Cable Forum - Unstoppable migration?

I watched a police documentary type show last night on channel 4.

I didnt like how the police were approaching the cases.

One of them was a ex prisoner brought in because he attacked a muslim in jail, basically all he had to do was prove it wasnt racially motivated, it seems the attack itself didnt bother the police, just if it was racially motivated, if it was deemed it was, he was back to prison, in the end he was let go because it was deemed not racially motivated.

Another was a mother and her son who were brought in because they called a muslim racially names.

It seems as if racism is deemed a bigger crime than other crimes for no reason, which I do think is wrong.

Hugh	10-05-2016 22:40

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Like all reality shows, they focus on things that will arouse viewer interest/outrage/sympathy - reality TV shows very rarely reflect reality...

ianch99

10-05-2016 22:44

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35836756)

their as English as fish and chips;)fried fish was introduced into Britain by Jewish refugees from Portugal and Spain.

a.k.a immigrants ..

papa smurf

14-05-2016 16:43

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Shocking figures reveal Germany will have to spend £75BILLION on migrants by 2020

The astronomical figure, which will come out of federal funds, will pay for housing, social welfare benefits and German language course for the 3.6 million refugees it expects to cross its borders by 2020.

Some of the money will be used to help integrate the migrants into society and much will be used to deal with the underlying causes of the refugees influx into the western European country.

Federal Ministry of Finance (BMF) has estimated about 600,000 refugees will enter Germany this year followed by about 400,000 in 2017 and approximately 300,000 each consecutive year.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-migrants-2020

Ramrod

14-05-2016 22:31

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35836746)

What - like Marks* and Spencer, Ikea, Dolce & Gabbana, Zara, Aldi, Lidl, Carluccio's, Primark, Tesco**, Asda***. Bonmarche, Burtons****, Costa Coffee, Starbucks, Pret a Manger, Iceland, TK Maxx, Patisserie Valerie, Netto, Jacques Vert, La Senza, Nike, etc.? ;)
*Marks - Polish Jewish
**Tesco - co is from Jack Cohen, whose father was a Polish Jewish immigrant
*** Asda - part of the US Walmart Group
****Burtons - from Montague Burton, a Lithuanian Jew

No, I suspect that he's talking about names like (as you well know): Sabina Hair & Cosmetics, Manna Afro Carribean Store, Jambo Jumbo Ltd, Esparsh Hair and Beauty Studio, Barkat Halal Meat Shop, Zam Zam Store etc.
You are being deliberately obtuse, Trevor Phillips is making the point that many people in the UK find names like that unsettling.

Hugh	14-05-2016 22:35

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Do you have a link to that research, please?

Ramrod

14-05-2016 22:41

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35837695)

Do you have a link to that research, please?

:confused:

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35836746)

Also, those names and founders are from a Judeo-Christian background. Trevor Phillips, in his documentary, is (obviously) talking about muslim/arabic shop names.

Hugh	14-05-2016 23:00

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35837696)

:confused:

---------- Post added at 22:41 ---------- Previous post was at 22:37 ----------

Also, those names and founders are from a Judeo-Christian background. Trevor Phillips, in his documentary, is (obviously) talking about muslim/arabic shop names.

You originally posted

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Trevor Phillips is making the point (backed up by research) that many people in the UK find names like that unsettling.

I just asked for a link to that research.

Osem	16-05-2016 17:37

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Former MI6 head Richard Dearlove has said Europe faces a "populist uprising" if it is unable to show its citizens it can control the migrant crisis.

He was speaking on the BBC's World on the Move day on migration issues.

Mr Dearlove also warned against offering visa-free travel to Turkish nationals, describing the move as like storing gasoline near a fire.

Earlier, UN special envoy Angelina Jolie Pitt warned the humanitarian system for refugees was breaking down.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36304721

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Mr Dearlove said the numbers of immigrants coming into Europe over the next five years could run into millions. The crisis could reshape the continent's geopolitical landscape, he said.

"If Europe cannot act together to persuade a significant majority of its citizens that it can gain control of its migratory crisis then the EU will find itself at the mercy of a populist uprising, which is already stirring" he added.

He's right, it's quite obvious to those who want to see what's happening. Of course the self righteous great and the good who're wealthy enough to insulate themselves from the problem will do just that. It'll be ordinary people who pay the real price.

Ramrod

17-05-2016 13:09

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35837698)

You originally posted

I just asked for a link to that research.

Nope, sorry, can't be ars*d. Find it yourself. :D
(it's possibly mentioned in his documentary) :)

Osem	21-05-2016 15:16

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For the first time since World War Two, the two parties that have dominated Austrian politics for decades, the Social Democrats and the conservative People's Party, were both knocked out of the race.

A political earthquake had occurred in this small, wealthy central European country.

And there were consequences. Shortly afterwards, the Social Democrat leader, Chancellor Werner Faymann, resigned after a revolt in his party over the failure to stop the Freedom Party, which has been on the rise here for years.

And now the smiling, softly spoken Mr Hofer could be on the verge of becoming the first far-right head of state in the European Union. The run-off vote on Sunday is expected to be close.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36343623

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Political analyst Thomas Hofer (no relation) says the success of the anti-immigrant Freedom Party has much to do with long-term and deep-seated discontent with the political status quo in Austria - fuelled by the migrant crisis.

Ninety-thousand people claimed asylum here last year, equivalent to about 1% of the Austrian population.

Seems like the welcome's reached its limit then. Who'd have thought?... :confused:

Once again we're seeing that it's easy to make short term gestures, not so easy to deal with the long term ramifications.

Hugh	21-05-2016 15:53

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35838076)

Nope, sorry, can't be ars*d. Find it yourself. :D
(it's possibly mentioned in his documentary) :)

Nah, cba - I wasn't the one who said it was backed by research to back my point; if you can't show your workings, you don't get the exam score... ;);)

Osem	21-05-2016 16:48

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Meanwhile our 'secure' borders quietly carry on doing what it says on the tin:

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A group of 28 suspected illegal immigrants discovered hiding in a lorry in Portsmouth have been detained.

Police said the men and women were found by officers in the back of the HGV.

They were given medical treatment by ambulance crews and then taken into custody by Border Force officers on suspicion of being in the UK illegally.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-36350255

Osem	23-05-2016 19:45

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Well it seems Austria has averted a right wing head of state by the narrowest of margins - only 31,000 votes or thereabouts.

The damage is done nevertheless because I have grave doubts that the EU will anything t all to negate the mas migration induced swing towards extremism its own policies have encouraged.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36362505

Instead of seeing this as an extremely close shave and taking heed of the fact, I reckon they'll carry on regardless in denial of the storm which is brewing.

Taf	23-05-2016 20:04

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Just as the 2 main British parties are smearing UKIP at every turn. It's going to bite them in the ass in the future.

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