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Sephiroth 20-06-2025 12:55
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36198284)
No my approach is to take a balanced perspective and realise that there’s blame at both sides.

Now, would you like to answer the question and continue the discussion ? Or shall I just pick up the rattle and put it back into your pram ?
There are no questions aimed at me. There are questions that you answered.

Irrespective of Israel's heavy toll on Gazan civilians, we are talking about Iran, its nukes programme and Israel's need to defend itself accordingly.

You don't have to like the Israeli regime in order to be objective on this topic.

Paul 20-06-2025 13:36
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36198280)
Ridiculous. Try treating the subject seriously.
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36198282)
Whatever. Your approach is completely warped.
Thats enough, I have warned multiple times about constant digs at other members.
You are adding nothing useful, just ranting out of control, take a 7 day rest from this topic.

mrmistoffelees 20-06-2025 14:41
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36198285)
There are no questions aimed at me. There are questions that you answered.

Irrespective of Israel's heavy toll on Gazan civilians, we are talking about Iran, its nukes programme and Israel's need to defend itself accordingly.

You don't have to like the Israeli regime in order to be objective on this topic.
Defending itself from something that doesn’t exist ? It’s like Iraq all over again

Negotiations were in progress , the Israelis’s decided that for whatever reason they weren’t prepared to wait. They attacked, they also wanted regime change

So, in a nutshell Israel don’t trust their allies in negotiation process but they expect said allies to provide military support ? Or else , they must not like Israel

Itshim 20-06-2025 16:08
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36198289)
Defending itself from something that doesn’t exist ? It’s like Iraq all over again

Negotiations were in progress , the Israelis’s decided that for whatever reason they weren’t prepared to wait. They attacked, they also wanted regime change

So, in a nutshell Israel don’t trust their allies in negotiation process but they expect said allies to provide military support ? Or else , they must not like Israel
Don't blame them. Seem to recall Ukraine being told give nuclear weapons and the west will defend them ,that worked out well. Just think how Israel would deal with the UK boat problem bet it wouldn't last that long.

mrmistoffelees 20-06-2025 16:52
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36198292)
Don't blame them. Seem to recall Ukraine being told give nuclear weapons and the west will defend them ,that worked out well. Just think how Israel would deal with the UK boat problem bet it wouldn't last that long.
I think retrospectively I’d rather have a boat problem than be ok with the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent civilians

Itshim 20-06-2025 19:17
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36198293)
I think retrospectively I’d rather have a boat problem than be ok with the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent civilians
One no one is in danger France, or another country they crossed to get to the channel. Two, at least turn few back and they will soon stop. Tell the French that as soon as they cross the border the boat will be disabled. And pushed back . It's there problem letting them in , in the first place.

Hugh 20-06-2025 19:24
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How would you disable an inflatable boat?

papa smurf 20-06-2025 19:34
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36198298)
How would you disable an inflatable boat?
kick it in the rowlocks :erm:

mrmistoffelees 20-06-2025 19:47
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36198296)
One no one is in danger France, or another country they crossed to get to the channel. Two, at least turn few back and they will soon stop. Tell the French that as soon as they cross the border the boat will be disabled. And pushed back . It's there problem letting them in , in the first place.
1. There’s no such thing as seeking asylum in the first safe country
2. We had an option to return people to France. That option was removed following the result of the referendum.

Paul 20-06-2025 21:37
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36198298)
How would you disable an inflatable boat?
Use a pin ?

Hugh 20-06-2025 21:42
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36198301)
Use a pin ?
That sounds more like "sinking" than "disabling"…

Pierre 20-06-2025 22:40
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36198303)
That sounds more like "sinking" than "disabling"…
Well preventing a boat from being to perform its main function, sure sounds like disabling to me.

Hugh 21-06-2025 15:19
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And what would you do with the boats occupants once you’ve disabled it by sinking it?

Pierre 21-06-2025 15:30
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36198314)
And what would you do with the boats occupants once you’ve disabled it by sinking it?
Well, there’s the genius of using a pin. You can calculate the rate of deflation and advise them they can make it back to France before it sinks, but for every minute they delay, I’m going to put another hole in it.

mrmistoffelees 21-06-2025 15:34
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36198315)
Well, there’s the genius of using a pin. You can calculate the rate of deflation and advise them they can make it back to France before it sinks, but for every minute they delay, I’m going to put another hole in it.
Show us the calculations :p:


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