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mrmistoffelees 15-12-2024 19:08

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36187762)
Hmmm, who would want to live there ? Doesnt seem like it would be very safe.

I think that article says there’s about thirty settlements with 20k settlers in total already

tweetiepooh 16-12-2024 09:47

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Israel needs to step carefully here. They took the Golan because their enemies were using it as a high ground to shell Israel. Taking them for protection and some settlement on them would likely be OK but to settle further at a time when they need to keep allies for their attacks on terror groups must really be justified.

papa smurf 16-12-2024 09:51

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36187776)
Israel needs to step carefully here. They took the Golan because their enemies were using it as a high ground to shell Israel. Taking them for protection and some settlement on them would likely be OK but to settle further at a time when they need to keep allies for their attacks on terror groups must really be justified.

They might as well rename it as target heights

tweetiepooh 16-12-2024 10:01

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36187777)
They might as well rename it as target heights

But they are high. Prior to 67 sniper positions on the Heights were used to shoot into Israel. Israel at the time was very unlikely to snipe into surrounding nations. The current government is somewhat more hawkish but I doubt even they would order.

mrmistoffelees 16-12-2024 10:04

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36187776)
Israel needs to step carefully here. They took the Golan because their enemies were using it as a high ground to shell Israel. Taking them for protection and some settlement on them would likely be OK but to settle further at a time when they need to keep allies for their attacks on terror groups must really be justified.


Israel have stated that due to the Syrian regime collapse that the agreement in place is now null and void. And wouldn’t you know it off they go.

I’d really like to see anyone try to justify this.


Israel appear to believe they can act with impunity because they know the US and other nations will back them up due to their sense of guilt. And if you don’t agree with their agenda then you’re anti Israeli

They’re acting like a political shithouse

1andrew1 16-12-2024 10:19

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36187781)
They’re acting like a political shithouse

Looks like plain and simple opportunism - grab some of your neighbour's land when they're laid up in bed and can't do anything about it. I guess the argument goes that the bigger Israel is, the safer it is.

mrmistoffelees 16-12-2024 10:48

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36187784)
Looks like plain and simple opportunism - grab some of your neighbour's land when they're laid up in bed and can't do anything about it. I guess the argument goes that the bigger Israel is, the safer it is.

I’m not sure that argument holds much weight considering the unequivocal support it has from for example the US.

If it were any other nation in the region doing the same there would be hell on, if Israel didn’t have said backing it wouldn’t dare do it.

They’re like the kid that goes and hits another kid because they know they’ve got a bigger kid who will stand up for them no what they do.

papa smurf 16-12-2024 11:29

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36187780)
But they are high. Prior to 67 sniper positions on the Heights were used to shoot into Israel. Israel at the time was very unlikely to snipe into surrounding nations. The current government is somewhat more hawkish but I doubt even they would order.

I meant the heights would become a target if they get covered in settlements

Pierre 16-12-2024 13:54

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36187784)
Looks like plain and simple opportunism .

Prudence, until they know what this Jihadi led militia's intentions are.

TheDaddy 16-12-2024 16:00

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36187795)
Prudence, until they know what this Jihadi led militia's intentions are.

Even when they do know, they are not giving it back hence the political shithouse comment earlier

Pierre 16-12-2024 17:48

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36187799)
Even when they do know, they are not giving it back hence the political shithouse comment earlier

Abu Mohammed al-Golani. (I’ve seen it spelled Jawlani & Jolani) but it is Golani.

Means the “from Golan”, his father was from there.

It’s not his real name, so he has changed it as a statement

One might think he would like to return to Golan………………..

ianch99 31-12-2024 09:26

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Good to hear:

Pope calls Gaza airstrikes 'cruelty' after Israeli minister's criticism

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Pope Francis on Saturday again condemned Israeli airstrikes in Gaza, a day after an Israeli government minister publicly denounced the pontiff for suggesting the global community should study whether the military offensive there constitutes a genocide of the Palestinian people.

Francis opened his annual Christmas address to the Catholic cardinals who lead the Vatican's various departments with what appeared to be a reference to Israeli airstrikes on Friday that killed at least 25 Palestinians in Gaza.

"Yesterday, children were bombed," said the pope. "This is cruelty. This is not war. I wanted to say this because it touches the heart."
The pope, as leader of the 1.4-billion-member Roman Catholic Church, is usually careful about taking sides in conflicts, but he has recently been more outspoken about Israel's military campaign against Palestinian militant group Hamas.
In book excerpts published last month, the pontiff said some international experts said that "what is happening in Gaza has the characteristics of a genocide".

Paul 31-12-2024 12:50

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The Israeli government denounces anyone who disagrees with them, I dont think anyone pays much attention to their moaning now.
However, I think the reverse is also true, aside from the denouncing, they (Israel) dont really pay much attention to people who criticize them.

thenry 07-01-2025 17:12

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"all hell will break loose in the middle east"

If the hostages aren't returned by the time Trump takes office. Assertive by President Trump.

1andrew1 07-01-2025 17:26

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36188855)
"all hell will break loose in the middle east"

If the hostages aren't returned by the time Trump takes office. Assertive by President Trump.

A bit late - I think it already has.


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