Cable Forum - The state benefits system mega-thread.

Everyone knows that the most vulnerable will be hit hardest by the coming cuts and the majority don't care so doesn't really matter anymore to be honest, we'll hear the usual rubbish about "those most in need will be protected" and it will be completely forgotten five seconds after it's said.

denphone

03-06-2015 20:42

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As we know politicians talk with forked tongue.

denphone

04-06-2015 16:07

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35781269)

Sadly the new company doing the assessments are just as bad as the old one Rizzy.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...rebar_facebook

nomadking

04-06-2015 16:28

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35781416)

Sadly the new company doing the assessments are just as bad as the old one Rizzy.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...rebar_facebook

NHS guidance for Parkinson's

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It's important to do what you can to stay physically and mentally healthy if you have Parkinson's disease.
...
Regular exercise is particularly important in helping relieve muscle stiffness, improving your mood and relieving stress. There are many good activities you can do to help keep yourself fit, ranging from more active sports like tennis and cycling, to less strenuous activities such as walking, gardening and yoga.
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denphone

04-06-2015 16:41

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The question is about whether she is fit for work and the answer is no...

nomadking

04-06-2015 17:02

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35781425)

The question is about whether she is fit for work and the answer is no...

And the evidence is.....?
The previous ESA award seems unrelated to any Parkinson's.

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Miss Leek was diagnosed in June 2012 after treatment for a back and neck injury as a result of an accident two years earlier.
“I had X-rays and an MRI scan but I had to keep going back to my doctor because I knew something was not right,” she said.
Miss Leek had to give up her job as assistant manager of the Spar shop on Farndon Road, Newark, because her condition was affecting her work. She had a supermarket job for two months but was released on the grounds of ill-health.

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In August 2012 Julia was told she was eligible for ESA, and underwent her first medical four months later.

You can apply, but it doesn't make you fully eligible at the time. You have to wait for the assessment, which in her case was 4/5 months Later

Michael J Fox was able to continue working.

denphone

04-06-2015 17:14

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The thing is her health has worsened considerably and thus how she can be deemed to be fit for work now is beyond me especially given the first two medicals deemed her unfit for work.

RizzyKing

04-06-2015 17:22

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I've recently been ruled fit for work despite three consultant's, two gp's and two special nurses strongly disagreeing and all have stated they will attend the appeal and give evidence or whatever it is you do in an appeal. My date for the appeal has not been finalised and last I heard the backlog was nearing the two year mark so god knows how long but I'm not criticising it on the net well and truly learnt my lesson there.

nomadking

04-06-2015 17:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35781435)

The thing is her health has worsened considerably and thus how she can be deemed to be fit for work now is beyond me especially given the first two medicals deemed her unfit for work.

The other medicals were related to the neck and back injuries. Those things have probably eased off by now. That will be the reason for the changed decision. She wasn't placed in the support group so it was obvious that she might IMPROVE. There is no mention of current MEDICAL evidence of continuing neck and back problems.

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In August 2012 she was told she was eligible for Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) of £218 a fortnight and attended an interview at Newark Job Centre.

That won't happen if you're in the support group.

MarsBar

04-06-2015 21:27

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35781252)

David Cameron refuses to rule out disability benefit cuts

https://www.politicshome.com/economy....RqeIJ3rR.dpuf

Ah well,at least that will keep the Daily Fail readers happy.

Osem	04-06-2015 22:01

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Why, don't they receive any benefits or services that might be cut?

Arthurgray50@blu

04-06-2015 22:24

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Well, this problem will hit me pretty hard.

My wife had a nasty accident some two months ago. She fell down the stairs and has founf out she has a fracture of one of the vertbrea in her spine.
She has been told that she cannot moved, so has to stay on a hard surface and cannot move about.

She has been told that she is fit to work. Her GP and the hospital has said that she cannot do anything. As one major move will cripple her.

She cannot work any longer - but l am certain that those son of a bitch will say she is fit enough after all the stories that l have heard.

Is the main reason why Cameron wasn't going to tell you what cuts he was going to make. Otherwise he would not have got back in

He makes me sick. There are no need for anymore cuts.

MarsBar

04-06-2015 22:42

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35781494)

Why, don't they receive any benefits or services that might be cut?

I'm pretty sure you know exactly what I mean.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35781500)

Indeed there is,but from greedy bankers but somehow I don't ever see that happening any day soon.
We ALL knew it was coming,this is just the beginning of the end.

Gary L

04-06-2015 23:04

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I'd be really interested to know whether anyone 'moaning' about the cuts actually voted Dave back in.
(not neccessarily people on here)

same with those who are affected or are worried that cuts in aything will affect them financially or whateverly.

are those people really surprised?
were they really expecting not to be affected?
was it all supposed to be just the non working people you thought were going to be hit?

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