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Football?

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No this was a rugby international - part of the Autumn Cup

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Ah, ok, thx.

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Further to my observations re the Amazon Prime coverage of the Autumn Cup Rugby - my wife has just sat down to watch the second half of the England v Georgia game - the first thing she said was the picture quality was poor and we should complain if we are paying for it.

Thing is she doesn't normally notice the difference between SD and HD pictures.

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Premier Sports has a commercial streaming partner

https://www.screach.com/streaming.html

I found this quite interesting as I wasn't aware bars could offer Premier Sports in this way

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According to this Wiki page Amazon Prime have the streaming rights to the French Ligue1 as of next year. Apparently for all games. Can't find anymore info on this anywhere.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spor...ive%20on%20S4C.

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BBC to show live Copa Libertadores matches.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55266129

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Sky and Amazon have buried the hatchet with Prime app added to SkyQ boxes today, Amazon will get access to NowTV.

Article in Telegraph also suggests that the EPL hopes of Amazon and Sky fighting it out for packages in the next rights auction are a lot lower than they were.

Will the EPL now look to launch their own streaming service - they might show all the games not included in the packages and collect money from fans who want to watch their clubs?

If so they will have to price it accordingly - having found £14.99 per game was vilified Right Left and Centre.

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i'd imagine the streaming app would show games not live? Don't sky currently have the rights to show not live full matches?

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Ligue 1 clubs stare into financial abyss after huge TV deal collapses.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...apses-mediapro

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Prior to Covid Sky had the rights to show a full re-run of the 'match of the day' at 8.30pm Saturdays, followed by 30 min highlights of other games.

This hasn't happened since covid.

It is possible any EPL streaming could be live or delayed if it happens at all

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Article in today's Telegraph states BT have bid slightly less than they currently pay when the contract expires in June. As this hasn't been accepted it states they are likely to walk away from Premier Rugby Coverage and spend up to £40m on other sports such as Cricket.

Not sure if that means £40m was their bit for rugby or not, but the article also states CVC are trying to extract an increase on the current terms despite the covid situation.

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Well poor picture quality again on the live game Wolves Chelsea on Amazon Prime. I'm guessing it's only live action where the problem is because watched film and Picard with very good picture quality. If the streamers want to be serious about selling us live sports events then something has to be sorted regarding this issue. Would love to know if anyone who has mega fast fibre broadband have the same problems?

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We don't have mega fast broadband but we have decent fibre broadband and like you l can report the picture quality was poor again in the first half at times.

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Thanks. What I'm trying to establish is whether it's my poor broadband or a issue with live events being streamed,and from what you say it's the latter rather than my broadband.

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Have you tried watching the game on a different device or just through the Virgin box?

I found on my Fire Stick that changing the output resolution in settings to 50Hz instead of Automatic fixed the poor juddery picture.

Not sure if the Virgin box has any similar settings (There's a setting on Sky Q boxes called Judder which also fixes the issue).

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l would definitely say it was the latter.

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Yeah watched on my Samsung smart TV app and on Sky Q box but both the same. Wasn't aware of this judder thing and not sure what I need to do whilst remaining in the app?

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Yeah my thought too. Simple answer is keep sport on linear channels.

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On Sky Q, press home, go to Settings, Setup and Audio Visual. Scroll to the bottom and make sure "Judder reduction for TV apps" is OFF.

Judder reduction, when switched on, changes the Sky Q output to 60Hz when opening a US originated app (Netflix, Amazon Prime etc) which matches the contents original frames per second and avoids judder.

European live sport is originally broadcast at 50Hz so this option is counter productive and switching it off will keep the output at 50Hz which will ensure a smoother picture.

I totally agree, as well as picture quality issues streamed sport also introduces a delay. This can be as much as 40 seconds to a minute behind "live" which opens up further issues including score notifications on other apps/sources such as Sky Sports News displaying updates before you see it take place and also issues with in play betting.

Until these issues can be rectified then, in my opinion, streamed live sport is really a non-starter.

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I watched first half on firestick and second on the built in tv app and both were very poor, the firestick being worst. Then I watched the Man City game on the firestick and the picture was superb, proper UHD.

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I always watch the games on the fire stick. You're right, the City game was top quality. I actually prefer the Amazon picture to the 'normal' SS1 or BT. The colours seem a lot more vibrant on my TV

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Sound more like your TV itself has a different picture setting for each input.

Although there’s a difference in frame rate and resolution between broadcasts on Sky and an Amazon stick, I’ve never seen a difference with colour vibrancy or contrast.

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English Premier League on the back foot as live tv rights auction nears.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...-auction-nears

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I heard Amazon were after the Ashes series next winter, probably more affordable for them.

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Sounds like it will be the same outcome as the previous auction unless someone springs a surprise (YouTube)

Personally I think they should make all 380 games available

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l fully expect Sky and BT to pick up the main packages of football matches again with Amazon picking up their usual bargain basement package again.

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Oh i dunno, Channel 5 could surprise us all ;)

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Have you been watching those pink elephants go flying by again..;)

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Thanks for posting, no real surprises there.

The only possible rights competition I can see is for Amazon's rights, BT's and Sky's are at a different price point. Someone like Eurosport or DAZN may think that Amazon got a bargain and decide to give it a go themselves.

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Not sure it is the expense - Amazon policy is not to get involved in long-term rights.

By that I mean things spread over a season - hence they like the concentrated hit of their 2 rounds of EPL matches (timed to entice new Prime members around Black Friday and Xmas).

I think it is highly possible the Ashes may be on a streamer of some nature as it will generate a lot of subscriptions.

However, where streamers lose out is many people just subscribe for a month or two, watch a particular thing then cancel.

I did exactly this with Prime - took month free trial for the Autumn Rugby internationals kept it for an extra month for the football over Xmas then cancelled. Since, cancelling I have received numerous emails from Amazon extolling the virtues of Prime that I will be missing.

Interestingly, this hasn't as yet extended itself to a discounted offer.

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Channel 5, back in the day, used to regularly pick up random International and European football matches. They did well for them as I recall. Not really any different them trying something similar again when likes of BBC are picking up random English Premier matches.

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Not entirely the case - they have picked up a Champions league package in both Italy and Germany... granted it’s only one package but each one is a 16 game package and gives them a top pick on a particular night so I don’t think they have an issue with something that lasts a season rather than considering if it adds value to a Prime membership and generate more year long subs... the current package may give them a seasonal bump but I’d bet they’d rather lock in a year... I can easily see them maybe upping the stakes and making a play for something regular like one of the Saturday or weekday rounds but maybe not much more than that.

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Your CL rights are exactly what I said - a concentrated coverage for a short period.

They have already stated that they are not interested in the sort of EPL packages you suggest as it means covering through the season for only 1 game a week which most people would not bother subscribing for - they want maximum impact for their money.

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I would respectfully disagree.

The 16 game deals they have acquired are not really short bursts - the deals are for one match each round covering the group and knockout stages over what, 7 months or so? Not really a short burst or something played over a couple of weekends but having a first pick game featuring an Italian or german team? That's an attractive benefit to add value to a Prime membership.

And in regards to the EPL, I still believe they will be targeted in their ambition and may well want to stick to their 20 games but IF they did make a play for a weekly game? I don't see anything but upsides - being able to offer a game each round in a Prime membership? How does that not enhance value when persuading someone to sub for a year rather than pay £7.99 for a month?

I have pasted this article here before but it's a really informative interview and gives you a good idea of what Amazon takes into account when in the sports rights market but again it does emphasise that they are looking at what enhances value in a Prime membership - and state it's not a one size fits all approach.

I just don't think it's outside of the realm of impossibility.

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To be honest it wouldn't entice me to a yearly sub. I might be persuaded to sub for a month if they had an attractive game or two that month but overall I'm more than happy with what Sky and BT are offering. I don't think many fans would be prepared to sub to yet another provider for sport long term.

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Same here, minus the extra month. Cancelled mine within an hour of the ANC final finishing.

I get the reasons why (regular autumn games impossible due Covid etc), but the whole tournament had a slight "tin-pot 6-Nations plus" feel about it IMO - and I wasn't overly impressed with the streaming coverage either.

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Thanks for clarifying the CL rights abroad.

I think the reason they don't like the idea of a package offering 1 game a week is a lot of people will say 'ok there are enough games on without paying extra for the Prime game'

As I said they have been quoted some time ago that is their approach - a double bluff - possibly.

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I quite agree with quality of coverage.

I kept it for an extra month - 20 games of EPL for £7.99 worked for me.

Wouldn't pay £7.99pm over the season if Prime took one of the main packages.

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Exactly my thoughts

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The biggest series, Ashes apart, starts on Friday and the U.K. tV rights are still not sorted out.

Apparently it is between Channel 4, Sky and BT.

The rights are apparently going for only £20m but even then BBC cannot be bothered or cannot afford to bid.

Currently, it seems Channel 4 are the only ones to have put an actual bid in.

Absolutely ridiculous all round.

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The latest reports say that C4 are in pole position and that Sky are more interested in snapping up the next Ashes series in Australia.

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I assume you're talking about the india vs england test series? starts at a decent time too over here of about 4pm in the afternoon so i'd have thought it would be a bit more attractive.

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I thought it started about 4am and finished about midday?

EDIT

I thought wrong

A lot more attractive than the Aussie ashes that it seems Sky are waiting for

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3 of the 4 tests start at 4am, the 3rd test is a pink ball day-nighter which would start late morning?

My main point is the rights still haven't been decided and it starts Friday!

Hotstar are looking for £20m (rights include ODI and T20 matches) - only Channel4 have actually bid, but as I understand it their bid is supignificantly lower.

Absolutely unbelievable that BBC have shown no interest.

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No you are correct. The only cricket that start late afternoon are matches in the West Indies

Ashes series always attract a lot more interest.

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Channel 4 wins rights for England's Test cricket tour of India.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-tour-of-india

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French football TV auction rights crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...rice-ligue-1-2

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Shows that they’re in there trying to get scraps but no rush to pay top dollar.

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Exactly and this confirms it.

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What it shows is that the LFP was asking too much for the rights. I would have thought that the upshot of this would be good for the punters.

I’m not sure how you are taking this, Den, but note that there were no bids from any of the TV channels. An interesting situation has arisen here.

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l suspect the three bidders – Amazon, Discovery and DAZN were hoping they could pick it up at bargain basement prices.

They cannot even do that..

Sky and BT already that their coals in other fires OB.

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Yes, what's interesting is the lack of bids from the two market leaders Canal Sat and BeInSport. Looks like they're playing this one cool.

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I just wonder what the interest outside of France is for watching their league games, it won't be anywhere near the interest shown in the EPL imo.

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The rights are for the French market aren't they ?

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Not really sure tbh, wouldn't whoever got the rights be able to show the games outside of France?

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Or maybe they are attempting to drive down prices. Such a move is well overdue.

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Same as the English Premier League, they're sold on a per-country basis and the rights outside France are already held by other broadcasters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...1_broadcasters

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I'd imagine the qataris are having a go about it "they're offering what....no....ask for more money".

I think they thought owning Paris SG would make the french league like the premier league with billions of pounds being injected. Unfortunately all the qataris have done with the french league is stamped out nearly all competition. Why would people want to watch that? Even the french couldnt be arsed watching Paris win over and over again.

Similar to Serie A with Juventus dominating due to the sheer fact theyve moved away from the daft dual owned stadium or owned by the city concept and were earning big money from home games before the pandemic whilst Ac/Inter/Roma and Lazio clung onto their rotting stadiums where they barely get any money out for "nostalgia" reasons.

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True, although I did note they have not got exclusive rights leaving the opportunity for Sky/BT to get in on the act cheaply.

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It’s an interesting situation indeed, but if the streamers aren’t willing to match the previous bids from TV channels, or reserve valuations, as seemingly has happened here and in the last EPL rights auction in the UK. The question becomes when do they enter the market? How much do the need the valuations to fall by?

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Considerably I would guess.

If that is the case, I would expect EPL to set up there own streams and allow things like season tickets to all matches of a customer selected
Team.

Also possibly being able to PPV any single matches.

If that happens, being able to watch 4 or 5 games a round might become very expensive when compared to the current situation. (Based on the recent £14.99 per game offering)

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BT buys cricket rights for West Indies and New Zealand.


https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...eid=3598503789

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They already had rights to N Zealand cricket, (and Big Bash T20 in Australia) but capturing WI cricket from Sky is a plus for BT.

Does this point to BT becoming the place for cricket (I.e. Will they add the Ashes and IPL as well) or does this indicate they are facing the likelihood that Sky will retain the Ashes?

One thing for certain is Sky will retain the rights to England home internationals (possibly with 1 test a year on free to air TV?) - ECB couldn't afford for them to go anywhere else.

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l think Sky are to determined to snap up the Ashes TV rights home and away in my opinion.

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Yes, I reckon they're both keen to keep enough cricket rights in order to keep cricket fans subscribing to each service.

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Exactly Andrew.



In other unrelated news French football has finally put a end to its TV rights impasse.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2021...ench-football/

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French are a mess when it comes to TV rights - trying to find out who has UK rights to Top14 rugby, impossible to ascertain.

Can anyone help?

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I don't think any of the main UK sporst channels has the rights to it yet. It's not on the websites of Sky Sports, BT Sport or Premier Sports.

On the Top 14 website, it lists a handful of international broadcasters but no one is listed for the UK although TV5 Monde seems to have global coverage and will "Broadcast the show "Jour de Rugby" each weekend and broadcast 10 matches: the last 5 days of the championship and the entire final phase"
https://www.top14-rugby.com/en-US/wa...v-broadcasters

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Thanks for the reply, more or less confirms my findings.

Not available in UK - personally, I miss watching the odd games that used to be broadcast.

I presume it was a case of Top14 wanting more for the rights than the broadcasters thought they were worth - thought sky would have been interested as they have no northern hemisphere rugby rights at all.

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I suspect they might come to some last-minute deal here. But it's just not the UK their coverage seems lacking in - no deals in rugby countries like Italy, Australia, South Africa, Romania and dare I say it, Japan.

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Yes - rights have returned to the French equivalent of Sky (Canal+). Though I think there's more drama off the pitch than on it when it comes to French football!

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So the big streamers couldn't make the reserve price but Canal+ happy to step in once the middle man is cut out?

Interesting. France has a well developed pay-tv market, a reasonable market size (67 million people) yet none of the plucky upstarts can win the rights.

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Indeed - Sky used to have these, but didn't renew about 3ish seasons ago.

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Amazon has clinched the rights to La Liga matches this season.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2021...ideo-channels/

LaLigaTV has launched on Amazon Prime Video in a major expansion for the Spanish football network.

Starting this coming weekend, Prime members in the UK will be able to add-on the channel for an additional cost of £6.99 per month in a distribution agreement which lasts until the end of the current season.

The deal marks the first time that Prime Video Channels will show live football from an overseas competition in the UK. The channel broadcasts each and every LaLiga match, along with more than 25 hours of weekly live studio programming.

LaLiga President Javier Tebas said: “We are excited to be growing our UK presence with Amazon Prime Video, which has quickly become an important name in the world of sport. The UK has a deep love of football and a huge demand for premium live content, which is reflected by the range of broadcast options we are making available to fans.”

Julian Monaghan, Director of Amazon Prime Video Channels EU, said: “We’re delighted to offer UK Prime members access to live matches from the top Spanish football league, including some of the world’s best teams, players and rivalries with the addition of LaLigaTV on Prime Video Channels. LaLigaTV is a great addition to our growing stable of live sport and sports docuseries available on Prime Video and Prime Video Channels, giving customers even more selection to find the sports they’re passionate about.”

The addition of LaLiga complements a growing roster of sports available to watch on Prime Video. Amazon itself holds rights to competitions including the English Premier League, Autumn Nations Cup international Rugby Union and US Open, while subscribers can also access additional channels including Eurosport at an extra cost.

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£6.99 too much for me,and on top of usual Prime membership fee?

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It's £6.99 on Premier Player, which you can cast to an Amazon fire stick and other popular devices.

Seems an odd deal to strike to say we can sell you what you can buy elsewhere for the same price. I suppose it's a welcome move for televisions and games consoles that have Prime Video but not Premier Player.

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Agreed, £6.99 pm to watch Spanish football - far too much, should be included in Prime sub as EPL games are.

I expect Prime will charge extra for EPL games if they get a reasonable take up on this.

Thin end of the wedge.

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Agree. To be honest I rarely watched Spanish football when it was on Sky so wouldn't pay any extra to watch it now.

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BBC secure deal to broadcast Bellator MMA in the UK

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insider...agreement/amp/

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And this is the problem with the way subscription TV is going! Customers complain that their subscription price is too high or expect introductory new customer deals to last forever but then complain when there's no investment made into the product!

The same with sports rights, the provider loses sports rights because they need to cut costs or cannot bid as high due to less subscription income. So someone else picks up the rights and charges a separate subscription. Net, the customer ends up paying more than they did previously to the two companies combined!

The loser is the casual viewer that may choose to dip in and out every now and then but aren't prepared to pay a second subscription.

Sometimes a monopoly isn't a bad thing!

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Agreed, it was a lot better when Sky had all the rights - one sub to pay take it or leave it.

So called competition has just increased the number of subs required to watch all my favourite sports (and the cost)

I don't agree that the casual viewer is the loser - the main losers are those like me who want to watch all/most sporting events

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Yes I agree,much better for us the viewer to have just the one sub to pay for all our sport.

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If Amazon can’t absorb the meagre cost of La Liga into millions of Prime subscriptions they have it’s safe to say this is the beginning of the “sports add on”.

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So much for someone saying it would get cheaper rather then dearer.;)

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You didn't believe him did you:shocked::doh:

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A possible pointer to future EPL rights bidding.

apparently, DAZN are looking to muscle in on the Serie A rights in Italy (currently held by Sky Italia) a the bidding is expected to conclude this week.

DAZN holds the exclusive EPL rights in Canada, Spain and Japan.

2 things interest me, firstly are the Italian rights exclusive in Italy? If so how is that allowed when EU made the EPL become non-exclusives?

Secondly, the article states DAZN is a 'loss-making platform' - does anyone know who owns DAZN?

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Some Russian billionaire and some venture capitalists have been throwing into the money pit that is DAZN to date.

Currently Serie A rights are split between Sky (7) and DAZN (3) matches per week.

In the past, individual home games were sold by clubs (generally to a Silvio Berlusconi owned DTT outfit if I recalled - he also owned AC Milan in addition to his comedy political career) while all games were also carried by a satellite broadcaster. So you had a genuine choice whether to subscribe for them all for buy individual games for most clubs.

The EU remedy ceased to apply from 2013 I think, it just became financially beneficial for the EPL to split the rights.

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There’s speculation that DAZN may make a bid for rights to football premiership rights this week.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/business/i...ier-league-bid

DAZN, the so-called Netflix of sports, is said to be considering throwing its hat into the ring for the next round of Premier League broadcast rights.

The rights for the 2022-2025 seasons are expected to be allocated before May.

According to the Telegraph, the sports streamer is preparing to take on the likes of Sky Sports, BT Sport and Amazon Prime Video to secure rights to some matches.

It’s thought the next round of rights in likely to cost significantly less due to a channel sharing deal between Sky and BT. Because of that, the value of the rights is expected to drop by up to £920 million.

Bidding is expected to end this week.

DAZN already owns exclusive Premier League rights in Spain, Canada and Japan, but has yet to break into the UK football market.

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"The so called Netflix of sports."

By who? Where? They've got no significant market penetration anywhere in the world.

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I think you’ve taken your eye off the ball, so to speak, jfman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAZN

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You do know market penetration is a clearly defined concept?

Not a single reference to subscriber numbers (actual or estimated) in that Wikipedia page.

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The Telegraph is a good source for these types of stories, but I'm pretty sceptical given that economics favour a broadcaster able to cross-subsidise their bid with another service to sell, like broadband or subscription TV.

Plus the situation in France with a new entrant failing to deliver on payments may throw up a few red flags with the seasoned negotiating team at the Premier League.

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I think it's going to continue to be included as part of the Premier Sports bundle, this is just another way of getting it.

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DAZN 2019 Revenue $878 million
Netflix 2019 Revenue $20,100 million

DAZN in 2019 had 4.4% of the revenue of Netflix...

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Maybe they mean they're both in mountains of debt.

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They've called themselves it.

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I think the meaning is that Netflix is the best streaming service for scripted content and DAZN is the best streamer for sport.

I wouldn’t read any more into it than that.

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I didn’t write it, so don’t complain to me.

DAZN has been mooted more than once to be a likely contender to bid for rights to the Premier League.

Whether they will be successful is another matter.

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I notice that in Italy and Germany DAZN seem to carry Eurosport 1 and 2 and NFL Network with one of the countries also carrying MLB network.

The UK DAZN seems to have very little though.

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I didn't write it would have been a worthy reply first time round, not second.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...ostcount=10285

We've been here before with the EPL talking up mythical bids that never come to fruition so forgive me if I take this one with a huge pinch of salt. Straight out the Richard Scudamore playbook in a move that cost him his job last time out when Sky/BT saw through it

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Almost exactly what I posted 2 posts earlier - do you ever read things before posting?

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It’s the only way he doesn’t get universally slated is to piggyback on the credibility of another poster. ;)

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Actually, no, I didn't see your post when I posted this.

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Quelle surprise.

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Seems like the premier league rights come up every year....the years must be flying by. I'd rather everything just stayed as it is but would love UCL and europa league to return to sky sports. Michael Owen....ugh! Superior coverage too!

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A pet hate of mine on the Football channels, is with having the V6 box with multiple channel tuners i want to watch one match whilst recording others i.e. last night watch Barca v Psg,record Leipzig v Liverpool to watch right after without knowing the score of the recorded match,but yet again they put the Liverpool score up on screen to spoil it for me.Surely they must realise if people want to know the scores of other games they will just look them up on their phone.Grrrrr.

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I quite agree, watching Barcelona v PSG recording this morning this happened - even my wife who wasn't really watching shouted out Spoiler Alert.

Why do they think we need to know? I always watch one game then avoid the result of the other but continually getting score updates spoils it for me.

The put different sound tracks on the extra channels - why can't they do the same with versions which will have score updates leaving the main channels free of this curse?