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If JK Rowling wasn't already well established, would she have been published nowadays?
You have to be able to criticise things, people, groups etc, otherwise you end up with a very distorted and one-sided set of view of those things. If something is factually wrong, then somebody presenting those incorrect things can be proved wrong. As opposed to the current system of "I don't like it, so you're not allowed to say it, no matter how true it is". |
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Indeed. This bill aims to protect people (particularly vulnerable groups) from inappropriate behaviour by others.
As an example, take a look at this thread: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...5#post36121345 Hugh disagreed with my statement that Virgin are again the most complained about company as he believed that it was only partially correct. He did it in a polite and reasonable manner, so his right to disagree with my statement wouldn't be affected by the new legislation. Disagreeing with someone else's point of view (as long as it's done in a right manner, with consideration and in a holistic manner) isn't inappropriate behaviour. Disagreeing with someone's assertion that green is the best colour is fine, but taking the mickey out of them for spelling it wrong when they have declared that they have dyslexia isn't. Disagreeing with everything that they say as a form of harrassment in a gratuitously nasty, snide, sarcastic way (in the same way as has been done countless times) isn't. Mocking someone known to have dementia who says the same thing twice in error isn't. |
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That's what would happen. It's only now that she has her fame is she above this, but an author starting out wouldn't be touched. |
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Continuing to contact or refer to someone who has expressly asked them not to is an offence under the Harrassment Act, be it in person, over the phone, by electronic means or in any other way, be it in public or in private. I imagine that a very dim view indeed would be taken of someone who chose to blatantly disregard the law and then went on to publicly mock it's effectiveness. Referring to a person's known neuro diversity as 'an excuse' and being deliberately disparaging about their attempts to communicate as 'daft' is unlawful under the Equality Act. I'm surprised that he doesn't know this and would proceed to do it as a Mental Health First Aider, you'd think he'd know better. In a real life situation, would an attempt to publicly humiliate someone with a stutter for the way that they speak be acceptable? Likewise, would an attempt to publicly humiliate someone with Touretts Syndrome be referred to as saying 'daft things' following an outburst caused by their tick be made? Probably not (I hope!), but it does go to show that some people still regard those with neuro diversity issues as fair game and it has to stop. |
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Oh, and one last thing. My comment wasn't aimed at you, it was just adding to your list of things you considered to be unacceptable. But I suppose as they say, if the cap fits and all that! |
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Regarding your statement "As opposed to the current system of "I don't like it, so you're not allowed to say it, no matter how true it is" you've not proved this point either. ---------- Post added at 16:48 ---------- Previous post was at 16:42 ---------- Quote:
Publishers are pretty keen on the freedom of publication. Mein Kampf is still published in English, for example. |
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I didn't realise that you had continued to contact me for a further six years, despite being asked not to. Your ridiculous responses truly show that you don't have a clue about the breadth and severity of the widely varying neuro diverse range of conditions and the potential effects of continuing with your remarks, despite being told about them. It concerns me greatly that you appear to genuinely believe that your behaviour is appropriate and acceptable. I suggest that, in order to put this to bed, the best thing for everybody involved is for you to accept an offer of training (arranged in conjunction with your employer. The breaches of the law and of their own diversity policies don't have to be mentioned- the aim is to educate, not punish you), or for you to voluntarily desist with your misinformed and offensive remarks going forward. |
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1. No evidence of books being cancelled. Hachette has not cancelled any of Rowling's books. Some staff may not like them but they're still published. We need to look at what's actually happening as oppose to imagining some kind of scifi world where these things might happen.. 2. Your statement "As opposed to the current system of "I don't like it, so you're not allowed to say it, no matter how true it is." Again, no evidence that this is the current system. If there's a market and funding for content we'll hear it, from Nigel Farage to James O'Brien. ---------- Post added at 19:11 ---------- Previous post was at 19:06 ---------- Quote:
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You have however proved the point we have been making again and again about opinions being subjective, yours does not match mine atm. Quote:
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Perhaps I need to remind you that the only Judge & Jury on CF are the administrators. If you start with your attempts to control and/or threaten other members again, your membership will be suspended. |
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The one common problem in all of this seems to be you and I have a very funny feeling that your disability plays no part in that. |
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What is more sinister is people having to self-censor. That is by its very nature hidden and is impossible to prove. Quote:
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