)

I dare say there are still those who'll deny the problems exists.

Yep. I was 'discussing' the EU and it's problems on facebook and mentioned the Swedish rape epidemic. I got a reply from someone about that which said:

"migrants aren't committing rape more than any other group in Sweden or anywhere else, it's all a neo nazi propaganda plot"

They walk among us......:shocked::erm::dozey::dunce:

TheDaddy

02-06-2016 08:24

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I think the thread title is misleading, immigration isn't unstoppable if you're a decent, hard working benefit to society we will have you out of the country in a flash. It's only the **** and detritus of the world we want and will fight to keep with cash and free houses

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-expelled.html

Osem	02-06-2016 11:10

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I notice that, in his latest speech, Corbyn's now acknowledging that mass migration has caused serious pressures on services etc. and that those who raise concerns about the fact aren't racists or xenophobes. It'd be nice to believe that he means it but all too often these people only ever seem to acknowledge stuff like that when they're up against a wall and need votes. Once they've got their way at voting time it's back to the same old denial and accusations of bigotry...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ain-separately

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I’ve already talked about how some industries are affected by the undercutting of wages and the action that can be taken to tackle that. But some communities can change dramatically and rapidly and that can be disconcerting for some people. That doesn’t make them Little Englanders, xenophobes or racists. More people living in an area can put real pressure on local services like GPs surgeries, schools and housing.

Tell that to Pat Glass and Gordon Brown amongst others eh?...

papa smurf

05-06-2016 09:02

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Fishermen Offered Cash To Smuggle Migrants

http://news.sky.com/story/1707047/fi...uggle-migrants

Ramrod

13-06-2016 22:22

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oooh, look:

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Cologne Six Months On: Government Admits Sex Attackers WERE ‘Refugees’
One of those who spoke out most vigorously was Cologne’s staunchly pro-immigration mayor Henriette Reker, who denied there was any link whatsoever between the attacks and migrants. Even in January, this was contradicted by Cologne’s police.

Yet today German regional newspaper the Rheinische Post reports the eyewitness accounts were “largely consistent with the recent results of the investigations”.

The new statistics and facts confirm not only that the majority of men committing the assaults were not of “German origin”, but that most of them had been in the country less than twelve months. Despite their recent arrival to Germany, a remarkable two-thirds had already received the attention of the police for criminal behaviour.

Amazing. Who'd have thought it? :rolleyes:
link

Osem	13-06-2016 22:31

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35842919)

oooh, look:Amazing. Who'd have thought it? :rolleyes:
link

Quite. These people really don't do themselves or their cause any good by denying that this is happening in spite of the obvious and this is great cause for concern. IMHO refuge offered ought to be treated with respect and those who're neither willing or able to do so should lose their right to that refuge. There are plenty of decent people who would give anything to build a life in Europe and would make a decent contribution. I'd far rather help such people than those who'd abuse their hosts in the most awful of ways. Until we get tough on such people, there will only be more of this behaviour.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35841122)

Fishermen Offered Cash To Smuggle Migrants

http://news.sky.com/story/1707047/fi...uggle-migrants

Has the EU set a quota I wonder?...

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