Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35964518)

For the hard of thinking, to serve as PM or a minister they have to be elected members of parliament, elected by their constituents.

They are not “appointed” to parliament.

EU commissioners are appointed not elected.

You do understand the difference?

Also as opposed to say, the US presidential elections where you vote for an actual individual.

In the UK you vote for a party. The party then decides who their leader is, and therefore who the PM is.

You are also voting on a party manifesto, it shouldn’t really matter who delivers as PM on that manifesto as long as it delivered.

If the party itself decides that the leader is not doing a good job, they can replace him.

So there you have two mechanisms where by you can remove a government or the government can replace a leader.

Which is two more than you get with an EU commissioner

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35964598)

Are you saying that Rees-Mogg made this up? We're in danger of agreeing! :D

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35964619)

I don't know where the 97 years came from. In any case, what he said, according to the Guardian at least, was that it would take 50 years before the full economic benefit was felt.

Between 2020 and 2025, we would be many billions of pounds better off.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-will-pay-off

By 2025

By the mid-2020s, we should see “a post-Brexit dividend of £135bn just between 2020 and 2025, with a further £40bn a year from then on”, according to Rees-Mogg, who was quoting figures from the pro-Brexit group Economists for Free Trade.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35964619)

I don't know where the 97 years came from. In any case, what he said, according to the Guardian at least, was that it would take 50 years before the full economic benefit was felt.

Between 2020 and 2025, we would be many billions of pounds better off.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-will-pay-off

By 2025

By the mid-2020s, we should see “a post-Brexit dividend of £135bn just between 2020 and 2025, with a further £40bn a year from then on”, according to Rees-Mogg, who was quoting figures from the pro-Brexit group Economists for Free Trade.

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35964610)

Less of the patronising tripe please.

You hate the EU, I do not. You will never convince me that leaving the EU based on the agenda of moving to a right wing, low tax, low regulated free market paradise is the right thing to do.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35964619)

I don't know where the 97 years came from. In any case, what he said, according to the Guardian at least, was that it would take 50 years before the full economic benefit was felt.

Between 2020 and 2025, we would be many billions of pounds better off.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-will-pay-off

By 2025

By the mid-2020s, we should see “a post-Brexit dividend of £135bn just between 2020 and 2025, with a further £40bn a year from then on”, according to Rees-Mogg, who was quoting figures from the pro-Brexit group Economists for Free Trade.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35964629)

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35964638)

"For the hard of thinking" was provocative and undermined the quality of debate.

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35964623)

Comedy contradiction OB :)

When you like the predictions, it is going to happen:



but when when you don't, it isn't:

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35964635)

I will assume I am on ignore, but just in case.

The 97 years was the age the poster would be by the time Rees-Mogg's 50 year claim for post Brexit prosperity would be fully felt

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35964610)

Less of the patronising tripe please.

You hate the EU, I do not. You will never convince me that leaving the EU based on the agenda of moving to a right wing, low tax, low regulated free market paradise is the right thing to do.

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35964688)

Seems some Brexiteers would be happy to renege on the NHS bus idea all together. Suggesting letting American firms run NHS hospitals.

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35964700)

British Businesses seem very unprepared for a no deal Brexit. No doubt people will whinge about scare mongering, but many SMEs have little capacity to plan for Brexit and government seem to have their heads in the sand over this.