Cable Forum - General Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.

Thinking about these channels testing, if they were just shopping channels or +1's etc because we usually know what channels are coming quite a bit before they do unless ofcause it's a very very big channel

Agreed. Shopping channels tend to be known about in advance. Big channels are not announced until their arrival is absolutely certain.

vincerooney

26-07-2013 12:30

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I don't know what I'll do over the weekend without my regular hourly visits to check if media boy has posted or there's been any announcements.

Shame no one can see what the testing channels are...didnt it used to be a lot easier to spy onto those things then it was analogue?

Doug P

26-07-2013 12:35

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Originally Posted by nicknewark (Post 35599392)

why does it always seem that Virgin are trailing behind, they need to bring something good out of the bag soon!.

Sorry Nick that is simply not true. VM have made huge strides this year in channels and are in a much stronger position than they were. The BT farce (sorry the whole thing from the bidding for the rights to the selling of the channels is a total farce) is a problem but as others have pointed out it is BT's loss if they do not let the channels onto cable. The pathetic new bb customer figure of 23k means VM may be in a position to do a deal.;)

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35599393)

I agree with MB & Nialli on his blog: http://vmhd.blogspot.co.uk/

Yes John I am hopeful too. I agree also with those who say VM will have goofed badly if it turns out that there will be neither BT Sport nor Sky Atlantic as the talks must be close on both or have been agreed. If one collapses it is credible but not both.

greeninferno

26-07-2013 12:47

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Just curious.

What would people rather see?

BT included in XL as ESPN was OR BT Sports available as a stand alone at the extra price but with Atlantic , History , Universal etc. added to replace ESPN in the XL TV pack.

Jameseh

26-07-2013 12:49

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Why on earth would BT Sports be included in XL, it's entire existence is based around people moving to BT BB to get it free

They're not going to let you watch it without BT BB without paying £12/£15.

Good lord.

vincerooney

26-07-2013 12:52

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35599418)

Passionate!

Possibly true too but if you're wrong good sir it truly will be clobbering time for you on the forum!

green inferno- definitely BT sports in XL. Sky Atlantic is something i'd like but there also seems to be a lot of filler.

Depends on individual tastes tho.

Dave42

26-07-2013 12:55

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35599418)

you got to remember bt want to bill customers themselves sky have accepted that VM wont do that so theres a good chance it be in XL

nstokes

26-07-2013 12:58

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35599428)

you got to remember bt want to bill customers themselves sky have accepted that VM wont do that so theres a good chance it be in XL

People say this but BoxNation charges customers and not VM is that correct?

Dave42

26-07-2013 13:00

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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35599433)

People say this but BoxNation charges customers and not VM is that correct?

don't know mate never had boxnation chad would know sure he had it when he was with VM

coulsontom

26-07-2013 13:04

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Originally Posted by Harryn9000 (Post 35599048)

i honestly think it done and dusted but like bomber said there an embargo till 31st let bt sell and most of bt tv ads say offer end 31st july we find out in a week

that's for free hd. nothing to do with virgin

Jameseh

26-07-2013 13:11

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35599428)

you got to remember bt want to bill customers themselves sky have accepted that VM wont do that so theres a good chance it be in XL

So BT want to sell the channel themselves but they can't because cable doesn't work like that, so they're going to put it on XL? Where the hell is the logic in that?

They want broadband customers or money, being in XL gets them none of the first and very little of the second.

Dave42

26-07-2013 13:13

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35599446)

So BT want to sell the channel themselves but they can't because cable doesn't work like that, so they're going to put it on XL?

Where the hell is the logic in that? BT want broadband customers or money, being in XL gets them none of the first and very little of the second.

being in XL BT get a wholesale price from VM and lot more in tv advertising revenue too don't think BT shareholders will be happy spending all that money on football for no return as take up not been that great so far has it

Harryn9000

26-07-2013 13:14

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Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35599438)

that's for free hd. nothing to do with virgin

well it exactly what bomber said we will see on 1st of august

dazed&confused

26-07-2013 13:15

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I for one would be happy to see BT sports as an optional add on.
People would then be free to evaluate the content, and decide if the additional cost is value for money or not.

I love sports and enjoy Sky sports, but would check the content before committing to any additional cost for BT.

Sky Atlantic could be included in VIP collection, using the savings made from ESPN.

Another possibility is that Virgin could offer both BT and VA free for the first year, provided that a new contract is signed. Thus protecting revenue against any additional costs.

Jameseh

26-07-2013 13:18

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35599447)

being in XL BT get a wholesale price from VM

Right, I think ESPN got about 30p or something per XL customer. Virgin has about 4 million customers so let's assume 30% have XL.

That would get them £360,000 a month, the same as 30,000 customers at £12 a month (or 24,000 HD customers at £15).

Somehow I can imagine there will be a lot more people than 30,000 wanting BT Sport on Virgin.

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