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Mad Max 09-05-2016 19:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35836534)
Due to circumstances beyond our control the next thread will launch in late December and will be called "Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)".


What exactly does this mean? Surely you will have a new thread round about that time anyway, as another new year will be on the horizon, also what do you mean by "circumstances beyond our control"? :confused:

andrewstevenson 09-05-2016 19:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35836544)
What exactly does this mean? Surely you will have a new thread round about that time anyway, as another new year will be on the horizon, also what do you mean by "circumstances beyond our control"? :confused:

Maybe there won't be enough really happening at virgin media that needs mentioned

passingbat 09-05-2016 19:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35836517)
More people are now streaming as opposed to buying DVD's.

In the short term you might be able to get a bargain, but as you say it will take things more difficult in the long term.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201605074...#axzz48B4le1hv

I like streaming services; I guess I'm one of the people behind their growth :) using Amazon, Netflix and Now TV, and having a minimal pay TV service (M+).

The main downside is that a particular TV series is available on their service for a limited time. Longevity wise, Netflix, followed by Amazon are the best; Now TV is terrible, having box sets, in most cases, for a very limited time.

To be fair, there are very few TV shows that I want to add as a permanent fixture to my library; My DVD purchases have dropped drastically since Netflix launched in early 2012. Still, for the odd few that I do buy, I still think the 'to own' digital streaming prices are too high, and should decrease over time.

I have a feeling that at one time, the prices were set by the content rights holder for digital downloads, and they are the same price across all vendors. That is not the case with physical DVDs. I'm not sure if that was the case, and if it was, does it apply now?

1andrew1 10-05-2016 00:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35836549)
I have a feeling that at one time, the prices were set by the content rights holder for digital downloads, and they are the same price across all vendors. That is not the case with physical DVDs. I'm not sure if that was the case, and if it was, does it apply now?

That would be illegal; since 1964 retailers are free to sell at a price they see fit.

Horizon 10-05-2016 07:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35836502)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media UK testing new broadcasting streams.

Media Boy Sources has told us today:



No new channels are testing on them yet but new stream are testing.]

No new streams in my area yet, still on the 48 and its been that way since the last upgrade just before the London Olympics in 2012. But if these upgrades are nationwide, then yes, that is a very significant upgrade.

OLD BOY 10-05-2016 07:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35836609)
No new streams in my area yet, still on the 48 and its been that way since the last upgrade just before the London Olympics in 2012. But if these upgrades are nationwide, then yes, that is a very significant upgrade.

Do you know what the further 10 streams would equate to in terms of the number of channels, or apps, Horizon?

Horizon 10-05-2016 08:08

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Several new HD channels can be fitted onto one stream if using the newer compression method, but I'm guessing most of this will be used for the broadband speed upgrades.

---------- Post added at 08:08 ---------- Previous post was at 08:01 ----------

According to my records the last upgrade to 48 transport streams was not in 2012 as I stated earlier but in July 2010. So, if this upgrade is true, it will be the first major new network capacity boost in nearly six years.

In terms of channels:

Up to July 2010 there was 36 transport streams carrying 316 services (mostly tv channels) in my area. There has only been 2 upload channels/streams for as long as I can remember.

In July 2010 the network was upgraded to 48 transport streams carrying 342 services at that time.

By the time of the LOndon Olympics in 2012, the number of services increased to 406 and in March 2015 the number of services increased to 455.

Today, the number of services on my standard box is 439 in my area (East London). The number of services can vary between area and stb used.

As well as tv channels, services can include VOD (video on demand) streams, EPG data etc.

Of the 48 transport streams in my area, 8 of them are for downloads and 2 are for uploads, according to my router.

andrewstevenson 10-05-2016 08:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35836613)
Several new HD channels can be fitted onto one stream if using the newer compression method, but I'm guessing most of this will be used for the broadband speed upgrades.

---------- Post added at 08:08 ---------- Previous post was at 08:01 ----------

According to my records the last upgrade to 48 transport streams was not in 2012 as I stated earlier but in July 2010. So, if this upgrade is true, it will be the first major new network capacity boost in nearly six years.

In terms of channels:

Up to July 2010 there was 36 transport streams carrying 316 services (mostly tv channels) in my area.

In July 2010 the network was upgraded to 48 transport streams carrying 342 services at that time.

By the time of the LOndon Olympics in 2012, the number of services increased to 406 and in March 2015 the number of services increased to 455.

Today, the number of services on my standard box is 439 in my area (East London). The number of services can vary between area and stb used.

As well as tv channels, services can include VOD (video on demand) streams, EPG data etc.

Maybe this is needed for the software upgrade

Horizon 10-05-2016 08:56

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.... this is capacity VM have added for more broadband upgrades and/or channel additions.

THe software would only use a fraction of one stream.

pengedragon 10-05-2016 08:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35836534)
Due to circumstances beyond our control the next thread will launch in late December and will be called "Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)".

must be more to this, slightly mysterious post

andrewstevenson 10-05-2016 09:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35836623)
must be more to this, slightly mysterious post

Maybe the new forum is coming when the new TiVo launches, I think further broadband speed upgrades not needed the now, we need more channels

OLD BOY 10-05-2016 09:58

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Virgin Media have said that they will be putting more effort into the TV side of things this year, but although there are still some gaps in our channel selection, I think the concentration will be on VOD rather than TV channels. However, I think VM viewers would prefer a mixture of the two in some abundance this year!

andrewstevenson 10-05-2016 10:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35836635)
Virgin Media have said that they will be putting more effort into the TV side of things this year, but although there are still some gaps in our channel selection, I think the concentration will be on VOD rather than TV channels. However, I think VM viewers would prefer a mixture of the two in some abundance this year!

I totally Agree it's nice to have a mixture and on the old TiVo tv channels are better than VOD

trickytree 10-05-2016 11:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35836534)
Due to circumstances beyond our control the next thread will launch in late December and will be called "Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)".

People are speculating on this but so what?
Media Boy brings us information but how it's brought doesn't really matter does it?
This thread we are in now could run forever as long as the information in it is changing. Ultimately it's just a thread title or am I missing something???

DaMac 10-05-2016 12:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2
 
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Originally Posted by trickytree (Post 35836651)
People are speculating on this but so what?
Media Boy brings us information but how it's brought doesn't really matter does it?
This thread we are in now could run forever as long as the information in it is changing. Ultimately it's just a thread title or am I missing something???

I think he may be saying that there won't be anything new of note coming this year, that is how I interpreted it.


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