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Pierre 05-11-2023 18:13
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163397)
Are you stating that all 100,000 protesters were Muslims from the Indian sub-continent and Africa?
They weren’t, that’s even more worrying.

GrimUpNorth 05-11-2023 19:50
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163388)
This thread isn't about the Tories. As you know, I'm seriously disappointed with them. But that has nothing to do with the topic in hand.
But not disappointed enough to acknowledge their culture isn't dangerous. Maybe you need to change the thread title again to something along the lines of 'I hate people who come here on boats, particularly if they are Muslims' because that's all your many comments are saying to me.

Sephiroth 05-11-2023 20:20
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But not disappointed enough to acknowledge their culture isn't dangerous. Maybe you need to change the thread title again to something along the lines of 'I hate people who come here on boats, particularly if they are Muslims' because that's all your many comments are saying to me.

Again, smell the coffee. If several hundreds of thousands of a particular culture are demonstrating in support of the Hamas butchers/murderers, then I would expect you to understand Israel's position and understand how vulnerable we are to those demonstrators and also to the undocumented people arriving on the boats.

You may not like Conservatives, you may not like me, but don't deny what we're sleepwalking into. Not so long before we're all going to have to face East if we don't smell the coffee.

Hugh 05-11-2023 21:02
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163424)

Again, smell the coffee. If several hundreds of thousands of a particular culture are demonstrating in support of the Hamas butchers/murderers, then I would expect you to understand Israel's position and understand how vulnerable we are to those demonstrators and also to the undocumented people arriving on the boats.

You may not like Conservatives, you may not like me, but don't deny what we're sleepwalking into. Not so long before we're all going to have to face East if we don't smell the coffee.
We already do…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orie...e%20west%20end.

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Within church architecture, orientation is an arrangement by which the point of main interest in the interior is towards the east (Latin: oriens). The east end is where the altar is placed, often within an apse. The façade and main entrance are accordingly at the west end.
Would that coffee be made from Arabica beans?

Pierre 05-11-2023 21:46
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36163427)
We already do…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orie...e%20west%20end.

Would that coffee be made from Arabica beans?
Your facetiousness is really tiresome at times. I’d give you a pass if it was humorous, but it isn’t.

1andrew1 05-11-2023 22:05
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163424)

Again, smell the coffee. If several hundreds of thousands of a particular culture are demonstrating in support of the Hamas butchers/murderers, then I would expect you to understand Israel's position and understand how vulnerable we are to those demonstrators and also to the undocumented people arriving on the boats.

You may not like Conservatives, you may not like me, but don't deny what we're sleepwalking into. Not so long before we're all going to have to face East if we don't smell the coffee.
Your hypothesis is flawed as this did not occur. Some bad eggs in the demonstrators, yes. Several hundreds of thousands demonstrating in support of Hamas. Nope. Remember, Palestine ≠ Hamas.

Sephiroth 05-11-2023 22:13
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163430)
Your hypothesis is flawed as this did not occur. Some bad eggs in the demonstrators, yes. Several hundreds of thousands demonstrating in support of Hamas. Nope. Remember, Palestine ≠ Hamas.
I was going by the Socialist Worker's report:

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Where next for the Palestine solidarity movement?

There is an explosive mood to act in solidarity with Palestine. Hundreds of thousands have taken to the streets on four successive Saturdays. And the numbers have grown—150,000 in London on 14 October, 300,000 on 21 October and 500,000 last Saturday.
https://socialistworker.co.uk/palest...cross-britain/

1andrew1 05-11-2023 22:19
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163431)
I was going by the Socialist Worker's report:

https://socialistworker.co.uk/palest...cross-britain/
That article does not support your assertion that they were all demonstrating in favour of Hamas.

Sephiroth 05-11-2023 22:22
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163432)
That article does not support your assertion that they were all demonstrating in favour of Hamas.
Trust you to change focus. It demonstrates my assertion of the numbers. And, going by the reported demonstrations, support for Hamas is obvious.

Why are you arguing like this? More like Hugh or one or two others take as an argument style.

Pierre 05-11-2023 22:23
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163430)
Remember, Palestine ≠ Hamas.
That’s what it should be….I’m less sure now.

And I’ll definitely say that Pro-Palestine in the context of these demonstrations = anti-Jew.


Not ant-Israel but anti-Jew, that’s been very evident, very dangerous and very worrying.

1andrew1 05-11-2023 22:56
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163433)
Trust you to change focus. It demonstrates my assertion of the numbers. And, going by the reported demonstrations, support for Hamas is obvious.

Why are you arguing like this? More like Hugh or one or two others take as an argument style.
No one's disputing the total numbers, just that it's only a minority of the demonstrators who support Hamas.

Hamas may like people talking up its support in the UK.

I don't.

Sephiroth 05-11-2023 23:03
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163436)
No one's disputing the total numbers, just that it's only a minority of the demonstrators who support Hamas.

Hamas may like people talking up its support in the UK.

I don't.
How naive can you be, Andrew?

Why would these demonstrators suddenly come out with 'Free Palestine' banners just after Hamas has murdered 1400+ Israelis in the most brutal manner?

Why aren't they out there shouting "Not in my name".

Andrew?

jfman 05-11-2023 23:48
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163437)
How naive can you be, Andrew?

Why would these demonstrators suddenly come out with 'Free Palestine' banners just after Hamas has murdered 1400+ Israelis in the most brutal manner?

Why aren't they out there shouting "Not in my name".

Andrew?
They’re probably thinking about those brutally “collateral damaged” by the Israelis who are fast approaching 1 bomb dropped per Hamas fighter.

1andrew1 06-11-2023 01:10
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36163437)
How naive can you be, Andrew?

Why would these demonstrators suddenly come out with 'Free Palestine' banners just after Hamas has murdered 1400+ Israelis in the most brutal manner?

Why aren't they out there shouting "Not in my name".

Andrew?
No naivety on my part.

The brutal invasion by Hamas was a month ago. The objective by the protestors seems to be to campaign for a cease fire. I can't see a benefit in their waiting before they advocate for this.

Sephiroth 06-11-2023 08:49
Re: Multiculturalism has a dangerous strand
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36163440)
No naivety on my part.

The brutal invasion by Hamas was a month ago. The objective by the protestors seems to be to campaign for a cease fire. I can't see a benefit in their waiting before they advocate for this.

That's an astonishing statement. Israel needs to smash Hamas. Ceasefires don't achieve that. Of course the protestors want a ceasefire - they also want Israel to be smashed and Hamas to prevail.

You are allowing yourself to be duped.


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