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Hom3r 31-05-2022 19:43

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36123775)
Ross Noble or Alan Davies have never appeared on Mock the Week…

The headline in the Mirror article doesn’t match the body of the text - they prepare material on subjects that may be discussed - that is not "scripted".

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a86335...longevity-bbc/

If it’s scripted, why do they film three hours, then edit it down to 30 minutes?


Having seen many TV shows being filmed (Including QI), the do many retake's to make it broadcastable, and when stuff goes wrong.

TheDaddy 31-05-2022 21:41

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36124118)
91 per cent of UK adults use BBC television, radio or online each week.
https://www.nuj.org.uk/resource-repo...ats-facts.html

Course they do, only 93% of the country even has a TV (which was the question btw, watch not listen or read) their flagship soap gets 2.5 million viewers, you do the maths

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36124058)
Over 2.5 million viewers watch Eastenders. Statistica has the BBC having 55 million viewers over a year but dunno how they work it out


OLD BOY 03-06-2022 19:13

Re: TV licence fee
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36124122)
I agree with some of what you say.

My more fundamental point is that we're the fifth richest country in the world. If people cannot afford to pay for a TV licence then there's something fundamentally wrong with the country.

Whether or not you can afford it is not the conversation. The issue is related to whether you should be forced to pay for a non-essential service that you don’t use.

Jaymoss 03-06-2022 19:34

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124356)
Whether or not you can afford it is not the conversation. The issue is related to whether you should be forced to pay for a non-essential service that you don’t use.

If you do not use it you do not have to pay for it. Getting around the not viewing live TV is easy anyway. Do not pay a sub to the likes of Sky or Virgin do not have a free view/free sat box and do not plug in an aerial in. Then just connect to a laptop or PC and view from that. You may need a VPN in the future as the beeb are investing in tracking kit for those watching online

Sephiroth 03-06-2022 19:34

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124356)
Whether or not you can afford it is not the conversation. The issue is related to whether you should be forced to pay for a non-essential service that you don’t use.

The BBC has morphed into an unwieldly entity which has developed services that meet a variety of minority interests as well as its earlier core programming.

Why do I say "partially"? To me, this is the real debating ground. Should catering for various minorities or cultures by adding new channels be a decision that comes at the BBC's whim when it implies an increase in licence fee? SHould the BBC cater for minorities within the BBC1 / BBC2 constraints?

OLD BOY 03-06-2022 19:52

Re: TV licence fee
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36124358)
The BBC has morphed into an unwieldly entity which has developed services that meet a variety of minority interests as well as its earlier core programming.

Why do I say "partially"?

You didn’t!

Sephiroth 03-06-2022 21:31

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124359)
You didn’t!

You'll never know!

Sephiroth 04-06-2022 16:06

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36124358)
The BBC has morphed into an unwieldly entity which has developed services that meet a variety of minority interests as well as its earlier core programming.

Why do I say "partially"? To me, this is the real debating ground. Should catering for various minorities or cultures by adding new channels be a decision that comes at the BBC's whim when it implies an increase in licence fee? SHould the BBC cater for minorities within the BBC1 / BBC2 constraints?

I alighted on the Bake-Off whatever it is called this morning.

No wonder the BCC need more than £159 for their licence fee; they gratuitously decided that the programme needed 4 hosts, including Mary Berry and that ridiculous Sue Perkins. Jeez, what money wasters.

Hugh 04-06-2022 16:10

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36124386)
I alighted on the Bake-Off whatever it is called this morning.

No wonder the BCC need more than £159 for their licence fee; they gratuitously decided that the programme needed 4 hosts, including Mary Berry and that ridiculous Sue Perkins. Jeez, what money wasters.

It’s been on C4 for the last 5 years…

Sephiroth 04-06-2022 17:23

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36124387)
It’s been on C4 for the last 5 years…

Oh!

heero_yuy 04-06-2022 17:25

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The BBC programme was a pudding for Liz.

Itshim 04-06-2022 17:33

Re: TV licence fee
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36124358)
The BBC has morphed into an unwieldly entity which has developed services that meet a variety of minority interests as well as its earlier core programming.

Why do I say "partially"? To me, this is the real debating ground. Should catering for various minorities or cultures by adding new channels be a decision that comes at the BBC's whim when it implies an increase in licence fee? SHould the BBC cater for minorities within the BBC1 / BBC2 constraints?

However they still need a extra body to tell you it's raining :td:

OLD BOY 04-06-2022 18:24

Re: TV licence fee
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36124357)
If you do not use it you do not have to pay for it. Getting around the not viewing live TV is easy anyway. Do not pay a sub to the likes of Sky or Virgin do not have a free view/free sat box and do not plug in an aerial in. Then just connect to a laptop or PC and view from that. You may need a VPN in the future as the beeb are investing in tracking kit for those watching online

If you use your TV to watch channels other than the BBC, you still have to pay for the licence, like it or not.

I appreciate that there are alleged workarounds, but it shouldn't be necessary to do that.

I acknowledge that at this point in time, a subscription system won't work because anyone can receive a signal free of charge through their aerial. However, there will be no excuse when we go IPTV only, which believe me is the way things are going.

Mr K 04-06-2022 19:08

Re: TV licence fee
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124395)
If you use your TV to watch channels other than the BBC, you still have to pay for the licence, like it or not.

I appreciate that there are alleged workarounds, but it shouldn't be necessary to do that.

I acknowledge that at this point in time, a subscription system won't work because anyone can receive a signal free of charge through their aerial. However, there will be no excuse when we go IPTV only, which believe me is the way things are going.

Tried to watch the England Hungary game streaming, it buffered a lot ( a bit like England's performance tbf).
If we all stream everything thing it will buffer a lot more.

Terrestrial is here for a few decades yet .

Jaymoss 04-06-2022 19:12

Re: TV licence fee
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36124395)
If you use your TV to watch channels other than the BBC, you still have to pay for the licence, like it or not.

I appreciate that there are alleged workarounds, but it shouldn't be necessary to do that.

I acknowledge that at this point in time, a subscription system won't work because anyone can receive a signal free of charge through their aerial. However, there will be no excuse when we go IPTV only, which believe me is the way things are going.

I know the law and I know how to get around it in a few areas. It is very easy to own a TV and even if checked would not appear able to view live channels. At present I can afford it but soon I will not be able to so I won't

TBH most of what I view is downloaded series I watch very little live TV. If I can get rid of the stream box next negotiation in July I may stop paying it


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