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jfman 10-12-2024 13:17

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36187418)
Well, I suppose the tankies/vatniks have to look for some positives out of this, no matter how tenuous...

There’s nothing positive about giving more dangerous people more reasons to want to bomb us, and more territory from which to plan such actions.

ianch99 11-12-2024 00:03

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36187263)
Seems correct, if Hamas had not attacked, Israel would not have responded. Do you have proof otherwise ?

Of course, you forgot to mention that Hamas "killed innocent men, women & children", funny how you missed that ....

I have mentioned numerous times how Hamas is a terrorist death cult and needs to be removed and condemned its barbaric actions. How many times do you need?

You are also assuming that Israel has not been killing innocent Palestinians before Oct 1st, you are wrong in this assumption.

Paul 11-12-2024 01:05

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36187475)
You are also assuming that Israel has not been killing innocent Palestinians before Oct 1st, you are wrong in this assumption.

You're making it up as you go along.
The only person making assumptions seems to be you.
I have made no mention of what Israel may or may not have done before your arbitary date.

1andrew1 11-12-2024 07:30

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36187425)
There’s nothing positive about giving more dangerous people more reasons to want to bomb us, and more territory from which to plan such actions.

Who are the more dangerous people?

ianch99 11-12-2024 22:43

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36187480)
Who are the more dangerous people?

Depend how you define dangerous? If you measure this by number of people killed by said party, amount and sophistication of weaponry then there is not real contest. Add the willingness to destabilise neighbouring countries through preemptive military actions then there is only one clear winner.

However, if you then start to draw a trajectory of the ruins of the once mainly secular state towards an extreme Islamist one then this opens up a whole new narrative. Of course, the current actions of Israel in bombing the daylights out of the newly liberated Syria will provide a lot of propaganda for the nascent Islamist state actors.

Itshim 12-12-2024 07:39

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36187480)
Who are the more dangerous people?

Israelis.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36187548)
Depend how you define dangerous? If you measure this by number of people killed by said party, amount and sophistication of weaponry then there is not real contest. Add the willingness to destabilise neighbouring countries through preemptive military actions then there is only one clear winner.

However, if you then start to draw a trajectory of the ruins of the once mainly secular state towards an extreme Islamist one then this opens up a whole new narrative. Of course, the current actions of Israel in bombing the daylights out of the newly liberated Syria will provide a lot of propaganda for the nascent Islamist state actors.

This says it all:(

Pierre 12-12-2024 12:15

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36187480)
Who are the more dangerous people?

Remains to be seen.

The Syrian revolutionists are Al Qaida adjacent. which means they're not necessarily going to be friendly with Iran.

But that's a bit like saying I'd rather be killed by a Tiger Shark rather than a Great White.

mrmistoffelees 12-12-2024 12:32

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36187578)
Remains to be seen.

The Syrian revolutionists are Al Qaida adjacent. which means they're not necessarily going to be friendly with Iran.

But that's a bit like saying I'd rather be killed by a Tiger Shark rather than a Great White.

A degree are, not all

jfman 12-12-2024 14:24

Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36187480)
Who are the more dangerous people?

I just meant a greater number. The crosshair on our backs (metaphorically) gets bigger every day the Israeli genocide continues. Giving them free rein over the Syrian territory (that which Israel doesn't annex) once they realise they've been played they'll be ripe for a return to extremism.

1andrew1 12-12-2024 18:23

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Thanks all, some thoughtful responses to my last question. :)

mrmistoffelees 15-12-2024 18:32

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what a surprise…..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6lgln128xo

Paul 15-12-2024 18:36

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Some clue as to what that is without clicking on it ?

spiderplant 15-12-2024 18:42

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36187758)
Some clue as to what that is without clicking on it ?

"Israel plans to expand Golan settlements after fall of Assad"

mrmistoffelees 15-12-2024 18:43

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36187758)
Some clue as to what that is without clicking on it ?

Yeah sorry forgot about that !

‘ Israel's government has approved a plan to encourage the expansion of settlements in the occupied Golan Heights.’

Paul 15-12-2024 18:45

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Hmmm, who would want to live there ? Doesnt seem like it would be very safe.


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