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I'm still awaiting for her wig to blow off.

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36199436)

I'm still awaiting for her wig to blow off.

The polite term is syrup ;)

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Abbott possibly calculated this so that she could attach to Corbyn's party.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199443)

Abbott possibly calculated this so that she could attach to Corbyn's party.

Do you really think she is that bright ? I dont.

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36199448)

Do you really think she is that bright ? I dont.

She might be brighter than you think.

The point she was making was that racism has more than one angle. Your skin colour, she says (or at least means), has different motivation from slagging off Muslims or Jews. She actually has a point.

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Abbott’s on the loony left, but she is consistently on the loony left and she never says or does anything that’s absolutely consistent with that. Nobody should be surprised at her saying this sort of stuff.

The Labour leadership suddenly getting so intolerant of its long-term, long-tolerated loony fringe is, however, surprising.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36199449)

The point she was making was that racism has more than one angle. Your skin colour, she says (or at least means), has different motivation from slagging off Muslims or Jews. She actually has a point.
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It's not what she originally said.

https://www.theguardian.com/theobser...or-men-letters

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Tomiwa Owolade claims that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people all suffer from “racism” (“Racism in Britain is not a black and white issue. It’s far more complicated”, Comment). They undoubtedly experience prejudice. This is similar to racism and the two words are often used as if they are interchangeable.

It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism. In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.

She didn't say they experienced racism differently. She said they don't face racism but instead face prejudice. Compared it to having red hair and said they haven't faced the kind of structural racism that existed in South Africa and pre-civil rights America, as if there isn't a big example of that being untrue in recent history.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36199463)

It's not what she originally said.

https://www.theguardian.com/theobser...or-men-letters

She didn't say they experienced racism differently. She said they don't face racism but instead face prejudice. Compared it to having red hair and said they haven't faced the kind of structural racism that existed in South Africa and pre-civil rights America, as if there isn't a big example of that being untrue in recent history.

That's what undermines her stance.

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What a state Starmer was today, Trump just blasting holes in all Labour’s policies, Net Zero, Inheritance tax, immigration, tax , censorship…everything. And he just sat there and took it, not even able to defend his own convictions.

Pathetic, oh he tried to stand up for Khan, but that looked weak too.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36200051)

This Conservative commentator thinks differently.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...has-won-trump/

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Deftly handled, Trump drowned out by bag pipes and Starmer making all the running. Words I never thought I would say but can't argue with the facts.

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Starmer's squirming was a joy to behold on TV. Trouble is, his plan is to sit it all out and then carry on with reducing the UK to fully broke/busted status.

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Got to have a good relationship with the US President, however horrible they are unfortunately. Better that than getting hit with his wrath on tariffs. Starmer being uncomfortable isn't the worse thing compared to that.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36200058)

Starmer's squirming was a joy to behold on TV. Trouble is, his plan is to sit it all out and then carry on with reducing the UK to fully broke/busted status.

Starmer's handling of Trump is a rare area of success for him. It's closer to home where he needs to improve.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36200061)

Starmer's handling of Trump is a rare area of success for him. It's closer to home where he needs to improve.

Yes of course, that’s why all of Labour’s socials are espousing what such a success the press conference was for him.