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heavyside 08-06-2014 08:44

Re: Curzon Home Cinema coming to Tivo in 2014
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35704981)
Curzon's independent on-demand film service which is currently on BT's YouView service mentioned as launching later this year on VM. This is in line with the guidance given on this thread by theone2k10 who said VM's focus would be on on-demand.
"Later this year Curzon’s potential home audience is expected to expand massively when it launches on Virgin Media’s Tivo set-top boxes, which are in more than 2m homes."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...dent-film.html
Service itself: http://www.curzonhomecinema.com/

Some really good films on the Curzon site. Great news if this is coming to TiVo later this year IMO depending on price.

howardmicks 08-06-2014 10:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Yet another chargeable channel,anyone else noticing a pattern here all these new channels vm are acquiring since the takeover are chargeable extras

1andrew1 08-06-2014 11:31

Re: Curzon Home Cinema coming to Tivo in 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35705002)
Some really good films on the Curzon site. Great news if this is coming to TiVo later this year IMO depending on price.

You can see the prices on their website which are quite competitive eg:

In Cinemas Now:
Cheap Thrills £5.99 (member price £5.09) Sky Store £8.99, Virgin £5.99

Older films:
Amour (2012) £1 (member price 85p), Sky Store £2.99, Blinkbox 99p

Some films in cinemas now are pricier but it certainly seems a competitive service overall. For heavy users, if you are able to sign up as a member it is even cheaper per film but that costs £50 per year but does include two free cinema tickets reducing the effective cost to about £25.

I think this service complements its other film offerings very well but won't have mass appeal.

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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35705036)
Yet another chargeable channel,anyone else noticing a pattern here all these new channels vm are acquiring since the takeover are chargeable extras

I think this service is better categorised as fitting into the battle of TV between pay-tv companies and TV manufacturers for consumers' preferred living room device.
TV manufacturers like Samsung already offer a great range on-demand services including Curzon. If VM does not respond, it stands a chance of being bypassed by the consumer who will just use the apps on the TV. It will be interesting to see how Sky responds; does it want a company on its own platform undercutting it on some films?

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35704956)
VM are such a big company taking on giants like Sky or BT Sports. And yet always seem to be the underdog.

In what way is VM the underdog? It has the second-best line up of channels, the fastest broadband and the most popular mobile service compared to its peers. (BT, TT, Sky).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35704956)
We are after certain channels like Atlantic or we have an agreement with Sky regarding HD channels etc - when is that going to happen.

You know the answer to the Atlantic situation which is no time soon on any platform except Sky's. I agree that VM should have given a date for the launch of all Sky Sports channels in HD but I'm sure they have their reasons for it. Afterall, there are good reasons why Tom Mockridge runs VM and not you and me.

Dave42 08-06-2014 11:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Arthur sky would have to do something it never ever done for VM to get SA and that's to lower it price on a channel can you honestly see that happening no chance and if VM paid over the top price sky want it will do that with the rest of channels too that's for certain and you and everyone else will complain when the prices go up

spiderplant 08-06-2014 12:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35705036)
anyone else noticing a pattern here all these new channels vm are acquiring since the takeover are chargeable extras

No, I haven't noticed that at all.

Channels added since the takeover:
BBC 3 HD
BBC 4 HD
BBC News HD
BTSport1
BTSport1HD
BTSport2
BTSport2HD
CBBC HD
CBeebiesHD
Food Network
FOX+
GINX
horror +1
Lamhe
London Live
More 4 HD
MTV HD
MTV MUSIC
Nick HD
Notts TV
Premier Sport
Reality +1
STV Glasgow
Travel Channel

I make that one premium channel (which was free for months), plus BT Sports if you don't take XL

muppetman11 08-06-2014 12:20

Re: Curzon Home Cinema coming to Tivo in 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35705044)
I think this service is better categorised as fitting into the battle of TV between pay-tv companies and TV manufacturers for consumers' preferred living room device.
TV manufacturers like Samsung already offer a great range on-demand services including Curzon. If VM does not respond, it stands a chance of being bypassed by the consumer who will just use the apps on the TV. It will be interesting to see how Sky responds; does it want a company on its own platform undercutting it on some films?

I think Howard is meaning you have to pay extra for all these On Demand services such as Netflix , rumours of Amazon etc rather than improving the inclusive On Demand content part of XL which was once a market leader.

denphone 08-06-2014 12:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
But then again we don't have to pay extra for BT Sports bouquet of channels so people can't have it both ways.

blue666666 08-06-2014 13:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
is it just forcestv launching next week?

howardmicks 08-06-2014 13:21

Re: Curzon Home Cinema coming to Tivo in 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35705071)
I think Howard is meaning you have to pay extra for all these On Demand services such as Netflix , rumours of Amazon etc rather than improving the inclusive On Demand content part of XL which was once a market leader.

That's is what I really meant bud ;)

theone2k10 08-06-2014 14:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35705089)
is it just forcestv launching next week?

Tuesday yes.

Not saying too much ya know as i don't want to create fairy tales ;)

blue666666 08-06-2014 14:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
at lest we know it going to happen and not wait and speculate ��

Dave42 08-06-2014 14:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35705118)
at lest we know it going to happen and not wait and speculate ��

true just we are impatient and want them now :LOL:

Arthurgray50@blu 08-06-2014 16:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2014) Vol. 2
 
I look at it this way. Customers cannot have there cake and eat it for nothing.

IF, There are to be more channels added, then surely VM have the right to put up prices.

I have said before, i would not mind an extra quid or two for extra channels, if needed.

1andrew1 08-06-2014 17:56

Re: Curzon Home Cinema coming to Tivo in 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35705071)
I think Howard is meaning you have to pay extra for all these On Demand services such as Netflix , rumours of Amazon etc rather than improving the inclusive On Demand content part of XL which was once a market leader.

OK, that makes sense but I think Virgin needs to do both. To compete with smart TVs it needs to add more PPV services. To compete with Sky it needs to add more catch-up content.

andy_m 08-06-2014 20:04

Re: Curzon Home Cinema coming to Tivo in 2014
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35705166)
OK, that makes sense but I think Virgin needs to do both. To compete with smart TVs it needs to add more PPV services. To compete with Sky it needs to add more catch-up content.

There's no doubt that where with the delivery technology Virgin should be ahead in terms of on demand, Sky have been particularly clever when negotiating rights. Coupled with improvements in home broadband, Sky's on demand and catch up offering is arguably the better product. It simply isn't enough for Virgin to add ott pay apps to TiVo and think they're doing a good job in this area.


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