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1701-e 04-02-2026 19:18
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36210040)
TNT Winter Olympics 1 & 2 have arrived on 140/141 (527/528) for all viewers
The broadcast on TNT 140 is about 10 seconds behind the BBC broadcast on 991.

Mr K 04-02-2026 20:03
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36210064)
The broadcast on TNT 140 is about 10 seconds behind the BBC broadcast on 991.
Their Ashes cricket coverage was 19 seconds behind the BBCs radio commentary. With streaming this will get worse. There will be a point where sports coverage can no longer claim to be 'live'.

ozsat 04-02-2026 20:05
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
Actually, Sky Sports now do streaming down to less than ten seconds delay. BBC iPlayer has been trialling as well.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36210070)
Their Ashes cricket coverage was 19 seconds behind the BBCs radio commentary. With streaming this will get worse. There will be a point where sports coverage can no longer claim to be 'live'.

Mr K 04-02-2026 20:12
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36210071)
Actually, Sky Sports now do streaming down to less than ten seconds delay. BBC iPlayer has been trialling as well.
Still not 'live' though is it? Radio and freeview are always going to quicker than streaming.

ozsat 04-02-2026 20:27
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Freeview was never live - when you compared it to analogue tv

When you watch football on tv - you often notice the screens in the stadium are not even live

The only place it is truly live - is at the event itself

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36210072)
Still not 'live' though is it? Radio and freeview are always going to quicker than streaming.

Paul 05-02-2026 01:20
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I thought the delay was deliberate, so they could cut out things that should not be broadcast (if necessary) ?

OLD BOY 05-02-2026 11:38
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It’s latency, one of the big problems associated with live streaming. Happily, they’ve been working on this for some time, and the time lag has improved significantly with time.

Dingbat 05-02-2026 16:18
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It’s noticeable that for some reason, the TNT 4K channel on VM is a few seconds ahead of their HD channels when showing the same events

nomadking 05-02-2026 16:35
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36210112)
It’s noticeable that for some reason, the TNT 4K channel on VM is a few seconds ahead of their HD channels when showing the same events
Takes a longer time to encode and compress a 4K picture. Not a simple process. To start with, 4 times the amount of data to process.

Dingbat 05-02-2026 18:05
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36210115)
Takes a longer time to encode and compress a 4K picture. Not a simple process. To start with, 4 times the amount of data to process.
If that’s correct, it suggests they’re adding a delay on the HD.

I’m currently watching USA Vs Czechia women’s Ice Hockey. It’s being shown simultaneously on TNT Sports 2, TNT Sports 4, TNT Sports Ultimate, TNT Winter Olympics 1, and TNT Winter Olympics 2.

spiderplant 05-02-2026 23:52
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36210112)
It’s noticeable that for some reason, the TNT 4K channel on VM is a few seconds ahead of their HD channels when showing the same events
If they are filming in 4K, they then need to downscale that to get the HD version. So it's entirely reasonable that the 4K arrives first.

TMLeafs 06-02-2026 09:15
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Sports betting will become pointless if streaming doesn't improve. You can be a whole minute behind.

They are working on fixing it
https://blog.cloudflare.com/moq/
https://moq.dev/publish/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgcXli8NxHw

SonicMaster 06-02-2026 20:03
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
I'm going out of a limb here, but I'm going to predict Sky Atlantic will finally arrive on Virgin Media on 24th February.

Sky Max will move to 109 when it rebrands to Sky One. This opens up slot 111 on the EPG, which is ideal for Sky Atlantic to sit next to Sky Witness, just like it does on Sky.

Sky Original drama on Sky Atlantic typically gets shown on Virgin Media anyway via Sky Showcase, and as Sky Showcase is closing down, they need a different channel to show it on that's accessible to us.

Without all the newer HBO content, Sky Atlantic is now of considerably less value, so this gives them less justification to withhold it from Virgin Media.

Paul 06-02-2026 20:53
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
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Originally Posted by TMLeafs (Post 36210136)
Sports betting will become pointless if streaming doesn't improve. You can be a whole minute behind.
Not really.
Sometimes I'll bet on a football match.
I also bet on the Grand National every year.
I currently have a bet on the winner of the Superbowl.

Streaming has no effect on any of these.

nomadking 06-02-2026 20:56
Re: Virgin TV (2026)
 
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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36210170)
I'm going out of a limb here, but I'm going to predict Sky Atlantic will finally arrive on Virgin Media on 24th February.

Sky Max will move to 109 when it rebrands to Sky One. This opens up slot 111 on the EPG, which is ideal for Sky Atlantic to sit next to Sky Witness, just like it does on Sky.

Sky Original drama on Sky Atlantic typically gets shown on Virgin Media anyway via Sky Showcase, and as Sky Showcase is closing down, they need a different channel to show it on that's accessible to us.

Without all the newer HBO content, Sky Atlantic is now of considerably less value, so this gives them less justification to withhold it from Virgin Media.
VM would've announced it long before now.


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