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1andrew1 05-11-2017 16:07

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35923374)
To be fair and unbiased there other MPs on the other side who are doing the same..But beware if the female MPs of all parties decide to band together and insist on a system that will investigate and uphold or dismiss each case on the evidence.

A poster on the Order-Order website says that the only Conservative MPs under investigation are Brexiters. Whether this is true or not I don't know but it's another way of splitting the cake be it male-female, Labour-Conservative etc.

Osem 05-11-2017 16:20

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35923374)
To be fair and unbiased there other MPs on the other side who are doing the same..But beware if the female MPs of all parties decide to band together and insist on a system that will investigate and uphold or dismiss each case on the evidence.

But Labour are supposed to be better aren't they? The party of respect and all that...

As regards the female contingent, I dare say they'll want to be sure that all of them are squeaky clean first because what goes around eventually comes around.

nashville 05-11-2017 16:23

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
There will be more shortly. SNP now has two mentioned today

Osem 05-11-2017 16:28

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
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Originally Posted by nashville (Post 35923380)
There will be more shortly. SNP now has two mentioned today

A whole can of juicy worms has been opened and the media is feasting on the contents.

How long before we start getting a few senior media personnel implicated I wonder. Just think of all those Christmas parties during which important people, male and female, have got drunk and let their hands, lips and other things stray...

heero_yuy 05-11-2017 17:55

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35923382)
A whole can of juicy worms has been opened and the media is feasting on the contents.

How long before we start getting a few senior media personnel implicated I wonder. Just think of all those Christmas parties during which important people, male and female, have got drunk and let their hands, lips and other things stray...

Yep. This one is going to run and run. Especially historical stuff that today is frowned upon that at the time was just "a bit of fun"

Of course one has to ask the question of members: Is there nothing in your past that could be considered as harassment by today's standards?

OLD BOY 05-11-2017 19:03

Re: Labour MP's homophobic & sexist remarks
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35922386)
Yes because they all too often have the required power, money, influence and opportunity.

I know this is all being portrayed as someone a uniquely male v female issue but I've heard plenty of stories about the abuse of men in predominantly female workplaces which goes to prove that neither sex has the monopoly on this sort of thing. As more men start to learn about the abuse others have suffered they're going to start speaking up and we're going to see that what's at the bottom of most of this is not the sex of the perpetrators and victims, it's their relative positions of opportunity and power.

Many men never speak about this sort of thing at the time but that doesn't mean they haven't been victims too. Way back when I was groped by a couple of girls in a bar who walked past me and one after the other quickly grabbed my crotch. I was stunned and would never have thought to complain to anyone - they'd have laughed at me after all - but it was a sexual assault nonetheless and if I were to 'return the favour' now I'd be arrested quick smart.

That's right, and it is refreshing to read someone recounting such an experience and not claiming that it has totally ruined their life, self confidence, etc.

Serious sexual assaults such as rape are one thing but complaints that 'he once brushed my knee' (but it might have just been the tablecloth) are pathetic.

Never mind the university students who cannot bear to hear anything remotely unsettling to their sensibilities, we are rapidly becoming a snowflake nation.

denphone 05-11-2017 21:03

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
More MPs caught up in sexual harassment scandal.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...er-allegations

Gary L 05-11-2017 22:30

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
Have they got anything on Dave?

I'd guess it would be from a male if there is.

heero_yuy 06-11-2017 09:45

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35923437)
Have they got anything on Dave?

I'd guess it would be from a male if there is.

There was the pigs head... Maybe it was a boar. :D

OLD BOY 06-11-2017 13:59

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35923463)
There was the pigs head... Maybe it was a boar. :D

The whole thing is a bore, if you ask me!

Osem 07-11-2017 13:19

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
Far too early to say what's happened here:

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Welsh Labour's Carl Sargeant, who faced party investigation into allegations about his personal conduct, dies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161

Whatever the facts turn out to be you have to feel sorry for his family and loved ones.

heero_yuy 07-11-2017 14:40

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
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THE Lib Dems have been accused of covering up a rape allegation as the party was dragged into the Westminster sleaze scandal.

The party was said to have taken six months to suspend a man accused of raping a teenager at last year’s conference.

His alleged victim was one of four women who claimed they were harassed by the same man.

She claimed no action was taken for months until last week when her friend “kicked up a fuss”.

Yesterday, she also accused the party of “victim shaming” because “they give victims no support, they’re just tossed about”.
Source

They just cannot resist getting their noses into it. :D

papa smurf 07-11-2017 14:52

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
wow Westminster is full of alligators at the moment

Osem 07-11-2017 15:00

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
Well it seems Welsh Labour MP Carl Sargeant committed suicide.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161

papa smurf 07-11-2017 15:27

Re: Westminster Sexual Allegations
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35923629)
Well it seems Welsh Labour MP Carl Sargeant committed suicide.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-41904161

wow that's drastic


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