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Damien 07-07-2023 11:54
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36155549)
What I care about is the blind hatred for Farage by many unreasonable people that is then expressed in the bile we see here on the forum.
I don't hate him but I am tired of his attention-seeking antics and cult following. For the record, I don't like many Remainers who make it their entire grift as well, James O'Brien, that Femi guy and that Werido Twitter-obsessed lawyer.

I think they're grifters who use division and anger to make their careers/money by appealing to a base of people who want to make that aspect of their politics their entire life. They're Remainers/Brexiters and they love seeing Remainers/Brexiters 'owned' because they must be up to no good. Boring. Do something else with your life.

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Btw, I don't doubt that Coutts dumped him because of their account thresholds. I also accept that Farage has an escape route to Nat West, which I hope he takes.
And that's all I am saying. He wasn't cancelled, he just isn't as rich these days.

denphone 07-07-2023 11:55
Re: The Bank of Farage
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36155549)

What I care about is the blind hatred for Farage by many unreasonable people that is then expressed in the bile we see here on the forum.

Btw, I don't doubt that Coutts dumped him because of their account thresholds. I also accept that Farage has an escape route to Nat West, which I hope he takes.

But Farage is a decent man and should not be compared with Boris nor vilified to the extent we are seeing.
So because some members have a differing opinion from others its called bile.

Really Sep you are better then that as differing viewpoints is what a forum is about in my view, no matter how unpalatable it might be for some.

Sephiroth 07-07-2023 18:01
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36155551)
So because some members have a differing opinion from others its called bile.

Really Sep you are better then that as differing viewpoints is what a forum is about in my view, no matter how unpalatable it might be for some.
Bile is bile. The blind hatred of Farage that's coming through is pure bile rather than logical argument.

Mr K 07-07-2023 18:04
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36155593)
Bile is bile. The blind hatred of Farage that's coming through is pure bile rather than logical argument.
It's perfectly logical, he keeps lying and being found out.

OLD BOY 07-07-2023 19:03
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It's perfectly logical, he keeps lying and being found out.
I think you’ll find a lot of people disagree with you. But don’t let me spoil your party, however deranged it may be! :rolleyes:

jfman 07-07-2023 20:03
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155599)
I think you’ll find a lot of people disagree with you. But don’t let me spoil your party, however deranged it may be! :rolleyes:
Lying isn’t a matter of opinion. He either does or he doesn’t. You may have the blinkers on but others called this charade as soon as he went public.

ianch99 07-07-2023 20:03
Re: The Bank of Farage
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36155550)
I don't hate him but I am tired of his attention-seeking antics and cult following. For the record, I don't like many Remainers who make it their entire grift as well, James O'Brien, that Femi guy and that Werido Twitter-obsessed lawyer.

I think they're grifters who use division and anger to make their careers/money by appealing to a base of people who want to make that aspect of their politics their entire life. They're Remainers/Brexiters and they love seeing Remainers/Brexiters 'owned' because they must be up to no good. Boring. Do something else with your life.



And that's all I am saying. He wasn't cancelled, he just isn't as rich these days.
Total rubbish. You may be bored by the damage done to this country by these liars but some are not. If you want to allow those who wish to take this country to dark places by complacency then do so but don't expect others to do likewise. They want to hold these people to account.

OLD BOY 07-07-2023 20:08
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36155600)
Lying isn’t a matter of opinion. He either does or he doesn’t. You may have the blinkers on but others called this charade as soon as he went public.
And who determines that, you? You, together with other Boris haters?

I’ve already discovered through another thread that you don’t actually understand what a lie is. To be a lie, it has to be deliberate.

jfman 07-07-2023 20:13
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155605)
And who determines that, you? You, together with other Boris haters?
Whether they lied determines that, it’s nothing to do with me. As I said it’s not a matter of opinion.

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I’ve already discovered through another thread that you don’t actually understand what a lie is. To be a lie, it has to be deliberate.
The ostrich approach makes you look ridiculous, OB. Nobody even mentioned Boris and you’re out foaming at the mouth venting incoherent defences of politicians merely because you agree with them.

OLD BOY 07-07-2023 20:17
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36155607)
Whether they lied determines that, it’s nothing to do with me. As I said it’s not a matter of opinion.

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It is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. If you honestly believe what you are saying, how can it be a lie?

It may be untrue, nieve, etc, but it is not a lie unless you are setting out to deceive.

jfman 07-07-2023 20:22
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155610)
It is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. If you honestly believe what you are saying, how can it be a lie?

It may be untrue, nieve, etc, but it is not a lie unless you are setting out to deceive.
Which he absolutely did when he went public claiming the banking system was out to get him.

Wilfully omitting material facts - like who he banked with and their explanation to him - is lying.

OLD BOY 07-07-2023 20:31
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36155611)
Which he absolutely did when he went public claiming the banking system was out to get him.

Wilfully omitting material facts - like who he banked with and their explanation to him - is lying.
I agree with that. But I don’t believe that he wilfully lied about Brexit.

jfman 07-07-2023 20:32
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155615)
I agree with that. But I don’t believe that he wilfully lied about Brexit.
OB, you claimed to be bored of that thread now you’re starting it here.

It’s specifically his banking shambles for discussion here. No need to dive in head first to defend him every time.

OLD BOY 07-07-2023 20:45
Re: The Bank of Farage
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36155617)
OB, you claimed to be bored of that thread now you’re starting it here.

It’s specifically his banking shambles for discussion here. No need to dive in head first to defend him every time.
Brexit has also been mentioned on this thread, but fair dos, this is about the banking issue.

On that, I agree it looks as if at least he is stretching the truth.

Hopefully, you will also agree to stop changing the subject when responding to posts in a thread. It’s a good discipline.

jfman 07-07-2023 20:52
Re: The Bank of Farage
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36155618)
Brexit has also been mentioned on this thread, but fair dos, this is about the banking issue.

On that, I agree it looks as if at least he is stretching the truth.

Hopefully, you will also agree to stop changing the subject when responding to posts in a thread. It’s a good discipline.
:rofl:

I take you all the way back to my post you quoted. You bring up Boris, you then bring up Brexit, two subjects I’d not mentioned in my post.

You really need to stop being Brexit on the brain and view every event objectively and the evidence on it’s own merit. One single policy, once, doesn’t exempt people from scrutiny.


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