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Carth 18-08-2021 04:23
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36090169)
And yet there are still leaders and countries around the World who DO stand to the Islamists.
Name me two . .

noel43 18-08-2021 09:11
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36090148)
9/11 and other attacks originating in Afghanistan, occurred BEFORE the "West" went into the country.
But carried out by Saudis.

1andrew1 18-08-2021 10:18
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36090175)
How's that for a FU, all the blood and money spent and he doesn't even think it appropriate to talk to the people who honoured the alliance with blood, how disrespectful considering it was his country attacked and we all stepped up even though technically iirc the one attacked all attacked rule didn't apply
No Special Relationship then, just more America first. And weren't the 9/11 bombers from the US ally Saudi Arabia anyway?

Pierre 18-08-2021 10:44
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36090132)
Why us Brits calling him Sleepy Joe, a term used by Trump supporters?
because it's accurate?

heero_yuy 18-08-2021 11:27
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Quote from The Sun: Triumphant Taliban leaders are reportedly already offering a safe haven to Al Qaeda as it bids to create a "cradle of jihad".

The revelation made by a Pentagon watchdog report came the day after president Joe Biden claimed the war had ensured Afghanistan could not be used to launch terror attacks.

The US withdrawal and fall of Kabul came just weeks before the 20-year anniversary of the September 11 2001 Al Qaeda attacks that sparked invasion by Western allies the following month.

The objective was to topple the Taliban regime, dislodge Al Qaeda and capture its leader Osama bin Laden - after the jihadis carried out the attacks on New York and Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people.

But now, with the Taliban back in power, a new report claims the terror group again has a safe place in which to plot mass murder.
So after all the effort, expense and lost lives we're right back where it started from.:rolleyes:

Next time we have to take out the vipers nest it should be done with drones, bombs and missiles. Not ground troops.

jfman 18-08-2021 11:29
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There’s an obvious issue there, but the desperation of the Democrats to defeat Sanders that they were willing to push Biden into this position is contemptible.

Trump was an unhinged psychopath, but the fact Biden is better than that and crushed him in the election doesn’t mean you have to back him to the hilt.

Hom3r 18-08-2021 11:44
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I love how Starmer doesn't mention Blair, who took us there in the first place searching for weapons that didn't exist.

1andrew1 18-08-2021 11:47
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36090189)
There’s an obvious issue there, but the desperation of the Democrats to defeat Sanders that they were willing to push Biden into this position is contemptible.

Trump was an unhinged psychopath, but the fact Biden is better than that and crushed him in the election doesn’t mean you have to back him to the hilt.
Also, the "What happens if we withdraw?" argument was not being made effectively in the US. The electorate were tired of the situation and just saw the cost in money and lives. That doesn't excuse Biden's actions though.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36090190)
I love how Starmer doesn't mention Blair, who took us there in the first place searching for weapons that didn't exist.
That particular farce was in Iraq not Afghanistan.

papa smurf 18-08-2021 11:49
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090191)
Also, the "What happens if we withdraw?" argument was not being made effectively in the US. The electorate were tired of the situation and just saw the cost in money and lives. That doesn't excuse Biden's actions though.

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That particular farce was in Iraq not Afghanistan.
EYERACK;)

Hugh 18-08-2021 12:05
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36090185)
because it's accurate?
When was the last time you saw the Donald on a bike? ;)

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36090188)
So after all the effort, expense and lost lives we're right back where it started from.:rolleyes:

Next time we have to take out the vipers nest it should be done with drones, bombs and missiles. Not ground troops.
They were in deep mountain caves and tunnels - unless you use "instant sunshine", none of the above would work.

Hom3r 18-08-2021 12:41
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36090194)
When was the last time you saw the Donald on a bike? ;)

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They were in deep mountain caves and tunnels - unless you use "instant sunshine", none of the above would work.

"Instant Sunshine" wouldn't affect people under a mountain, that why NRAD is under a mountain.

TheDaddy 18-08-2021 12:49
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36090196)
"Instant Sunshine" wouldn't affect people under a mountain, that why NRAD is under a mountain.
They're not under a mountain, they're in a cave, I remember Colin Powell banging on about complex cave systems like they were out of an old bond film complete with mock ups and the reality was they're in a basic damp mouldy cave

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36090190)
I love how Starmer doesn't mention Blair, who took us there in the first place searching for weapons that didn't exist.
Yeah wonder why he or even bozo didn't mention that...

heero_yuy 18-08-2021 14:25
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
When the Americans were fighting the Japanese holed up in caves in the Pacific, they didn't try to go into the caves, they just sealed the entrances up with explosives.

I would have thought these days with long range drone, spy plane and satellite surveillance it wouldn't be that difficult to see which caves are being used and then use guided bombs and missiles to seal them up.

1andrew1 18-08-2021 14:32
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36090210)
When the Americans were fighting the Japanese holed up in caves in the Pacific, they didn't try to go into the caves, they just sealed the entrances up with explosives.

I would have thought these days with long range drone, spy plane and satellite surveillance it wouldn't be that difficult to see which caves are being used and then use guided bombs and missiles to seal them up.
I think the track record of super powers in Afghanistan indicates things are not quite this simple.

papa smurf 18-08-2021 15:28
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From what i've seen on the telly,a good bombing with soap would sort them out


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